Pound For Pound Rankings!!!

I had Kovalev at #2 before there fight, that has to be the best win anyone has accomplished in the last three years (esp since Floyd retired), you don't see other P4P fighters fighting other P4P fighters true..but don't you factor in the controversial nature of that win? im not saying he lost, im saying its debatable..so to be fair ward should be 1a and kovalev 1b..until the rematch puts some separation between them. .or you can make the case kovalev is 1a because his win over hopkins (11-8-14) is more impressive than barrera, rodriguez, smith and brand combined. ..50 year old bhop would probably beat all four of those guys in one night.

from novermber 16, 2013 - november 19, 2016 ward's resume: rodriguez, smith, barrera, brand, kovalev(?) if you're gonna put a question mark over garcias victories over peterson and herrera just because they were close and debatable, same has to be done for ward's win against kovalev. so in three years ward has defeated four guys not on his level and one elite guy in controversial fashion..is that really p4p #1 material? .. ward is only #1 if you factor in his resume going all the way back to the super six. .using your "only last 3 years" rule, ward is arguably not even in the top five. I had Kovalev at #2 before there fight, that has to be the best win anyone has accomplished in the last three years (esp since Floyd retired), you don't see other P4P fighters fighting other P4P fighters

I look at resume from the last 6 fights, and only if there within the last 3 years, Pacquaio's last 6 fights have bean : Vargas W, Bradley W, Mayweather L, Algeri W, Bradley W, Rios W : other than Bradley he hasn't beaten top comepetition Garcia's last 6 fights have been : Vargas W, Gurrero W, Malinaggi W, Peterson W(?), Salka W, Herrera W(?) Only one good win and it was debatable if he won from novermber 16, 2013 - november 19, 2016 ward's resume: rodriguez, smith, barrera, brand, kovalev(?) if you're gonna put a question mark over garcias victories over peterson and herrera just because they were close and debatable, same has to be done for ward's win against kovalev. so in three years ward has defeated four guys not on his level and one elite guy in controversial fashion..is that really p4p #1 material? .. ward is only #1 if you factor in his resume going all the way back to the super six. .using your "only last 3 years" rule, ward is arguably not even in the top five.

resume wise pacquiao is hands down p4p #1..only resume you can put next to his is hopkins. resume p4p 1. pac 2. bhop 3. ward 4. danny 5. kovalev most ppl don't just go by resume, they factor in how good and dominant the boxer looked in previous performance. with that lomachenko is #1. resume skill set willingness to take risks previous performance all these things must be factored in. if you mesh all those things together lomachenko has a strong case to be #1. I look at resume from the last 6 fights, and only if there within the last 3 years, Pacquaio's last 6 fights have bean : Vargas W, Bradley W, Mayweather L, Algeri W, Bradley W, Rios W : other than Bradley he hasn't beaten top comepetition Garcia's last 6 fights have been : Vargas W, Gurrero W, Malinaggi W, Peterson W(?), Salka W, Herrera W(?) Only one good win and it was debatable if he won

thanks bro, I look at resume before anything else resume wise pacquiao is hands down p4p #1..only resume you can put next to his is hopkins. resume p4p 1. pac 2. bhop 3. ward 4. danny 5. kovalev most ppl don't just go by resume, they factor in how good and dominant the boxer looked in previous performance. with that lomachenko is #1. resume skill set willingness to take risks previous performance all these things must be factored in. if you mesh all those things together lomachenko has a strong case to be #1.

Overall a good list. Certainly better than those that have Lomachenko and Golovkin in the top 3. :rofl: thanks bro, I look at resume before anything else

Pacquiao isn't Lineal welter anymore. He retired after Bradley fight and that title is now vacant.

