Saturday December 10, 2016
Manchester Arena (formerly M.E.N Arena)
Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom
Commission: British Boxing Board of Control
Promoter: Eddie Hearn (Matchroom Boxing), Tom Loeffler (K2 Promotions)
TV: Showtime Boxing (sry about title)
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Fury is.., I mean was the best heavyweight after he beat Wladimir....I think most of us have been really underestimating him. If he didn't have his problems with depression and drugs I'd bet on him to be the undisputed heavyweight champ for a long, long time.
I think he will return and rule like you say.
This is more about politics imo, smoke and mirriors.
In reality this does wonders for his legacy because it puts him in a position to fight guys who might otherwise avoid him and he will rack more title winning fights winning them all over again.
AJ is wasting his time and talent with an opponent like Molina.
He should fight only the top opponents like Haye, Klitschko, wilder, Parker, Povetkin and, when he comes back, Tyson Fury.
None of whom were available. Whatever you think about him, the man gets the business done, whichever can gets put in front of him. Only way it's not Klitchko next is if Wlad runs away.
Nah I think you need to watch it again, we can agree to disagree on it but up until the KO right hand Wilder looked terrible.... I honestly cringed at some of the right hands he missed, especially some of the counters he attempted off the ropes.
Wilder is a terrible boxer with athletic gifts, that's the best way I can put it.
Looking bad is different than losing rounds. I didn't say he looked great I said he was winning the rounds especially as the fight wore on. Wilder is not poetry in motion for the most part. He found the counter in the end which was poetry in motion~
That fight doesn't mean anything either because Szpilka is left handed and fights nothing like Joshua.
He is a great athlete, and he is not a textbook boxer but he can still be very effective and difficult to deal with because of his non-textbook style. Joshua may very well beat him though, I just think it is much more dangerous for Joshua than you believe.
He's extremely difficult to beat in my opinion.
To the untrained eye he might not seem much as he doesn't look spectacular. But the way he negated Klitschko's game and offset everything he does for 12 rounds was masterful. His ring IQ is very, very high i think.
Completely agree with you.
Nah I think you need to watch it again, we can agree to disagree on it but up until the KO right hand Wilder looked terrible.... I honestly cringed at some of the right hands he missed, especially some of the counters he attempted off the ropes.
Wilder is a terrible boxer with athletic gifts, that's the best way I can put it.
I think Szpilka would make most guys look bad if he fought with that kind of movement.
Another farce of a fight to be honest.
Im kind of unsure Aj is ready for Wlad considering how poor his previous fights have been due to terrible opponents..
He's extremely difficult to beat in my opinion.
To the untrained eye he might not seem much as he doesn't look spectacular. But the way he negated Klitschko's game and offset everything he does for 12 rounds was masterful. His ring IQ is very, very high i think.
I would say Fury is difficult to look good against and impossible to be perfect against. Wlad has this whole thing where he tries to be perfect, those opportunities aren't going to be there against a guy like Fury so you have to take some 50/50 opportunities which Wlad just doesn't do.
Guys that are willing to take those 50/50's will be rewarded and have a chance to force Fury out or really pen him in. A guy like Joshua will take those chances and probably more.
Fury played Wlad like a Stradivarius though no denying that. while his style is universally difficult I don't know that it wins against a guy really willing to bring the fight to him.
I hesitate to give Fury praise but I believe he's the best heavyweight today.....I can't believe I'm saying that, but he's way better than people realize. It's starting to seem that he doesn't have the mentality to be top level fighter for a long time....Depression, coke addiction, etc....If he was mentally stable he'd be a difficult champ to beat.
He's extremely difficult to beat in my opinion.
To the untrained eye he might not seem much as he doesn't look spectacular. But the way he negated Klitschko's game and offset everything he does for 12 rounds was masterful. His ring IQ is very, very high i think.
Fury stops both inside 5.
Fury will take the winner's head off.
Fury is.., I mean was the best heavyweight after he beat Wladimir....I think most of us have been really underestimating him. If he didn't have his problems with depression and drugs I'd bet on him to be the undisputed heavyweight champ for a long, long time.
it was a joke from the presser this week. Haha.
Anyway, Szpilka clearly bothered Wilder and won his fair share of rounds. That's undeniable.
Wilder looked absolute dogcrap in that fight
I wasn't up on those pressers, I only know there was a dust up.
