If Garcia beats Thurman will he take his rightful place among top 10 p4p in the sport

****ing abso ****ing lutely :hail: that's why it was hilarious when people were calling him a cherrypicker, yet he has fought better opposition than 90% of active fighters....if he is a cherry picker, they all are.

I post in mostly non race baiting threads and give my opinion on that subject. But 99.9999999% of those none race baiting thread you were not the thread starter. I finally came across a thread that you made that wasn't race baiting and gave my opinion and guess what. We agreed. Go figure huh When I post in race baiting thread it's to bash and call out the thread starter. But see when you don't race bait we agree on things in the boxing game. ...dude there is no finally to it.....go through my thread history and look for yourself stop trying so hard to troll....you're not very good at it proof is in the pudding and if those type of threads are the only ones you notice, that's not my problem I couldn't care less about agreeing with anyone and last time I checked, its not a requirement to read, and post in threads, especially when the title is based on a topic you don't like....duh dude

absolutely. he'd be an undefeated, 2 division unified champion. i've seen frampton, lara, and bradley on people's lists....

P4P is pretty competitive right now so no. His best wins wouldnt cut it even if he were to miraculously beat thurman. Swift's best wins are Khan and Matthysse and assuming he pulls it off, Thurman. Khan crumbles every time someone touches his chin. Matthysse proved to be a never was. Top 10 based on resume and skills. 1. Chocolatito: The hate this guy gets from some is ridiculous. Power, volume, intelligent pressure, punch placement, timing, footwork, combinations, stamina, chin, durability. That and names like Gallo, Cuadras, Viloria, Arroyo. Enough said. 2. Kovalev: I have eyes and i know what happened in the Ward fight. Plus Pascal, Hopkins, and Chilemba. The guy has scary power, one of the best jabs, and superior skills than a guy like Ward. 3. Ward: Super 6 plus losing 8-4 to Kovalev are accomplishments. His style is ugly but gets results 4. Lomachenko: Scalps like Walters and Gary Russell, and the manner in which he beat them is amazing. Skills, jab, footwork, angles, underrated power, speed. 5. Pacquiao: Vargas fight showed his still has some in the tank. Plus the rest of his resume. 6. Rigondeaux: The style is ugly plus he has the power to break your jaw. Donaire got schooled and all other comers, and champions have fled after that. 7. Crawford: Postol dominated Matt (something Danny couldnt) but had nothing to offer an animal like Bud. Dude is a killer and would push Garcia's ***** in. 8. Canelo: Beat Cotto and Lara (though that one could have gone either way). Those 2 are better than anything Swift has done. Canelo has great skills, he just gets hate because he is prolonging his execution like a coward. 9. Lara: Close one with Canelo and and dominated Trout (something Cotto and Canelo failed at). And we all know how he beat Williams. 10. Bradley: Bradley's resume eclipses Swifts and he beats Swift comfortably even now.

Yeah if he wins in clear dominant fashion, then yeah.. not a lock but should be considered, and not anything to ***** about if someone has them on their list.. some will still remember the Herrera, Peterson, etc fights and still question him, but the guy is a proven winner and that's all that really matters

Well dude if you didn't make so many race baiting threads I guarantee you and I would prolly agree more. Guess you didn't take the time to see who started the thread....I did lol

Well dude if you didn't make so many race baiting threads I guarantee you and I would prolly agree more. If you actually posted in threads without a premise regarding race, you'd see I have posted threads about various fighters and topics....just saying

Of course he would be but that goes for Thurman too. If he wins I think he rightfully is a top 10 P4Per. I agree with you on that

So why is Crawford ranked so highly. Bad example to use for this argument. You should have asked why GGG is ranked so highly, as his resume has a lot of solid names, but no really good ones. I agree that you shouldn't just go by the eye test - if a dude looks spectacular, but has no stellar competition on his resume. GGG is really my exception to this rule, as it is a bit of faith to rank him so highly with only solid fighters (but not really good fighters) on his resume. I do think DSG is shortchanged bc he doesn't always look great. But he gets the wins. I had him as high as ~#8 p4p, before he started the PBC crapfest stage of his career. But this argument may be moot by Saturday. If he wins I don't see how anyone can deny him a top 10 p4p spot. If he loses, maybe he didn't really belong.