Bellew should be #3 He needs more wins to be that high

P4P 1. M. Pacquaio 58-6-2(38) (147) Lineal 2. R. Gonzalez 46-0(38) (112) WBC, Ring, Lineal | (115) WBC 3. G. Rigondeaux 17-0(11) (122) WBA (Super), Lineal 4. A. Ward 30-0(15) (175) 5. C. Alvarez 48-1-1(34) (154) WBO | (160) Ring, Lineal 6. S. Kovalev 30-0-1(26) (175) WBA (Super), WBO, IBF 7. T. Crawford 29-0(20) (140) WBC, WBO, Ring, Lineal 8. W. Klitschko 64-4(53) (201+) 9. C. Frampton 23-0(14) (126) WBA (Super) 10. G. Golovkin 36-0(33) (160) WBC, WBA (Super), IBF, IBO 11. A. Stevenson 28-1(23) (175) WBC, Ring, Lineal 12. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13) (147) 13. D. Garcia 32-0(18) (147) WBC 14. K. Thurman 27-0(22) (147) WBA (World) 15. V. Lomachenko 6-1(4) (130) WBO 16. E. Lara 23-2-2(13) (154) WBA (Super) 17. N. Walters 26-0-1(21) (130) 18. D. Lebedev 29-2-1(22) (200) WBA (Super), IBF 19. J. Linares 41-3(27) (135) WBA, WBC (Diamond), Ring, Lineal 20. N. Inoue 11-0(9) (115) WBO 21. N. Donaire 37-3(24) (122) WBO 22. L. Santa Cruz 32-1-1(18) (126) 23. S. Porter 26-2-1(16) (147) 24. A. Broner 32-2(24) (140) 25. A. Povetkin 30-1(22) (201+) 201+ 1. W. Klitschko 64-4(53) 2. A. Povektin 30-1(22) 3. D. Wilder 37-0(36) WBC 4. A. Joshua 17-0(17) IBF 5. K. Pulev 23-1(12) EBU 6. J. Parker 21-0(18) WBO Oriental 7. L. Ortiz 25-0(22) WBA (Interim) 8. D. Haye 28-2(26) 9. M. Scott 38-2-1(13) 10. L. Browne 24-0(21) 176-200 1. D. Lebedev 29-2(22) WBA (Super), IBF 2. G. Drozd 40-1(27) 3. O. Usyk 10-0(9) WBO 4. M. Huck 39-3-1(27) IBO 5. K. Glowchki 26-1(16) 6. T. Bellew 27-2-1(17) WBC 7. M. Briedis 21-0(18) WBC Silver 8. S. Cunningham 28-8(13) 9. Y. Dorticos 21-0(20) WBA (Interim) 10. I. Makabu 19-2(18) 169-175 1. S. Kovalev 30-0-1(26) WBA (Super), WBO, IBF 2. A. Ward 30-0(15) 3. A. Stevenson 28-1(23) WBC, Lineal 4. E. Alvarez 20-0(10) WBC Silver 5. J. Smith Jr 22-1(18) WBC International 6. V. Sharbansky 17-0(14) 7. O. Gvozdyk 11-0(9) NABF 8. A. Beteriev 10-0(10) NABA 9. N. Cleverly 30-3(16) WBA (World) 10. T. Williams Jr 20-2(14) 161-168 1. B. Jack 20-1-2(12) WBC 2. J. DeGale 23-1(14) IBF 3. G. Ramirez 34-0(24) WBO 4. G. Groves 24-3(18) WBA International 5. C. Smith 21-0(16) WBC Silver 6. A. Abraham 45-5(30) WBO International 7. Anthony Dirrell 29-1-1(23) 8. R. Quinlan 11-1(7) IBO 9. L. Bute 32-3-1(25) 10. F. Strum 40-5-1(18) WBA (Super) 155-160 1. G. Golovkin 36-0(33) WBC, WBA (Super), IBF, IBO 2. D. Jacobs 32-1(29) WBA (Regular) 3. B. Saunders 23-0(12) WBO 4. A. Lee 34-3-1(21) 5. C. Eubank Jr. 23-1(18) British 6. J. Heiland 27-4(14) WBC International 7. P. Quillin 32-1-1(23) 8. D. Lemiux 35-3(32) NABO 9. S. Derevyanchenko 9-0(7) 10. A. Khurtsidze 32-2-1(21) WBO International 148-154 1. C. Alvarez 48-1-1(34) WBO 2. E. Lara 23-2-2(13) WBA (Super), IBO 3. Jermall Charlo 24-0(18) IBF 4. M. Cotto 40-5(33) 5. Jermell Charlo 28-0(13) WBC 6. D. Andrade 22-0(15) 7. V. Martirosyan 36-3-1(21) 8. J. Williams 22-0-1(14) WBC Americas 9. L. Smith 23-1-1(13) 10. A. Trout 30-3(17) 141-147 1. M. Pacquaio 58-6-2(38) Lineal 2. K. Thurman 27-0(22) WBA (Regular) 3. T. Bradley 33-2-1(13) 4. K. Brook 36-1(25) IBF 5. D. Garcia 32-0(18) WBC 6. S. Porter 26-2-1(16) 7. J. Vargas 27-1(10) WBO 8. A. Khan 31-4(19) 9. E. Spence Jr. 21-0(18) 10.