Szpilka did cause Wilder problems no doubt, I think people overstate how many rounds he won but he did win some. Certainly not Wilder's best night but Szpilka came to fight that night, sadly Szpilka will probably never be the same because the guy that showed up that night wasn't half bad.
Fury can't take anyone's head off, he can't punch.
Wlad is a harder fight for Joshua than Fury would be.
I don't agree with that second part. Now assuming the best Fury can show up again (big IF mind you) I think his boxing style can throw Joshua off his game. Joshua will be aggressive so he might just walk though Fury and not deal with his BS.
I think Wlad is a real simple fight for Joshua though because Wlad is a very straight forward fight and he is going jab, grab basically letting Joshua attack. Getting aggressive with Wlad has always been something that causes him issues and with that size and reach Wlad's normal methods of defusing (range and mauling) will not work meaning he will be in danger constantly. At this stage I don;t think Wlad has what it takes.
Szpilka landing none of the best punches in that fight and landed very little so no he was not winning. He was making things difficult for Wilder with movement but he provided very little offense and Wilder tagged him many times. Watch that fight again.
Joshua might win because Wilder main advantages don't exist, he can normally stay out of danger because he outranges guys, but Joshua has similar dimensions. So Wilder will always be in danger, the same applies to Joshua though. wilder is awkward and has a funky style but he is not terrible, I think you underestimate him greatly.
Nah I think you need to watch it again, we can agree to disagree on it but up until the KO right hand Wilder looked terrible.... I honestly cringed at some of the right hands he missed, especially some of the counters he attempted off the ropes.
Wilder is a terrible boxer with athletic gifts, that's the best way I can put it.
Why because I have a different opinion on thing? Real strong take cupcake~
it was a joke from the presser this week. Haha.
Anyway, Szpilka clearly bothered Wilder and won his fair share of rounds. That's undeniable.
Wilder looked absolute dogcrap in that fight
lol I missed it.
Went to the store when AJ was walking out confident this was going the distance if AJ didn't stop him in the mid rounds. Disappointed.
Trust me...you didn't miss a thing.
Broooo Broooooo Spzilka was winning that fight!! .... he was outboxing Wilder and making him look downright amateurish at times. Wilder was flailing around and missing most of the night.
I've always said Joshua would destroy Wilder, not because I think Joshua is the GOAT or anything but Wilder is wild and lacks a lot of basic fundamentals to go along with a suspect chin. Wilder won't have the height and reach over AJ the way he's had over other opponents allowing to get away with some pretty terrible boxing.
Szpilka landing none of the best punches in that fight and landed very little so no he was not winning. He was making things difficult for Wilder with movement but he provided very little offense and Wilder tagged him many times. Watch that fight again.
Joshua might win because Wilder main advantages don't exist, he can normally stay out of danger because he outranges guys, but Joshua has similar dimensions. So Wilder will always be in danger, the same applies to Joshua though. wilder is awkward and has a funky style but he is not terrible, I think you underestimate him greatly.
AJ v Wlad will be huge but people would be much more excited if Fury hadn't beat him.
I hesitate to give Fury praise but I believe he's the best heavyweight today.....I can't believe I'm saying that, but he's way better than people realize. It's starting to seem that he doesn't have the mentality to be top level fighter for a long time....Depression, coke addiction, etc....If he was mentally stable he'd be a difficult champ to beat.
Fury stops both inside 5.
Fury will take the winner's head off.
Fury can't take anyone's head off, he can't punch.
Wlad is a harder fight for Joshua than Fury would be.
Wilder beat Molina up, it is not like that fight was close at all. Szpilka didn't do anything in that fight either, he was not winning most of the rounds that is a total myth.
Wilder is not near as bad as you make out and these fights do very little to tell me who would win between those men, which is what I am saying. Joshua might very well win and it could be quick, in fact that fight likely ends early one way or the other but it doesn't mean it would be easy for either guy.
Broooo Broooooo Spzilka was winning that fight!! .... he was outboxing Wilder and making him look downright amateurish at times. Wilder was flailing around and missing most of the night.
I've always said Joshua would destroy Wilder, not because I think Joshua is the GOAT or anything but Wilder is wild and lacks a lot of basic fundamentals to go along with a suspect chin. Wilder won't have the height and reach over AJ the way he's had over other opponents allowing him to get away with some pretty terrible boxing.