still have Kov winning after re watching

Kovalev 8-4 More landed, more damage dished out, Knockdown, This is why there is a huge need for open scoring. Boxing needs a scoreboard. Fights are supposed to be competitive and if they arent , thats just how it goes. Anyone wanting to stink it up is only messing with their own money. Boxing should be ten 5 minute rounds Refs should enforce no clinching rules .agreed.:boxing:

Kovalev 8-4 More landed, more damage dished out, Knockdown, This is why there is a huge need for open scoring. Boxing needs a scoreboard. Fights are supposed to be competitive and if they arent , thats just how it goes. Anyone wanting to stink it up is only messing with their own money. Boxing should be ten 5 minute rounds Refs should enforce no clinching rules .

Respect dude. Good to see a big ward fan admit when he lost and show unbias. We need more objective fans like you on here. appreciate the kind words. but i've always been objective about andre ward, or at least i've tried. i think i've been pretty candid about how he contributed to his inactivity, and how he's a rough customer, even dirty, on the inside. now i'm trying to be candid about his 30 and 1 record :lol1: most of the guys in the crowd had ward behind. and the odds ended up swinging to make ward a heavier fave close to the fight. kovalev was almost 2-1 as a dog by the end of the morning of the fight. i placed my bet on ward on points at bellagio, and he was -140 at the time... on points! in other words, everybody who thought ward lost probably had money on him. at any rate, i don't care who lost enough for it to affect my level of respect for these two. i just don't care that much about who won. these guys are two of the very best fighters in the world, and they showed that they could make money fighting the sullivan barreras of the world. instead they fought each other and put the world on notice that boxing isn't dead. i'm proud of these two. legitimately proud. makes you feel good to be a boxing fan. no other sport can give you intensity like that.

The judges fucked up on round 10, which should go to Kovalev. Round 6 could possibly be scored even, but I gave it to Kovalev. Round 12 should be scored 10-10 even. I don't see a clear victor either way. I'm calling this fight a draw.

i agree with this. if you go through hoops you can make a card where ward won. that's not what a judge is supposed to do! it's just a heck of a lot easier to give this fight to kovalev than it is to give it to ward. there was a knockdown, kovalev outlanded ward and he's a significantly harder puncher. kovalev hurt ward badly enough to put him down. that gives you an idea of how hard some of the other punches in other rounds were landing. ward has an iron chin and a set of brass balls for being able to compose himself and not only get up from the bomb he took, but weather the storm that followed it. if kovalev had turned his knuckles over just a bit more there wouldn't be a LHW in the world who could have gotten up from that knockdown. that guy has f#cking lead in his gloves. he shook ward up with a jab. great, great, fight. this sport is a real treat when you have top fighters in their primes. guys don't ahve to be sluggers to make for great fights. just be yourself, develop a style that suits your physical characterstics, and take the fight. i want to see both of these guys, win or lose, asap. they've made a lot of fans for life. i hope the guys who don't respect andre ward have respect for him now. you can't say kovalev was whooping ass and is a great fighter without respecting ward for getting up off of the floor and changing the tempo of a fight that looked like it very well might end iwth him getting stopped. great, great fight. i had the time of my life out there. I do and dont respect him, i respect that he got up and fought on, but i don't respect that arrogant nature of him, and lying (first time ive been dropped) and disrespectful comments about kovalev not being his toughest opponent and disrespectful trainer comments, trying to re-write history and pretend this was an easy Ward win. It's nice to know not all Ward fan's are deluded fanboys. Green K sir.

It's roughly 85-15 in terms of the responses I've seen. Only the usual suspects think Ward won. Whatever, it's like Kova said in a post-fight interview, he doesn't care because he kicked his ass meaning beat him up physically, that's all that really mattered to him lol. Pretty sure he's probably angry he got the l but he's just not showing it. Anyways I couldn't give ward more than 4 rounds. I would of given him more if I saw ward outlanding more than kov but it was pretty even. I had given the close rounds to kov cause be was the clear aggressor and his punches seems more impactful then the soft touches ward was throwing. Oh and I don't know what to make of it but annoyed the **** out of me how ward kept diving head first and kov kept headlocking him. I'll probably watch the fight again tonight when I get the chance.

theres already a poll and nearly everybody said kovalev won. Nearly everyone?

