I'm not saying I think Krusher beats Ward, I'm more referring to the Odds on the fight outcome. Krusher to win by KO is 3-1 odds while a decision is 6-1. They did the same thing with B Hop saying it would be less likely a decision win and more likely a KO for Krusher.
I 'm just wondering what you guys think. I personally think a decision is more likely than a KO for either guy. IF Sergey wins I'd imagine it something like the Hopkins fight with him hurting Ward and then pressuring him til the final bell. What do you guys think is most likely if Sergey wins? I just don't see either guy getting finished especially since Sergey couldn't finish B-Hop or Chilemba and Ward has never really been badly hurt, and has amazing defense.
I actually like both guys (hard not to respect Sergey after seeing him beat Hopkins in that fashion) so it'll be tough to see one lose, I was thinking Ward by decision, but at 6-1 odds for Krusher by decision it might be worth putting a few dollars on Krusher by decision. I could see him hurting Ward once or twice and get him to hold back and beat him similar to Hopkins.
Thoughts ? Is Krusher by Dec at 6-1 a good bet.?
Just curious how you think he can? Like which round? If he didn't KO Chilemba or a 50 year old Hopkins what makes you think he can KO Ward? I think Ward is at least equal if not better defensively than Chilemba and Hopkins.after reading it back i suppose i wasnt real clear on what i meant...
i believe andre ward will win the fight by a pretty clear decision win...no controversy other than from the group of ward detractors who will bitttch about the way ward goes about the manner of his business and the locale of the fight...
what i meant was kovalev has a snow balls chance in hell at beating ward if the fight goes the distance so its understandable to me that the oddsmakers have it kov by ko over kov by decision...
There is no way Kovalev will win a decision over Ward.
His only chance is to get a KO or stoppage - I suggest maybe in the first half of the fight.
Ward is the type of guy who works a fighter out and can make them look clumsy in the later rounds.
Kovalev needs to land something BIG early, and pour on pressure for a stoppage IMO.
When Kovalev gets angry or frustrated, he drops his hands way too much.
I see Krusher getting frustrated by Wards movement, and krusher dropping his hands, and Ward catching him with right hands.
Krusher will eat some right hands and get angry, which means he drops his hands and gets sloppy.
So I think the accumulation of right hands and left hooks will take a toll, and krusher will hit the canvas.
After that, who knows? Maybe Ward punches out, and krusher comes back and drops Ward.
I think both of them are gonna have to come off the canvas.
I don't think Kovalev needs to be tired to hit the canvas. Ward hits hard enough to put him there when Kovalev is off balance, which is one of Kovalev's biggest flaws. I expect Ward to score a flash KD at some point.
I actually agree. Ward is an excellent survivor and it's more likely that Kovalev decisions him than knocks him out. If he's hurting Ward enough to make a KO possible, Ward likely grabs his way through it and Kovalev will take the decision.
People definitely underestimate the Kovalev decision possibility here.
When Kovalev gets angry or frustrated, he drops his hands way too much.
I see Krusher getting frustrated by Wards movement, and krusher dropping his hands, and Ward catching him with right hands.
Krusher will eat some right hands and get angry, which means he drops his hands and gets sloppy.
So I think the accumulation of right hands and left hooks will take a toll, and krusher will hit the canvas.
After that, who knows? Maybe Ward punches out, and krusher comes back and drops Ward.
I think both of them are gonna have to come off the canvas.
Perhaps it will be FOTY. With my luck it would end as a draw.
When Kovalev gets angry or frustrated, he drops his hands way too much.
I see Krusher getting frustrated by Wards movement, and krusher dropping his hands, and Ward catching him with right hands.
Krusher will eat some right hands and get angry, which means he drops his hands and gets sloppy.
So I think the accumulation of right hands and left hooks will take a toll, and krusher will hit the canvas.
After that, who knows? Maybe Ward punches out, and krusher comes back and drops Ward.
I think both of them are gonna have to come off the canvas.
I had $100 on Marquez to get a decision against Pacquiao in the 4th. I can't tell you how bittersweet it was to see Pacquiao get knocked out. On one hand I was happy to see JMM get such a fantastic win but totally pissed he actually did it. At those odds I could see it being a good bet but obviously my track record isn't a good one when it comes to putting real money on a fight.
i really only see kovalev winning by ko so im not surprised by the odds in the least
Just curious how you think he can? Like which round? If he didn't KO Chilemba or a 50 year old Hopkins what makes you think he can KO Ward? I think Ward is at least equal if not better defensively than Chilemba and Hopkins.
I'm not saying I think Krusher beats Ward, I'm more referring to the Odds on the fight outcome. Krusher to win by KO is 3-1 odds while a decision is 6-1. They did the same thing with B Hop saying it would be less likely a decision win and more likely a KO for Krusher.
