So some say in the last half of the fight that Kovalev "Clearly" held more and instigated the majority of the clinches so I have looked into this fight and counted clinches instigated by each fighter.
Also before handing out the result I would like to say ducking your head very low and lunging in is what I'd say is something that is pretty much instigating the movement so with that said here are the results.
Round 1: Ward 4 Kovalev 1
Round 2: Ward 3 Kovalev 0
Round 3: Ward 6 Kovalev 1
Round 4: Ward 4 Kovalev 0
Round 5: Ward 3 Kovalev 1
Round 6: Ward 5 Kovalev 0
Round 7: Ward 4 Kovalev 1
Round 8: Ward 4 Kovalev 1
Round 9: Ward 4 Kovalev 1
Round 10: Ward 4 Kovalev 0
Round 11: Ward 5 Kovalev 0
Round 12: Ward 5 Kovalev 1
Some little funny ones to note round 3 second clinch in Ward shoots in for a takedown grabbing onto Kovalevs knee and once again round 6 second clinch in Ward tries to pick Kovalev up grabbing hold onto his legs.
Ward also shot in for a takedown early on in the fight here's a little picture to brighten up the wall of text
http://i.makeagif.com/media/11-28-2016/-kgprm.gif
So final results
Kovalev 7 Clinches
Ward 51 Clinches
So from those results I've got no problem with how the three judges scored it personally I had it 119-107 for Ward I scored the second round as 9-9 because Ward was the more busier of the two.
Red Cyclone? More like a serious case of red azz!
Just like your name states I just posted the facts about the clinching stats for the Ward Vs. Kovalev fight, thank you for contributing to this important discussion.
So some say in the last half of the fight that Kovalev "Clearly" held more and instigated the majority of the clinches so I have looked into this fight and counted clinches instigated by each fighter.
Also before handing out the result I would like to say ducking your head very low and lunging in is what I'd say is something that is pretty much instigating the movement so with that said here are the results.
Round 1: Ward 4 Kovalev 1
Round 2: Ward 3 Kovalev 0
Round 3: Ward 6 Kovalev 1
Round 4: Ward 4 Kovalev 0
Round 5: Ward 3 Kovalev 1
Round 6: Ward 5 Kovalev 0
Round 7: Ward 4 Kovalev 1
Round 8: Ward 4 Kovalev 1
Round 9: Ward 4 Kovalev 1
Round 10: Ward 4 Kovalev 0
Round 11: Ward 5 Kovalev 0
Round 12: Ward 5 Kovalev 1
Some little funny ones to note round 3 second clinch in Ward shoots in for a takedown grabbing onto Kovalevs knee and once again round 6 second clinch in Ward tries to pick Kovalev up grabbing hold onto his legs.
Ward also shot in for a takedown early on in the fight here's a little picture to brighten up the wall of text
http://i.makeagif.com/media/11-28-2016/-kgprm.gif
So final results
Kovalev 7 Clinches
Ward 51 Clinches
So from those results I've got no problem with how the three judges scored it personally I had it 119-107 for Ward I scored the second round as 9-9 because Ward was the more busier of the two.
Red Cyclone? More like a serious case of red azz!
:hail: lmfaooooooo end thread
I'd advise you and everyone else to stick to the matter at hand my stats are proven and will further be proven when I release my official CompuWard stats.
I'd like to thank everyone for taking part in this thread we know clinching is an important discussion to have and I simply only want to educate people who said Kovalev clinched more times than Ward.
Not accurate stats not unless those TPH count for laughing at Broner no I mean Floyd no I mean Ward fans.
The inaccuracy is because Compucry can't count tears that come out of your nose whilst sniveling. Your total probably is much higher. I only wish Compucry tracked you after Floyd/Manny.
Your watery eyes must blind your ability to read. I've stated many times that this fight could have gone either way and I don't believe I'm in the minority with that stance.
None of your posts are anything to do with boxing, welcome to my ignore list sir. good day to you :wave:
Go count the clinches in a Vlad fight...