So why is Crawford ranked so highly. .....he has fought world class opposition n dominated them....2 division champ too bro

so if a guy looks like the next Leonard but has no wins over elite competition, he should be considered p4p because of the way he dominates? no you are only as good as your opposition and the only way to know how good a fighter is, is based off how they deal with a variety of styles and success at the top level the only people i ever see minimize the importance of resume and level of opposition are fans who are big on fighters with thin resumes...yes it matters when Mayweather was considered p4p 1-3 he had one if not the best resume in boxing In Jones' era pre-2003 he was considered p4p, had one of the best resumes and completely embarassed world class guys and world champion.....he had wins over 17 world champs at the time yet "jones aint fight nobody doe".....Pernell whitaker was considered the best of his era....had the best resume too.....the list goes on and on.....who they fight matters everyone has a style preference but to dismiss level of competition is foolish So why is Crawford ranked so highly.

Fighting a bunch of nobodies has also hurt DSG. Like I said, I had him like at #8 at some point - and then he went into PBC showcase mode, and other dudes overtook him. We'll find out this weekend if he truly deserves p4p status

Danny Garcia has the best resume of any fighter under the age of 30 he is not pretty, doesnt score a lot of knockouts, but gets the job done I have a ton of respect for him. Yes he has won some close fights, like herrera and Peterson but he also has dealt with a variety of styles which will reflect not having shut out performances Danny hasnt been protected in his career so calling the guy a cherrypicker is a huge disservice to him. he has been in their with more world champions than more lauded fighters like Terrance crawford, Loma, GGG, KOv and Ward. Thurman is undefeated and holds a major title....once again dANNY will be the underdog....if he beats thurman, he pushes someone out of the pound for pound and takes his rightful place I agree with a lot of what you said. I have had him as high as #8 or #9 p4p, and I also feel that he gets shortchanged because he doesn't always pass the "look" test. But he gets the job done. And bc he had a close fight w Herrera, we get a lot of revisionist history, saying he's gotten a lot of gifts. The Herrera fight was the closes IMO, and I had Garcia barely winning. Other fights were competitive (Matthysee, LPete), but I had Garcia clearly winning. If he beats Thurman, he probably goes up to like #5 or #6 in my p4p, or even higher if its a great performance. HOWEVER, I favor Thurman. It should be a competitive fight, and I think either dude can hurt the other, but I think Thurman may be just a bit better, and the size may make a difference.

http://i.imgur.com/cqob0Cg.gif Danny has no skills -- forget his marvelous resume. Alot of these fighters on the P4P looking good vs. average competition but who they beat? Why they hatin on 'Swift'? going to be unified been lineal @140! and he stays gunning for the best -- I never seen sh*t like this!

This^^^^ but I think it's debatable just because of the emergence of guys like loma, crawford, frampton, canelo But if he cleanly beats thurman in convincing fashion, then I think he is a lock All of those guys are in my top 10 as well. Gonzalez Ward Kovalev Pacquiao Crawford Canelo Frampton Loma Rigo Garcia

He's got a strong case to already be there. This^^^^ but I think it's debatable just because of the emergence of guys like loma, crawford, frampton, canelo But if he cleanly beats thurman in convincing fashion, then I think he is a lock

He's got a strong case to already be there.

I think this is a fight Thurman will really showcase. So yea I agree he deserves to be p4p if he pulls off this miracle

The winner should be considered for top ten but I can't see a scenario where Garcia beats Thurman.

and you start blabbering about ggg, you are actually gay for him arnt u? you struggle to post without mentioning him. and for that reason you're going back on the ignore list where you belong. cry me a river baby boy ..then go on to trash trash more accomplished fighters resumes substance>style....cant be butthurt your entire life