Kovalev vs. Prime Ward

Ward loses again. That was a peak ward that lost to kovalev On saturday. Kovalev can obviously hurt and put his man down. Ward was visibly hurt With jabs , short rt hands and straight rt hands

"Dude, everyone knew that Ward was past it, even before the fight. That he managed to win after that long pause from the sport is just amazing." WTF kind of lie is this? I never heard anyone say that.

IS Prime Froch isn't even a **** on sole of Kovalev's shoes and you are comparing him? Get that **** out of here! Froch beat Kessler, Abraham, Pascal, etc., Kovalev's best wins are a past it Pascal and a Hopkins fossil.

The even smaller man and weaker Andre Ward would get clipped and get crushed by the even bigger, heavier, stronger, hungrier, and even bigger Kovalev. When Ward was in his prime at 2011 he scraped past Froch when Kovalev was in his Prime in 2011 he killed a man in the ring. If prime Ward could beat Froch, then why couldn't a prime Ward also beat Kovalev? Froch DOES have a better resume than Kovalev, although Kovalev's certainly isn't bad.

I know this is a bait thread, but he's definitely slipped in my opinion. I think if it was rust or sharpness he would have got it back by now - if you watch his last 3 fights, and then watch his fights between 2011-13. It is night and day. I'm surprised because nowadays you don't really see guys slip until their mid 30's, especially boxer types, but in Ward's case he definitely has slipped. His reflexes, hand speed, foot speed, and general ability to pull the trigger have all slowed down. He is to me about 80% of what he use to be. In terms of fighting Kovalev - obviously he would have been more of a handful for Kovalev if he moved up in lets say 2013 and fought him then, although he may have been more vulnerable to getting ko'd also, he was more aggressive then, and is more careful now. I hope I'm wrong and Ward gets sharper and back to his very best, but I'm not holding my breath, this is what we have now, he is still a great fighter, just not physically what he was, and definitely not the fighter he was in 2012, when a lot of people thought he was pushing ahead of Pac and getting close to Floyd for p4p number 1.

so now these b1tches are making excuses for ward saying he was old and past time.hahahaha they know ward lost. Excuses? We don't need excuses. Ward won the fight. We are just wondering how much easier it would be for Ward if he was still in his prime.

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strange question. kovalev is older than ward. does that mean he is even further from his prime? 5 years ago ward was smaller man... 5 years ago he could still easily make 175lbs, he'd make that comfortable.

I said it a while ago didn't I... Ward is a weight bully he isn't as talented as you think take away his bullying tactics on the scales, take away his foul play of clinching/wrestling and dirty hits after breaks and you find a good but not great fighter this is the truth.

so now these b1tches are making excuses for ward saying he was old and past time.hahahaha they know ward lost.

strange question. kovalev is older than ward. does that mean he is even further from his prime? 5 years ago ward was smaller man...

Before the fight, EVERYONE, even Kovalev fans, said that Ward had lost a step or two. Now, because Ward won, people talk like he's at his best ever...

Dude, everyone knew that Ward was past it, even before the fight. That he managed to win after that long pause from the sport is just amazing. His reflexes and speed are not what they used to be. Ward hasn't reached his ceiling yet, he will win the rematch more convincing and their are fights to be made with Beterbiev, Stevenson and Golden Goose Gennady.

Jackson said he's in decline but I don't buy into it, Kovalev lost to a peak Dre. Dude, everyone knew that Ward was past it, even before the fight. That he managed to win after that long pause from the sport is just amazing. His reflexes and speed are not what they used to be.

How do you think the fight would go if Ward was still in his prime, as sharp as he was during the Super Six Tournament? Personally, I think Kovalev would lose every round. Jackson said he's in decline but I don't buy into it, Kovalev lost to a peak Dre. All this said I think he'd have won by wider margin of he had longer at the weight against other guys like Barrera.