Should the IBF strip Brook if he fights Pacquiao next and finally give Errol Spence the oppurtunity that he's deserved and been waiting for for a while now?
Or should this be a unification fight and then Spence gets the winner for the 2 belts?
I think Brook should be stripped and Spence should fight the number 2 guy for the vacant belt, then he's gonna have a belt and will be a bit more attractive for other fighters to get in the ring with him, I think if he waits for Pacquiao and Brook to fight, the winner probably will stall again and he won't get the IBF title shot till 2018.
Brook should be striped if he fights anybody but Spence next.What good are rules if they aren't enforced. Spence is the best welterweight in the world and he is in his prime. He shouldn't have to wait another year to 18 months be a champion. Neither Brook or Pacquiao fight very often. Pacquiao just fought. If he fought Brook it would be 6 to 8 months from now. The winner of a Brook-Pacquiao fight would wait another 6 to 8 months before fighting Spence. That is too long for Spence to wait to get his title shot.
Finally someone that agrees with me! You know if I thought that the winner of Brook vs Pacquiao would definitley fight Spence I'd be all for the fight, but we know that Pacquiao would never fight Spence because he's dangerous and because of Haymon and Arum, and Brook will definitley vacate after the fight and will probably fight Amir Khan at 150 or something, this while forcing Spence to wait another 8 months or maybe a year to get his shot at a damn vacant title, that's just not fair.
The only thing I disagree with is people claiming that Spence is the best welterweight in the world, he definitley is not, but neither is Brook nor Thurman nor Garcia nor even Pacquiao, a lot of fights has to happen to determine who the best is and I also feel like Spence can beat all of them, but won't give him the credit until he does it in the ring.
Brook should be striped if he fights anybody but Spence next.What good are rules if they aren't enforced. Spence is the best welterweight in the world and he is in his prime. He shouldn't have to wait another year to 18 months be a champion. Neither Brook or Pacquiao fight very often. Pacquiao just fought. If he fought Brook it would be 6 to 8 months from now. The winner of a Brook-Pacquiao fight would wait another 6 to 8 months before fighting Spence. That is too long for Spence to wait to get his title shot.get a clue the rules allow you to take a unification over any mandatory so brook will not be stripped that's a fact.spence is far from the best welterweight in the world stop overrating him it makes you look foolish.
Brook should be striped if he fights anybody but Spence next.What good are rules if they aren't enforced. Spence is the best welterweight in the world and he is in his prime. He shouldn't have to wait another year to 18 months be a champion. Neither Brook or Pacquiao fight very often. Pacquiao just fought. If he fought Brook it would be 6 to 8 months from now. The winner of a Brook-Pacquiao fight would wait another 6 to 8 months before fighting Spence. That is too long for Spence to wait to get his title shot.
That sounds good, but the reality is if Brook vacates or is stripped Spence will be fighting a unsexy opponent, most likely, for the vacant IBF strap. Here's the current rankings:
1. NOT RATED
2. Errol Spence Jr.
3. Konstantin Ponomarev
4. Jeff Horn
5. Lamont Peterson
6. Leonard Bundu
7. Bradley Skeete
8. Charles Manyuchi
9. Eddie Gomez
10. Andre Berto
Spence vs Peterson seems about the most interesting fight thats possible for Spence.
Peterson ahead of Diego Chaves??? He is the person who should be sitting at number one, only inactivity lost him is position.
That sounds good, but the reality is if Brook vacates or is stripped Spence will be fighting a unsexy opponent, most likely, for the vacant IBF strap. Here's the current rankings:
1. NOT RATED
2. Errol Spence Jr.
3. Konstantin Ponomarev
4. Jeff Horn
5. Lamont Peterson
6. Leonard Bundu
7. Bradley Skeete
8. Charles Manyuchi
9. Eddie Gomez
10. Andre Berto
Spence vs Peterson seems about the most interesting fight thats possible for Spence.
Well a fight against Berto for the vacant title AND for the number 1 spot for the WBC (Berto is somehow number 1 according to the WBC) would be a great deal for Spence since he fights for a title and gets a chance to become the mandatory for the Thurman Garcia winner at the same time, but again, does Berto take the fight? I think the only fighter on that list that would take the fight would be Ponomarev and that doesn't do much for spence except give him a title that'd make him a bit more attractive for other fighters to fight him.
As a Kell Brook fan, this is a tricky one. It's good to have a big unification fight for the sport of boxing to unify the paper titles. But at the same time, if we're going to respect these governing bodies they need to have some morals/principles which are adhered to. Errol Spence, Jr. is also ranked #3 by the WBO. I would like to see the Brook-Pacquiao fight, with the winner having to fight Spence next. If a duck move is pulled, why not have Errol Spence, Jr. vs. Timothy Bradley for the unified IBF/WBO title?
Well with the corruption that's going on in boxing we know that the WBO can't be held by a non Arum fighter or at least not by a Haymon fighter, we all know for a fact that Pacquiao would vacate and would never fight Spence and that Arum will manage to get Tim to fight Vargas in a "highly anticipated rematch" for Pacquiao's vacant belt. I think the WBO would be the hardest belt to pick for Spence since the WBO IS run by Arum.
SHOULD they strip Brook? No. WOULD they strip Brook? More than likely. Remember, this is the same organization that stripped Fury for wanting a rematch with Klitschko rather than face their mandatory. I can certainly see the IBF taking the title away from Kell.
As a Kell Brook fan, this is a tricky one. It's good to have a big unification fight for the sport of boxing to unify the paper titles. But at the same time, if we're going to respect these governing bodies they need to have some morals/principles which are adhered to. Errol Spence, Jr. is also ranked #3 by the WBO. I would like to see the Brook-Pacquiao fight, with the winner having to fight Spence next. If a duck move is pulled, why not have Errol Spence, Jr. vs. Timothy Bradley for the unified IBF/WBO title?
I'd let him slide for the sake of landing as Pac fight. But I'd order the winner of that to defend the IBF Championship against Spence next or else be stripped.
Winner of Pac-Brook would most likely face winner of Thurman-Garcia.
Spence in the meanwhile needs a top 10 guy to face. Broner is facing a nobody.... Porter would take the fight.
Then there's guys like Guerrero, Berto,...
Spence should fight Porter.
No I don't approve of it. I'm a big Spence fan but I don't want to break tradition of unifications trumping mandatories. The sport is bigger than one fighter, even if that fighter is my favorite fighter.
Well in a perfect world Brook should first fight Spence and the winner should fight Pacquiao in a unification bout, but you already know Arum isnot going to let Spence get in there with Pacquiao even if he beats all the other welterweight. I think prospects getting their chance is just as important as unification bouts. Rankings not being respected and sanctioning bodies bnding their rules for money is one of the things that's totally wrong with boxing.
No they shouldn't strip him. But I can see the winner of that fight dropping the IBF to avoid the mandatory
So you approve of Spence basically getting screwed out of his oppurtunity again for god knows how long? this is not right man.