I sense that Ward is in the same mindset as he was for his first title fight against Mikkel Kessler. In that fight Ward fought extremely dirty and, among other nasty stuff, landed several blatant (yet uncalled) headbutts.
So what do you think? How many will headbutts will he land?
Ward and Hunter will pull out all the dirty tactics for this one.
I think so as well. They think they have a winning formula for fighting as a challenger. I hope the referee ensures that the fight will be fair.
I just don't like Ward's style. I find it extremely boring. You like it and it's all good. Ward needs fans.
I personally am undecided on who I think will win. I think that Wards lack of viable opposition in the past 5 years is a big issue. Had he fought a genuine top 10 lhw contender, he would have been better prepared.
Anyway that's not what this thread is about. Its about headbutts. Something that has been very subdued in Wards recent many fights, but a weapon that Ward will look to deploy again in this fight imo.
I hope for a referee who will enforce the rules of boxing.
Ward will try to headbutt Kovalev for sure... looking to cut him and capitalize on that... no doubt... I might also predict some MMA elbows thrown by Ward as well... But that's what ward does against stiff opposition -- therefore Kovalev has to cope with these... But in case he doesn't, he's lost... Anything else? :)
It's more of an excuse than a discussion, I understand fears of clinches but headbutts and elbows???
It hasn't been a problem for years so why are you bringing it up now?
Because of circumstance. Ward is in a position similar to the one he was in before the Kessler fight. Therefore it is relevant to discuss whether we think he will use the same dirty illegal tactics as he did back then.
:lol1: I am hoping the same. This is so pathetic and sad at the same time. Excuses flying from everywhere and yet you haven't seen one thread from the other side doing it, but only hoping it's a good fight and that the best fighter win. Truly pathetic
A thread with a poll with the question: "Will Kovalev try to kill Ward yes or no?" Makes room for little discussion.
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NOT TOO CONFIDENT IN KOV PULLING IT OFF ARE YOU?
GOT THE EXCUSES LOCKED AND LOADED
I just don't like Ward's style. I find it extremely boring. You like it and it's all good. Ward needs fans.
I personally am undecided on who I think will win. I think that Wards lack of viable opposition in the past 5 years is a big issue. Had he fought a genuine top 10 lhw contender, he would have been better prepared.
Anyway that's not what this thread is about. Its about headbutts. Something that has been very subdued in Wards recent many fights, but a weapon that Ward will look to deploy again in this fight imo.
I hope for a referee who will enforce the rules of boxing.
Kessler and Froch are just not on Kovalev's level, it's not much more complicated then that. Take away every single headbutt by Ward against Kessler and he still schools Kessler 10/10 times, Kessler simply just doesn't have an answer for the puzzle Ward puts out.
Kovalev is a completely different story, headbutts and dirty fighting will not affect the outcome of this fight in the slightest, if anything, Ward fighting "dirty" benefits Kovalev more. Sergey Kovalev isn't Mikkel Kessler, he's got some nasty, and his nasty-side would come out victorious in a collision with Wards 'dirty-ness.'
He will land plenty of "accidental" ones......as accidental as when Robert Byrd(the ref this weekend) thought Hopkins(who hasn't landed an accidental headbutt in his life) did this to Winky, by accident of course....
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Well, maybe Kovalev needs to listen to that coach who can't teach or tell him a damn thing, and maybe....just maybe he'll be able to avoid the headbutt.
Just my take on it. Moving along.
You are a Golovkin fan though, it's very obvious.... the real Kovalev fans like king_, Mathed and King Krusher actually talking about the fight and how they can't wait for a Kovalev victory. The Golovkin groupies like yourself are huddling together with your blood soaked g strings crying about headbutts that haven't yet happened.
Dude... look back and read what you are typing, bizarre delusional theories from a clearly mentally ill fanboy.
it's really sad
It's more of the fact whenever someone mentions it the pathetic nerdy ward / TMT fans come in the thread screaming like weirdos U JUST WANNA SEE WARD LOSE, UR SCARED AND HAV EXUSES DOE YOU DONT WANT THE FITE TO HAPPEN :lol1:
It really is like the famous leave britney alone video.
And you are just proving my above post again and again. now ur bizarrely spouting that im a golovkin fan as well. it really is embarrassing mate, just stop. where have i ever said im a ggg fan? never. i have in years only stated im a joseph parker fan.
BUT ALL GGG FANS R KOVLALVE FANS DOE1?!?! you guys are so embarrassing :lol1:
And now you are claiming that i don't want to see the best fight in years because i mention about how dirty ward has been in previous fights, and you act like his **** dont stink.
so again, just continue to make yourself look like a total idiot, you're doing a great job :lol1:
You are a Golovkin fan though, it's very obvious.... the real Kovalev fans like king_, Mathed and King Krusher actually talking about the fight and how they can't wait for a Kovalev victory. The Golovkin groupies like yourself are huddling together with your blood soaked g strings crying about headbutts that haven't yet happened.
