a regular joe would fight any pro for less than 1 mil. throw 1/2 a mil at us and wed jump at it. if we were pro boxers, 10 mil might not be enough.
What if you were a pro boxer who couldn't possibly make $10 million against anybody else?
It's more than double my biggest payday. It's a little less than what canelo made vs Floyd, right? I think ginger made between 9-12 mil. Please correct me if I'm wrong. That is boxing second highest grossing fight.
Idk how much people think a canelo vs ggg fight will or can make, but if you're not willing to take that offer then why bother to negotiate at all? Your star isn't that bright. Jacobs, Saunders, Eubank, Degale, or anyone else isn't getting you near that unless you fight a few of those names in one calendar year.
I agree that canelo and GBP will lose money as well, however, there's always that Cotto rematch looming. There's still him putting 50k butts in a stadium when he fights to fall back on. He's younger, has a longer career ahead of him, so I think he'll be ok in the money department in comparison to ggg. What do i know? I only answered the question that was asked in this thread.
If Canelo absolutey will not budge from that first offer he made, then Golovkin can always accept it further down the line. But he'd be nuts to not even try to get something better, with a whole year to play with.
Oscar is bluffing with this, imo. He knows a fight as big as GGG/Canelo will end up with a percentage split deal.
Meantime, he can try to appease all the fans Canelo pissed off by ducking out of defending his MW belt with this bullshit.
GGG holds the WBC, WBA and IBF titles in his weight class. He's the only fighter in the world that currently holds the WBC, WBA and IBF titles in his weight class. Hell, he's the only fight in the world that holds the WBC & WBA titles in his weight class.
Canelo dropped down in weight and gave up his title to avoid his mandatory, GGG.
Canelo's claim to fame is getting dominated by Floyd Mayweather and beating an over the hill Miguel Cotto for the imaginary 155 pound world championship.
GGG is the most dominant fighter in the world right now and should be ranked #1 pound for pound. Nobody else has dominated their weight class the way GGG has. He knows Canelo can't make 154 forever. Canelo is starving himself to avoid GGG. It's only a matter of time before he has no choice but to face GGG.
Why should GGG settle for $10 million when he can wait a year and make more? Possibly much much more?
I don't think he should wait another 2 years, this fight shouldn't be about money to him or his team, it should be about getting Canelo name on his resume, the money would come with a Canelo win, waiting for Canelo can take forever. Again call Canelos bluff and KO him, not only would GGG be getting his biggest career pay to date but he would have made his resume and a rematch more lucrative, he has been ducked for so long according to his team but now they are going to let money prevent him from achieving that goal? That doesn't sound or sit right.
The point I'm making is ... why would you accept the first offer you get, when you know you have at least a year to negotiate?
And remember, if they don't make the fight with GGG, Canelo and Oscar are going to be losing money too.
It's more than double my biggest payday. It's a little less than what canelo made vs Floyd, right? I think ginger made between 9-12 mil. Please correct me if I'm wrong. That is boxing second highest grossing fight.
Idk how much people think a canelo vs ggg fight will or can make, but if you're not willing to take that offer then why bother to negotiate at all? Your star isn't that bright. Jacobs, Saunders, Eubank, Degale, or anyone else isn't getting you near that unless you fight a few of those names in one calendar year.
I agree that canelo and GBP will lose money as well, however, there's always that Cotto rematch looming. There's still him putting 50k butts in a stadium when he fights to fall back on. He's younger, has a longer career ahead of him, so I think he'll be ok in the money department in comparison to ggg. What do i know? I only answered the question that was asked in this thread.
Why would I then wait for him? Make no sense waiting on a date that the other person isn't interested in making. This sport consists of thousands of fighters in every division, 1 guy won't dictate my timetable because I'm that confident in my ability. $10 mil or not.
And let's face it, we're talking ggg-canelo here. The payday would be great, but I gotta be realistic with myself(ggg) and look at the situation. This isn't for the wbc belt that canelo had and I made him get rid of. This is probably a fight where it's not favoring me because I'm fighting a bigger name. So if I'm still that confident, then I'll have to concede to things I normally wouldn't for anyone else. If not, then I'll continue to fight for the pay I'm getting 3 times a year and look elsewhere.
Idk what realistic number you think this fight can make in today's boxing economy, but $10 mil isn't bad. And if anyone thinks it is, then pass up on it and continue with your career. There's no sense in waiting on someone to put food on my table
The point I'm making is ... why would you accept the first offer you get, when you know you have at least a year to negotiate?
And remember, if this fight doesn't happen, GGG isn't the only one who lose out on a monster payday, Canelo and Oscar will too. Golovkin is the biggest fight out there for them.
GGG is an entertainer. there is no deserve. he deserves whatever the contract stipulates. period. boxers are not soldiers, police, doctors, farmers, etc. their services are entirely inessential.
GBP started with a low ball offer they knew GGG wouldn't accept to buy themselves some time. when GGG annihilates canelo, GBP has nothing left.
That's why Team GGG needs to call GBP bluff, get the fight done and KO Canelo, a rematch would be bigger and more lucrative. Canelo would need GGG after getting destoryed, right now Canelo does not need GGG and the longer the fight takes to happen the better for GBP... only idiots think money should be the only way forward for GGG here.