The big majority of neutral fans who aren't Ward lovers and Russian haters had Kovalev a close but clear winner. The punch numbers from computerbox back this up. Ward fought well but Kovalev fought better. I think a poll will show this even though there are more Ward fans on here than Kovalev fans. But the thing is, most of the scores weren't "close but clear" most of the scores were extremely close.

It's roughly 85-15 in terms of the responses I've seen. Only the usual suspects think Ward won. Whatever, it's like Kova said in a post-fight interview, he doesn't care because he kicked his ass meaning beat him up physically, that's all that really mattered to him lol. Why lie? It's 73-27 in favour of Kovalev. Meaning over a quarter didn't have him winning. Average scorecard on the Twitter poll favoured Ward. I know you desperately want this to be as big a robbery as Pacquaio-Bradley 1 as you laughably tried to claim but here on Planet Earth it was still a close either way fight.

i was there for the fight and had kov winning big. had money on ward so I was very happy about the decision for that matter lol but after rewatching 2x yesterday I had it closer but still coudnt give ward the W at best u can give him maybe 4 or 5 rounds. he adjusted well and slowed kov down but kov still had moments throughout the final rounds. people will debate this one for some time. many people at the arena also were split on who won. the guy behind me said it would come down to the 12th round and I was like "you think so??" and he was dead on! I just don't see how ward won. and I almost always appreciate the savy boxer more in a fight which ward was, but kov was there with him and his power at first had ward on high alert Totally agree, at first i had kovalev winning very wide, after a couple more viewings i can see how ward won a few round's but still have kovalev winning a close but clear decision.

The big majority of neutral fans who aren't Ward lovers and Russian haters had Kovalev a close but clear winner. The punch numbers from computerbox back this up. Ward fought well but Kovalev fought better. I think a poll will show this even though there are more Ward fans on here than Kovalev fans. i agree with this. if you go through hoops you can make a card where ward won. that's not what a judge is supposed to do! it's just a heck of a lot easier to give this fight to kovalev than it is to give it to ward. there was a knockdown, kovalev outlanded ward and he's a significantly harder puncher. kovalev hurt ward badly enough to put him down. that gives you an idea of how hard some of the other punches in other rounds were landing. ward has an iron chin and a set of brass balls for being able to compose himself and not only get up from the bomb he took, but weather the storm that followed it. if kovalev had turned his knuckles over just a bit more there wouldn't be a LHW in the world who could have gotten up from that knockdown. that guy has f#cking lead in his gloves. he shook ward up with a jab. great, great, fight. this sport is a real treat when you have top fighters in their primes. guys don't ahve to be sluggers to make for great fights. just be yourself, develop a style that suits your physical characterstics, and take the fight. i want to see both of these guys, win or lose, asap. they've made a lot of fans for life. i hope the guys who don't respect andre ward have respect for him now. you can't say kovalev was whooping ass and is a great fighter without respecting ward for getting up off of the floor and changing the tempo of a fight that looked like it very well might end iwth him getting stopped. great, great fight. i had the time of my life out there.

The big majority of neutral fans who aren't Ward lovers and Russian haters had Kovalev a close but clear winner. The punch numbers from computerbox back this up. Ward fought well but Kovalev fought better. I think a poll will show this even though there are more Ward fans on here than Kovalev fans.theres already a poll and nearly everybody said kovalev won.

The big majority of neutral fans who aren't Ward lovers and Russian haters had Kovalev a close but clear winner. The punch numbers from computerbox back this up. Ward fought well but Kovalev fought better. I think a poll will show this even though there are more Ward fans on here than Kovalev fans.

It's roughly 85-15 in terms of the responses I've seen. Only the usual suspects think Ward won. Whatever, it's like Kova said in a post-fight interview, he doesn't care because he kicked his ass meaning beat him up physically, that's all that really mattered to him lol.