I 'm just wondering what you guys think. I personally think a decision is more likely than a KO for either guy. IF Sergey wins I'd imagine it something like the Hopkins fight with him hurting Ward and then pressuring him til the final bell. What do you guys think is most likely if Sergey wins? I just don't see either guy getting finished especially since Sergey couldn't finish B-Hop or Chilemba and Ward has never really been badly hurt, and has amazing defense.
I actually like both guys (hard not to respect Sergey after seeing him beat Hopkins in that fashion) so it'll be tough to see one lose, I was thinking Ward by decision, but at 6-1 odds for Krusher by decision it might be worth putting a few dollars on Krusher by decision. I could see him hurting Ward once or twice and get him to hold back and beat him similar to Hopkins.
Thoughts ? Is Krusher by Dec at 6-1 a good bet.?I think it's only a good bet if you think Kovalev will win that way.If you think Ward will win then you are betting on something you don't believe will happen because of the potential big payoff. If Ward wins like you believe he will then you lose your money and the good odds won't take the sting out of it. Bet on what you believe will happen or don't bet.
Kovalev is a KO guy. That is the way he almost always wins. Kovalev is a good boxer with a great left jab and that helps him to get KOs. Ward is an average puncher and only his left knocks anybody out as a rule. Ward is famous for his boxing. He is a better pure boxer than Kovalev. The natural prediction is if Kovalev wins it will be by KO. If the fight goes the distance Ward is the expected winner. It doesn't have to go that way but I think that is what most fans believe.
Kovalev UD is very possible.
Kovalev's power and aggression often cause his opponents to shell up. We might see Ward more defensive than he has ever been before. When he's in that high-defense mode, he's throwing less punches.
If the judges favor Kovalev's output and aggression, he's going to be winning rounds. Ward might adjust, but what if he doesn't get comfortable until the middle rounds? If he doesn't sweep the second half, they could have him behind on the scorecards. What if Kovalev scores a knockdown? That's another round in his bank. Ward is most likely not going to score any knockdowns.
Maybe I'm wrong and Ward puts on the greatest performance of his career. It could be the fight of the year.
I agree. I personally am leaning towards Ward, but at 6-1 I can put 50$ and make 300$ and I feel that's more likely an outcome than a KO. Other than Boone when has Ward ever been hurt? He's been in there with big punchers too. Kessler, Abraham, Froch, Miranda.
Yeah but that was 5 years ago and at 168 lbs when he was active full time and had younger legs. He hasnt looked phenomenal at 168 in my opinion.
Another way of looking at it is; do you think Ward WON'T be able to clinch Kovalev if he gets hurt? We're talking about a fighter in Kovalev who is powerful, but not a 1-punch ko artist vs a guy who can work his way in and grapple guys like no one else in the sport.
I agree. I personally am leaning towards Ward, but at 6-1 I can put 50$ and make 300$ and I feel that's more likely an outcome than a KO. Other than Boone when has Ward ever been hurt? He's been in there with big punchers too. Kessler, Abraham, Froch, Miranda.
Some here have colorful imaginations about that but the clean shots landed by Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Dawson, didn't ever rock him or slow him. Getting dropped by Boone (who dropped Kovalev too) and being able to still win the fight handily is almost a positive thing when evaluating his chin. I think the biggest factor will be if Kovalev can adapt as well as give a variety of looks which will force Ward to constantly adapt. When Ward is allowed to play his game, the opponent is reduced to having a puncher's chance.
If I were betting, I might follow your lead there as Kovalev via D isn't unreasonable at all, probably the 2nd most likely outcome IMO, and I'm imagining the most likely option (Ward UD) isn't paying much.
I agree. I personally am leaning towards Ward, but at 6-1 I can put 50$ and make 300$ and I feel that's more likely an outcome than a KO. Other than Boone when has Ward ever been hurt? He's been in there with big punchers too. Kessler, Abraham, Froch, Miranda.
Wtf? Yea... do it! I'm going for Ward but if I was betting I would do it.
People see Krusher smash dudes so they think 'KO' but if you're betting on him, smart money would be decision. Chilemba showed a slight bit of defence and was able to last 12 rds. Even the shell of Hopkins was able. Ward has far greater defense than both and you can't ko a guy you're not landing cleanly on. Couple that with the fact that Kovalev is going to be fighting cautiously to minimize counters, since Ward is a master at that. I'd go for Kovalev by decision if I was going that direction.
I agree. I personally am leaning towards Ward, but at 6-1 I can put 50$ and make 300$ and I feel that's more likely an outcome than a KO. Other than Boone when has Ward ever been hurt? He's been in there with big punchers too. Kessler, Abraham, Froch, Miranda.
People see Krusher smash dudes so they think 'KO' but if you're betting on him, smart money would be decision. Chilemba showed a slight bit of defence and was able to last 12 rds. Even the shell of Hopkins was able. Ward has far greater defense than both and you can't ko a guy you're not landing cleanly on. Couple that with the fact that Kovalev is going to be fighting cautiously to minimize counters, since Ward is a master at that. I'd go for Kovalev by decision if I was going that direction.
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