regulate it and allow it in reasonable dosages.
My boy EFF Pandas is right, I agree with him, he is pro steroids and peds to help fighters train better and recover better.
If a fighter wants to recover let him take hgh or steroids, I want to see athletes at their best not weight drained an weakened.
Give them steroids, in reasonable dosages, How do we get this on a ballot in Nevada for the next election?
It will help a lot, people I been study on Steroids and found out if done properly its safer than many of the supplements not regulated by the FDA.
They should allow low dosages and only for healing and recovery purposes.
There goes our Pacquiao's and Duran's. Poor 15 year olds up against juiced grown men. And you know since it will be legal these poor kids will try any black market bullsht the snakes are peddling.
Once steroids are legal the skills will drop dramatically, guaranteed.
On the bright side, if you're into retard fights, it'll be great.
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Do you realize these white NFL star QBs are bred from a young age by their dads with HGH? many of these dads want their kids to be quarterbacks, so they give the kid HGH so they can grow in high school. A lot of QBs are over 6 foot.
Yet many black kids dont take roids and are in the NFL and beat many of the white kids who take growth hormones to be bigger.
I believe what EFF Pandas said is logical, athletes should be allowed to take stuff to recover and help them perform better under supervision
I used to go at Eff Pandas over this, but when I sat down and started thinking, He has a point, Athletes boxers, etc are no ordinary humans, their main purposes defies what the human body is made for, so to deprive them things that will help them recover or heal and perform in a sport that is unnatural is unfair in itsself.
Its true a lot of guys are on peds and those guys are getting their azz kicked by guys who are not taking anything, so why not moderate it and allow it in reasonable terms, not for an advantage but for the sake and health of the boxers? I heard there are things that will help the brain heal as well that could be banned.
Diruretics is actually the most dangerous, they should just make fighters fight at their natural weight without having to cut weight but allow them steroids so they can be strong at the weight, weight cutting is more dangerous that is why lowerweight fighters die of brain swelling more than heavyweights, heavyweights RAREly die of brainswelling in fights and they get hit with heavyweight power. its becaue smaller guys try to gaina size advantage by draining water and water from their brain gets sapped as well it takes more than 24 hours to properly hydrate the body naturally as well.
Right but TS is talking steroids here not just some over the counter products or sh*t that you can just get at bodybuilding.com.
If we take the term "performance enhancing" into context, even pre-workouts would be considered performance enhancing.
SARMS are as good as some steroids, often better in the context of boxing and you can buy them online and they aren't illegal as long as you sell them with a label "not for human consumption" this is the case with somes SERMS as well.
Steroids aren't the best performance enhancers for boxers below Heavyweight because for them to really work you can't be cutting weight the way boxers do.
yeah thats a good point too ^. A fighter from a wealthier background is going to be able to do a safer and more effective stack of drugs
There goes our Pacquiao's and Duran's. Poor 15 year olds up against juiced grown men. And you know since it will be legal these poor kids will try any black market bullsht the snakes are peddling.
Once steroids are legal the skills will drop dramatically, guaranteed.
On the bright side, if you're into retard fights, it'll be great.
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I'll feel sorry for the great poor fighters with real dedication and drive to excel in the sport getting squashed because they can't afford the juice of the guys with actual money.
Steroids are so yesterday. Stem cell IV's are the latest. Dan Bilzerian openly admits to using TRT and humane growth hormone. He talked about how he went down to Mexico and got the stem cell IV and the results were unlike anything he's felt before, he estimated a 20% increase in his workout performance. Bas Rutten reported similar results. It's not illegal and there's no testing for it anyways.
They just came out with new gene editing technology superior to CRSPR, it won't be long before people are just getting performance upgrades.
I did a little research on this for a project I had due. It's fkin insane. Humans soon will be super humans. :hail:
Steroids are so yesterday. Stem cell IV's are the latest. Dan Bilzerian openly admits to using TRT and humane growth hormone. He talked about how he went down to Mexico and got the stem cell IV and the results were unlike anything he's felt before, he estimated a 20% increase in his workout performance. Bas Rutten reported similar results. It's not illegal and there's no testing for it anyways.
They just came out with new gene editing technology superior to CRSPR, it won't be long before people are just getting performance upgrades.
Steroids aren't legal in any other pro sport and they will never be allowed in boxing. Enough testosterone to bring a guy with low t up to normal levels should be OK. Bringing testosterone up way above normal shouldn't be allowed. Pot doesn't help a boxer fight better any more than getting high or drunk on booze would.
No, lots of the stuff on the banned list is either available over the counter or online, SARMS and mostbanned Diuretics are legal also. They pretty much ban anything that might help, some of the stuff on the banned list has no concrete evidence behind it being performance enhancing.
Right but TS is talking steroids here not just some over the counter products or sh*t that you can just get at bodybuilding.com.
If we take the term "performance enhancing" into context, even pre-workouts would be considered performance enhancing.
Reasonable dosages my a$$, there will always be the athletes that will take way more to gain an edge
Under commission and medical supervision they will test the blood weekly if they exceed usage and can only get shots by the commission approved doctor.
Aren't steroids illegal country-wide? "Boxing" can't just allow boxers to use steroids because it is illegal. What makes boxers so special over other athletes?
No, lots of the stuff on the banned list is either available over the counter or online, SARMS and mostbanned Diuretics are legal also. They pretty much ban anything that might help, some of the stuff on the banned list has no concrete evidence behind it being performance enhancing.
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Aren't steroids illegal country-wide? "Boxing" can't just allow boxers to use steroids because it is illegal. What makes boxers so special over other athletes?
Testosterone is legal for medical purposes, Marijuana was only legal for medicinal usage, now its legal for rec use.
Boxers and athletes could use testosterone under commission supervision at a moderate level just for recover and training purposes, they could cut off the usage a month before a fight or so.
Aren't steroids illegal country-wide? "Boxing" can't just allow boxers to use steroids because it is illegal. What makes boxers so special over other athletes?