Open scoring is needed in boxing

Fights in PR like Garcia-Herrera had open scoring. The most infamous examples are Alvarez-Trout and Garcia-Herrera. Cheers guys, appreciate that. Looked into it a bit, thought this short video, released shortly after Alvarez-Trout, gave a nice rundown of why open scoring is not a great idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHegCTtDWRY Still, something needs to be done about some of these judges man. Fighting to the death could work??

Open scoring encourages coasting and spoiling Basically. I'd hate to see it.

What really needs to change is the 10 must system. Statistically and logically it's useless. I've argued this for ages, yet people don't seem to understand

Open oring maybe should be compuliry for health reasons. Ward nearly went into cardiac arrest when announcemet he won.

The clinching rule should be enforced much more than it is.Deliberately grabbing a fighter with one hand and pounding away the the other hand is also illegal and called holding and hitting. This rule also needs to be enforced. Open scoring would be great but will probably never be a reality. The powers that be are afraid of a riot after every announcement of bad scoring instead of only one riot at the end of the fight.

Open scoring would drastically change boxing, to the detriment of the sport, with Kovalev-Ward being an example of how things could've been impacted. Sergey Kovalev was up 4-0 on the cards after 4 rounds; After 8 rounds, with the body work starting to sap things and the fight already turning the fight was even on one card, with Kovalev being up a single point on the other two cards. With the tide turning being public, how would a tiring Kovalev reacted?

Completely agree, only sport where you have no idea what the score is lol. TF!!

What fights have had open scoring, out of interest? Never seen it but have always wondered if it would work As mentioned, anticipating the final decision is partly what makes fights exciting (and/or controversial). BS decisions like Hoyle's card for Hooker on Saturday (and he has form, see: Bey v Vazquez 2014), however, make me think that something needs to be done to stop what looks like CORRUPTION. There's no other word for it Increased transparency throughout a fight might make a judge think twice before they enable robberies. On the other hand, we don't want majority-opinions of fans to override the expertise of judges, most of whom are very experienced, very fair and who are seeing things that casuals will never be able to appreciate The most infamous examples are Alvarez-Trout and Garcia-Herrera. In both cases the underdog was at least in the fight (and Herrera should have been winning) but both were far behind in open scoring after the 8th round. Since neither had power capable of forcing a stoppage it sucked all the drama out of the fight. Alvarez and Garcia were able to coast knowing they had it in the bag. We've already seen open scoring does nothing to stop corruption on the scorecards.

Open scoring encourages coasting and spoiling

Open scoring has failed many times already. It sounds good but in practice it really don't make a difference. Look at that Canelo/Trout fight

everyfigth i seen with open scoring ruined the figth for me. I felt exactly the same way, open scoring changes nothing except ruins the anticipation for the final score. Incompetent or corrupt judges are still going to be incompetent or corrupt regardless of whether you have to wait 30 minutes or less for their scorecard. Danny Garcia - Herrera was open scored, and Garcia basically couldn't lose a decision after the 8th round. I thought Herrera won that fight but knowing that he couldn't win a decision on the cards and didn't have the power to KO garcia ruined the fight you knew it was a close fight but you also knew the judges didn't see it that way so I didn't see the point (and the excitement) of watching the rest of the fight. Canelo - Trout was open scored another close, somewhat controversial fight. Trout even said that he felt it was really close but was told he was down on all the cards and had to abandon his gameplan and it made the fight worse. Mormeck - O'Neill Bell II was one of the worst, the first fight was FOTY level, in the rematch it was a war for 4 rounds. But with open scoring Mormeck was up 4 rounds to nil (and that was ridiculous, those rounds were damn close) and because of this Mormeck just coasted the rest of the fight knowing that stupid or corrupt judges would give him the rounds even if he coasted.

Open scoring is terrible IMO. The Canelo/Trout score being announced totally changed the fight. Trout was boxing and moving and tiring Canelo out. Trout somehow was far down on the cards and had to change his strategy to try and get a KO because he couldn't win a decision.

Making judges accountable for their actions? That makes too much sense

What fights have had open scoring, out of interest? Never seen it but have always wondered if it would work As mentioned, anticipating the final decision is partly what makes fights exciting (and/or controversial). BS decisions like Hoyle's card for Hooker on Saturday (and he has form, see: Bey v Vazquez 2014), however, make me think that something needs to be done to stop what looks like CORRUPTION. There's no other word for it Increased transparency throughout a fight might make a judge think twice before they enable robberies. On the other hand, we don't want majority-opinions of fans to override the expertise of judges, most of whom are very experienced, very fair and who are seeing things that casuals will never be able to appreciate Good point. Fans already sway judges by cheering one fighters punches if they land or not. Imagine if they booed the fck out of every round you gave to the b-side fighter. Be hard to ignore that if the rounds were close.

What fights have had open scoring, out of interest? Never seen it but have always wondered if it would work As mentioned, anticipating the final decision is partly what makes fights exciting (and/or controversial). BS decisions like Hoyle's card for Hooker on Saturday (and he has form, see: Bey v Vazquez 2014), however, make me think that something needs to be done to stop what looks like CORRUPTION. There's no other word for it Increased transparency throughout a fight might make a judge think twice before they enable robberies. On the other hand, we don't want majority-opinions of fans to override the expertise of judges, most of whom are very experienced, very fair and who are seeing things that casuals will never be able to appreciate

the score announcement at the end is undeniably exciting but think about it, what other sports are there where you can't keep track of your own performance throughout the match? to me it's just another case where boxing behaves more like a pantomime than a sport. it doesn't really need a twist at the end to remain compelling I dont want boxers changing their gameplans based on the subjective scoring of 3 judges, judges who often get things wrong. I prefer the fight plays out how its going to play out, and we make up our own minds what happened in the fight. Boxing is a different kind of sport to most. Its a fight. Its entertainment. The pantomime is all part and parcel of the event imo. I dont like it to be over the top. But waiting to here whos going to win and hearing "aaand still" or "aaand the new" is one of the iconic moments in boxing. Also the ring entrances, the face offs and everything. You dont have to be a casual to enjoy this stuff, it all adds personality and intrigue to the fight.

the score announcement at the end is undeniably exciting but think about it, what other sports are there where you can't keep track of your own performance throughout the match? to me it's just another case where boxing behaves more like a pantomime than a sport. it doesn't really need a twist at the end to remain compelling

Really dont like it personally. That wait before the decision is announced in a close fight is one of the big moments in boxing. I also dont think it will help with corruption. Also if a fighter is gonna be robbed i would rather they didnt know it and just fought as they normally would rather than having to change their gameplan and potentially getting KO'd or losing legitimately on the cards. Michael Conlan at the Olympics had that happen this year. After losing the first round (which he dominated) he switched styles and fought the brawler on the inside. He still should have won imo, but the last 2 rnds were much closer than they probably would have been if he had just stuck with his gameplan, and he would have had an even clearer case for corruption than he ended up having

Open scoring has been awful every time it is used. it ruins fights and does not stop corruption at all. I would hate to see it become standard.

Open scoring is very useful, especially during the Canelo-Trout fight where 2 judges had that fight 8-0 and 6-2, can't wait.