It's more of an excuse than a discussion, I understand fears of clinches but headbutts and elbows???
It hasn't been a problem for years so why are you bringing it up now?
And no the only pathetic individuals are the ones like you and your fellow Golovkin bandwagon brethren who swore Ward would fake injury, retire and never take the Kovalev fight because he would get crushed YET have done nothing but make excuses since the fight got officially announced. You still holding out for a last minute shoulder or knee injury? I'd place a bet on that if I were you. You'd get great odds :)
It's more of the fact whenever someone mentions it the pathetic nerdy ward / TMT fans come in the thread screaming like weirdos U JUST WANNA SEE WARD LOSE, UR SCARED AND HAV EXUSES DOE YOU DONT WANT THE FITE TO HAPPEN :lol1:
It really is like the famous leave britney alone video.
And you are just proving my above post again and again. now ur bizarrely spouting that im a golovkin fan as well. it really is embarrassing mate, just stop. where have i ever said im a ggg fan? never. i have in years only stated im a joseph parker fan.
BUT ALL GGG FANS R KOVLALVE FANS DOE1?!?! you guys are so embarrassing :lol1:
And now you are claiming that i don't want to see the best fight in years because i mention about how dirty ward has been in previous fights, and you act like his **** dont stink.
so again, just continue to make yourself look like a total idiot, you're doing a great job :lol1:
So because he didnt elbow and headbutt someones eye close in every single fight and cos it was ages ago....its therefore not allowed to be discussed LOL, great points mate! and if you do mention it you hate the son of god and u want to see him lose.
truely pathetic and incredible :lol1:
It's more of an excuse than a discussion, I understand fears of clinches but headbutts and elbows???
It hasn't been a problem for years so why are you bringing it up now?
And no the only pathetic individuals are the ones like you and your fellow Golovkin bandwagon brethren who swore Ward would fake injury, retire and never take the Kovalev fight because he would get crushed YET have done nothing but make excuses since the fight got officially announced. You still holding out for a last minute shoulder or knee injury? I'd place a bet on that if I were you. You'd get great odds :)
Let's also pretend that Ward is 30-0 with all 30 victories being exactly the same as the Kessler fight.... let's pretend it wasn't seven years ago, let's pretend Bika wasn't fouling just as much and let's pretend Kovalev is a clean fighter that doesn't use headlocks and rabbit punches. Let's just keep pretending people.
So because he didnt elbow and headbutt someones eye close in every single fight and cos it was ages ago....its therefore not allowed to be discussed LOL, great points mate! and if you do mention it you hate the son of god and u want to see him lose.
truely pathetic and incredible :lol1:
What's truely pathetic is let's just pretend he's a clean fighter, and has never elbowed and headbutted anyone, he never holds, everyone who says that he does any of those things is either:
A GGG and or a kovalev fan (and most likely a racist and therefore a trump supporter)
A casual who DSAB
a pathetic feminine hater who is desperate to see him lose.
Jealous of his skills.
If you DO mention on a boxing discussion forum that he has used this dirty/illegal tactics in previous big bouts, then YOU ARE JUST PREPARING EXUSES COS UR SCARED WARD GUNNA WIN
:lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
Let's also pretend that Ward is 30-0 with all 30 victories being exactly the same as the Kessler fight.... let's pretend it wasn't seven years ago, let's pretend Bika wasn't fouling just as much and let's pretend Kovalev is a clean fighter that doesn't use headlocks and rabbit punches. Let's just keep pretending people.
What's truely pathetic is let's just pretend he's a clean fighter, and has never elbowed and headbutted anyone, he never holds, everyone who says that he does any of those things is either:
A GGG and or a kovalev fan (and most likely a racist and therefore a trump supporter)
A casual who DSAB
a pathetic feminine hater who is desperate to see him lose.
Jealous of his skills.
If you DO mention on a boxing discussion forum that he has used this dirty/illegal tactics in previous big bouts, then YOU ARE JUST PREPARING EXUSES COS UR SCARED WARD GUNNA WIN
:lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
The reason it's said is because of the people posting it who have a history of whining. For example, BattlingNelson and Freedom have been crying about the Kessler fight since it happened and bring it up every chance they get, so they are seen as whiners. While people have admitted and sided with them on the issue it still becomes a topic cause they can't just simply "get over it" as it happened forever ago.
Nobody here on these boards will truthfully say Ward never headbutted in the Kessler fight. We get it, it happened, move the heck on, this is an entirely different fight.
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