so Trump has two trials coming up, one for Trump University and the other for raping a 13 year old girl
He should get Hillary to defend him. She's good at getting rapists off the hook.
Also, I'm voting independent haha.
Lmfao you're voting for someone under federal investigation for president. You are the definition of clown and I don't even like troll_survivor. gtfoh
so Trump has two trials coming up, one for Trump University and the other for raping a 13 year old girl
Such an emotional little biiitch.
First of all I didn't post it you fckn idiot its my signature.
Second, yeah Geale is garbage and always has been garbage. Just like the MW division. Have you seen his last fight FFS?
Clown? lol is that your new favorite word to use after your god gaylovekin used it?
Lmfao you're voting for someone under federal investigation for president. You are the definition of clown and I don't even like troll_survivor. gtfoh
It's amazing what people bring up and call a HOF resume these days. Frankly, I'm stupefied by what some, even lots, would call clear HOFers now.
A good example is Sexy Sergio Martinez. He literally fought no one from '97 until '09 apart from the KO loss to Margs and the Cintron debacle. Literally no one else worth mentioning in the entire 8 years. A good, albeit brief, champion, a late bloomer and a really great guy for the sport. Yet, if you actually look at his resume and what he achieved, considering the amount of people that would call him a clear, first ballot HOFer and one of the great middleweights of our times, it makes you realise why quite a few people might actually think having Trout, Lara and Cotto equals a HOF resume these days.
Hey, if Williams, Pavlik, Barker, and Dzinziruk, are what equal a clear first ballot HOFer and great middleweight now, then why the hell not for Mosley, Lara, Trout and Cotto? I suppose you could add domestic level contenders like Murray and Macklin or Chavez Jr.
But seriously, they are the only champions that Martinez ever beat. 4 in all, with only 1 current champion (pavlik) and only 2 middleweight champions (Pavlik and Barker). Barker and Williams were very brief champs without any defenses and Dzinzruk was a titlist at a lower weight. I'm not calling Chavez Jr a champion, when it was Martinez' own belt that he won, never lost, then for some reason had to refight for against a guy that never won it.
When this becomes the level of supposedly 'obvious' HOFer then nothing surprises me anymore.
What you said is what I was thinking lol
"Geale? lol he chose not to get up. Macklin was due to a body shot."
You word for word. That's you trying to discount a one punch KO by claiming it was to the body as a neg. Then you post a pic of another body punch KO. But let's accept you didn't mention it that way.
What makes you say Geale wasn't a top 10 guy? He was a 2 time middleweight champ and was ranked as top 10 by just about everyone in the sport at 160. The same goes for Macklin and Murray. Heck, even Stevenson (which I thought was bs). The only top 10 legit guy GGG didn't get a hold of was Barker and Sturm. Barker was injured and Sturm ran.
Plus, you're going to mention quality and then post a KO of Liam ****ing Smith?
Like I said, you're a clown, a liar and in all honesty, not worth my time.
Such an emotional little biiitch.
First of all I didn't post it you fckn idiot its my signature.
Second, yeah Geale is garbage and always has been garbage. Just like the MW division. Have you seen his last fight FFS?
Clown? lol is that your new favorite word to use after your god gaylovekin used it?
It would be a big win but not make him an ATG. To become an atg you have to be great in your own era. That means ducking nobody, fighting the best at there best when the opportunity is there, and be dominating over the guys you fought. There are certain exceptions, mainly to the dominating criterion.
Ohh so nobody is ATG. I understand.
It would be a big win but not make him an ATG. To become an atg you have to be great in your own era. That means ducking nobody, fighting the best at there best when the opportunity is there, and be dominating over the guys you fought. There are certain exceptions, mainly to the dominating criterion.
all these wins are over All time Greats GGG would be a damn good win for Canelo but GGG is not in those fighters class
You're fixated on where GGG will be ranked in history but that's not how great wins are ranked.
Im pretty sure he is ,i will check it out later,but Gatti have no better wins Then Canelo.and Ginger is more popular.
Ward is in the NJ hall of fame, not the IBHOF. While Canelo is popular, Gatti was more beloved
why not?
Marquez beat Pacquiao for size, he was always taller, think he had a longer reach too. Plus it was largely accepted that JMM had beaten him the last time Pac had faced him at welterweight. Plus it was widely acknowledged by the time that Pacquiao was no longer as fearsome.
it's a great win and currently the best win of this decade but if Canelo can beat a guy who is bigger, longer, hits harder and breaks bones by KO, especially a dominant KO, then I don't see how it's not a bigger or better win.
I know GGG isn't Pacquiao but dimensions are important. The 3 best wins of the decade so far have to be:
JMM over Pac
Fury over Wlad
May over Pac
At the very least, a KO of GGG sends Canelo over the bottom 2.
all these wins are over All time Greats GGG would be a damn good win for Canelo but GGG is not in those fighters class
He isn't in the hall of fame. Gatti is
Im pretty sure he is ,i will check it out later,but Gatti have no better wins Then Canelo.and Ginger is more popular.
Yeah that's the mentality we need to have, since they put less deserving people in let's just continue that trend. SMH
Fans dont put guys in HoF lol so i just state a fact
Can you Tell me best micky Ward wins, thats right his Hofer ,Canelo wins and popularity gives him HoF if he retire now LMAO
Yeah that's the mentality we need to have, since they put less deserving people in let's just continue that trend. SMH
And I think you meant Gatti. I don't think Micky Ward is in the hall of fame
If nelo beats GGG it wont make him an atg. But if nelo continues to win against oppiknents not quite as good as ggg for the remainder of hius career, with a few more losses, he could end up as one.
With GGG his signature win and best win. The one people point to in making a case for nelo being one.
Basically GGG could be below best ever win. Most likely will be. I doubt nelo will beat anyone better
Never said it wasn't an example. Just not a top 10 guy. Show me Golovkin 1 punching KO'ing guys who are worth a damn. Geale who was KO'd by Cotto not really impressive.
"Geale? lol he chose not to get up. Macklin was due to a body shot."
You word for word. That's you trying to discount a one punch KO by claiming it was to the body as a neg. Then you post a pic of another body punch KO. But let's accept you didn't mention it that way.
What makes you say Geale wasn't a top 10 guy? He was a 2 time middleweight champ and was ranked as top 10 by just about everyone in the sport at 160. The same goes for Macklin and Murray. Heck, even Stevenson (which I thought was bs). The only top 10 legit guy GGG didn't get a hold of was Barker and Sturm. Barker was injured and Sturm ran.
Plus, you're going to mention quality and then post a KO of Liam ****ing Smith?
Like I said, you're a clown, a liar and in all honesty, not worth my time.
No way in hell...lol
why not?
Marquez beat Pacquiao for size, he was always taller, think he had a longer reach too. Plus it was largely accepted that JMM had beaten him the last time Pac had faced him at welterweight. Plus it was widely acknowledged by the time that Pacquiao was no longer as fearsome.
it's a great win and currently the best win of this decade but if Canelo can beat a guy who is bigger, longer, hits harder and breaks bones by KO, especially a dominant KO, then I don't see how it's not a bigger or better win.
I know GGG isn't Pacquiao but dimensions are important. The 3 best wins of the decade so far have to be:
JMM over Pac
Fury over Wlad
May over Pac
At the very least, a KO of GGG sends Canelo over the bottom 2.
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