If you are confident of beating someone would you offer them a crappy deal that they will never accept, drop a world title and force yourself back down to an uncomfortable weight to put the fight off for a year for no reason?
GGG/K2 just saying 'f*ck it, we'll take the fight' is exactly what Canelo/GBP are hoping for. They know they have given him a sh*t offer and are using the media to try and pressure GG and make him look like the one stalling the fight.
GG would be crazy to take a flat fee for this fight bearing in mind how big it could potentially be.
Good post :ANYWORD:
If you are confident of beating someone would you offer them a crappy deal that they will never accept, drop a world title and force yourself back down to an uncomfortable weight to put the fight off for a year for no reason?
GGG/K2 just saying 'f*ck it, we'll take the fight' is exactly what Canelo/GBP are hoping for. They know they have given him a sh*t offer and are using the media to try and pressure GG and make him look like the one stalling the fight.
GG would be crazy to take a flat fee for this fight bearing in mind how big it could potentially be.
When GGG gets more than $10 million for the fight, will everybody saying he should take the $10 million be apologizing?
Who cares about the money? So now it's about money? It's not about people ducking him anymore? At 34/35 by the time the potential fight happens is that all we care about? His priority should be Canelo's name on his mediocre resume.
And he can sign the deal when it's time to actually make the fight. Considering it's nowhere near time, what's the big deal? Right now his team is more concerned with making fights right now than dealing with Golden Boy's bullsh*t over a fight that can't happen for almost a year, at best.
I don't care when he signs the fight, he can sign it on the actual day of the fight if he wants, am tired of people like yourself crying about a fight that they have in front of them. But now claiming they don't have to sign the fight now. But then cry about how people are ducking him. Phuck the money get the fight done, KO Canelo and talk later.
And if the guy who offered you $10million also told you that he wasn't going to fight you for at least another year, would you not think that a year was plenty of time to negotiate and see if you can get something better?
Golovkin knows that there is potentially a lot more than $10million in this fight for him.
Why would I then wait for him? Make no sense waiting on a date that the other person isn't interested in making. This sport consists of thousands of fighters in every division, 1 guy won't dictate my timetable because I'm that confident in my ability. $10 mil or not.
And let's face it, we're talking ggg-canelo here. The payday would be great, but I gotta be realistic with myself(ggg) and look at the situation. This isn't for the wbc belt that canelo had and I made him get rid of. This is probably a fight where it's not favoring me because I'm fighting a bigger name. So if I'm still that confident, then I'll have to concede to things I normally wouldn't for anyone else. If not, then I'll continue to fight for the pay I'm getting 3 times a year and look elsewhere.
Idk what realistic number you think this fight can make in today's boxing economy, but $10 mil isn't bad. And if anyone thinks it is, then pass up on it and continue with your career. There's no sense in waiting on someone to put food on my table
So you disagree with me that GGG will get more than 10 million for the fight?
He might, that doesn't mean he's deserving of it. There is a such thing as being underpaid, overpaid, making a bad investment, etc.
Who cares if the fight is in 10 months? Get the fight and KO Canelo, all that crap about Ward or whatnot is just BS. They cannot cry about someone ducking him when he offer he has on the table is the biggest of his life.
And he can sign the deal when it's time to actually make the fight. Considering it's nowhere near time, what's the big deal? Right now his team is more concerned with making fights right now than dealing with Golden Boy's bullsh*t over a fight that can't happen for almost a year, at best.
LOL...I would box anybody for half that amount, who cares whether I am confident to win or not.
As long as I can enjoy the money later, I'd be more than glad to make a fool of myself until my opponent decides to knock me out.
But well, I am not a pro boxer.
As for GGG, I do not care how much he thinks he deserves.
The bottom line to me is: GGG team brags a lot, but they still have to back it up... the clock is ticking...
they stated that if ggg takes the 10 mil fight is on..... but really cant trust fishnets... but the idea is same when odh did that to floyd and to others etc.
Not till Sept 2017 doe. And from what Oscar was saying, they made the offer to GGG over a month ago.
it would be good for boxing if Floyd lose to Canelo ,but i daubt if Floyd Care about boxing (ofc he dont need to i dont hate him or something )i think in this situation Floyd lose in 155-160 but would he take fight like this?
If floyd tries to fight Canelo again, the fight will not be at 152, it will be 157-160. Canelo would have more leverage then he did in the 1st fight IMO.
WHo knows though. Floyd may just keep all fights in house (MP or PBC) and fight Danny/thurman winner and retire.
I think boxing needs Floyd to fight Canelo again and lose. Canelo is the biggest name in the sport right now but the image most fans have of him is getting shutout by Floyd and ducking GGG. Not a good look.
I don't know if boxing needs a floyd/Manny rematch. You have to convince people that Manny is going to show up and fight like the Manny fans are used to. I doubt many people believe he actually will given what has transpired since then.
I know doehard Manny fans will try and spin it differently but even they know the deal.
it would be good for boxing if Floyd lose to Canelo ,but i daubt if Floyd Care about boxing (ofc he dont need to i dont hate him or something )i think in this situation Floyd lose in 155-160 but would he take fight like this?
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