That doesn't fit YOUR narrative.
There are no narrative in the fair and unbiased CompuClinch stats, thank you.
Rant of salty tears :bottle::bottle::bottle:
Your watery eyes must blind your ability to read. I've stated many times that this fight could have gone either way and I don't believe I'm in the minority with that stance.
He had to clinch to prevent Ward from working inside where he was more effective. It was actually a good strategy that worked well for Kovalev.
But the people in this thread crying get owned for breakfast, lunch and dinner, week after week so it's not surprising.
In case you didnt notice this is a boxing forum where people express there opinions, in this case on a highly controversial fight where the majority of people/journalists/respected boxing commentators scored the fight for the other man.
You are in the minority and the irony is the only guy crying is YOU, crying about people who have a different opinion to you? get a life dude.:bottle:
playing blind man again? you posted edited video that doesn't show how they came together in the first place. you and i both know ward initiated those clinches then he tried to free his arm or arms to hold and hit. kov didn't let him by clinching back but ward started it. don't be a larry, larry
Wahggum all of the sudden cares if a video is altered? If you can use an altered video why can't anyone else?
yep..i post video proof and they igore it and form their own damn agenda..these are the type of posters you just ignore..this is my last reply..i am done talking to people like this
playing blind man again? you posted edited video that doesn't show how they came together in the first place. you and i both know ward initiated those clinches then he tried to free his arm or arms to hold and hit. kov didn't let him by clinching back but ward started it. don't be a larry, larry
EXCELLENT statistics, I personally counted more clinches so this is a more than fair assesment of how scared Ward was and how he was simply not in Kovalev's level.
Kov had him in a headlock lol, you just gonna ignore that? My bad, I forget you Kov fan boys are blind. Even Kov's dirty tactics couldn't save him, held 50+ times.
Bow down to the light heavy messiah, SOG "The King Krusher" Ward
http://www.boxing.com/images/sized/images/articles/andre_ward_olympics-530x317.jpg
notice how SOG's crown resembles that of Jesus :hail: :hail: :hail:
He had to clinch to prevent Ward from working inside where he was more effective. It was actually a good strategy that worked well for Kovalev.
But the people in this thread crying get owned for breakfast, lunch and dinner, week after week so it's not surprising.
larry why not just post the entire sequence of video instead of starting the video when kov is already holding. for example the ward-kessler clinch video shows ward initiating all the clinches. im sure you could make a ward-kessler vid with kessler holding but would that be honest? you know the reason kov is holding is because ward started holding him but that part was cut out. you aren't biaed though right? you are against edited videos right? what happened!!!
Doesn't fit his narrative then.
yep..i post video proof and they igore it and form their own damn agenda..these are the type of posters you just ignore..this is my last reply..i am done talking to people like this
If I really need to make a video to highlight it out for you I will but I'm not doing it today maybe for the weekend it could be ready.
Nothing compared to the biggest Ward clinch record of all time against Kessler - 88 clinches!
Yep nowhere near as bad as that one I didn't expect it to be that bad either but still 58 clinches in total in a fight is pretty bad!
Fight could have been cracking If the referee was doing his job and making sure it remained clean maybe we'd have seen a KO?
It was there all night. Kov could have done it but he let the clinch happen when that bear hugging troll would come in like a bull with his head down and just head lock him.
All he had to do was take a half step back and pop that fucker. If Kov would have hit him 2 or 3 times while that troll attempted that BS matador shit, he would have stopped trying to clinch real quick.
I just hope the rematch happens and Kov sets the record straight with a stoppage. People like Ward are absolutely terrible for the sport. The guy doesn't fight at all. This dude literally just tries to hit and hold and tries to make every fight into a stink fest.
Amen to that, he's got the whole silver spoon treatment and I don't get why he has it he's literally the least entertaining fighter in that top frame the only one thing I like him for is he makes me appreciate guys like Rigo, Loma and Lara a lot more to see guys fight like Ward wishes he could fight is quite impressive they can win their fights without the nonsense of turning this sport into a mini-wrestling contest.