(tied)L. Peterson 34-3-1(17) 10.(tied)F. Diaz 18-1(8) 136-140 1. T. Crawford 29-0(20) WBC, WBO, Ring, Lineal 2. A. Broner 32-2(24) 3. V. Postol 28-1(12) 4. E. Troyanvsky 25-0(22) IBF 5. L. Matthysse 37-4(34) 6. O. Figuera Jr. 26-0-1(18) 7. A. Grandos 17-4-2(12) 8. R. Burns 41-5-1(13) WBA (Super) 9. J. Benvadis 25-0(16) 10. J. Molina Jr 29-6(23) WBO International 131-135 1. J. Linares 41-3(27) WBA (Super), WBC (Diamond), Ring, Lineal 2. R. Barthelemy 25-0(13) 3. A. Crolla 31-5-3(13) 4. R. Easter Jr. 18-0(14) IBF 5. M. Bey 22-2-1(10) 6. T. Flangan 31-0(12) WBO 7. Y. Mendy 35-4-1(17) EBU 8. R. Commey 24-1(23) 9. J. Fortuna 30-1-1(22) 10. F. Verdejo 22-0(15) WBO Latino 127-130 1. J. Corrales 20-1(8) WBA (Super) 2. J. Pedraza 22-0(12) IBF 3. J. Sosa 19-1-4(15) WBA (World) 4. F. Vargas 23-0-2(17) WBC 5. V. Lomachenko 6-1(4) WBO 6. N. Walters 26-0-1(21) 7. O. Salido 43-13-4(30) 8. T. Uchiyama 24-1-1(20) 9. T. Miura 30-3-2(23) 10. R. Martinez 29-3-3(17) 123-126 1. C. Frampton 23-0(14) WBA (Super) 2. G. Russell Jr. 27-1(16) WBC 3. L. Santa Cruz 32-1-1(18) 4. L. Selby 23-1(8) IBF 5. J. Lara 28-0-2(20) 6. O. Valdez 20-0(18) WBO 7. J. Diaz 22-0(13) NABF 8. J. Cuellar 28-1(21) WBA (World) 9. J. Warrington 24-0(5) WBC International 10. L. Komanisi 20-3(17) IBO 119-122 1. G. Rigondeaux 17-0(11) WBA (Super), Lineal 2. N. Donaire 37-3(24) WBO 3. J. Guzman 22-0(22) IBF 4. C. Juarez 18-5(14) WBO Intercontinental 5. H. Hasegawa 36-5(16) WBC 6. M. Flores 25-0(17) WBA (Interim), IBO 7. S. Quigg 31-1-2(23) 8. R. Vargas 28-0(22) WBC International 9. Y. Oguni 18-1-1(7) Japanese 10. Y. Ishimoto 29-8(8) Japanese (Interim) Bellew should be #3

this is the nsb pfp list http://i.imgur.com/aiyjQQk.png I don't have Gonzalez at 1, and I don't have Golovkin or Kovaelv at the top 5

this is the nsb pfp list http://i.imgur.com/aiyjQQk.png

What is your time frame cutoff? It must be pretty long if Ward is #1. Hard to place Canelo as well. It's hard to tell where he stands against guys his own size given the 155 nonsense, so it's even less clear where he stands p4p. Haha. I won't hate, man. I've done long posts, too. They take a long time and effort. Good job. I have one thing, though. Until he faces Kovalev, Roman is above Ward. He never took a long layoff and he's been consistently beating the best guys in his divisions and in his last fight he beat the number two guy who was 35-0-1 in a division he'd never fought in. Until November 19, you gotta go with Roman. Pacquiao should be 1 because lets be honest ward aint done **** since he won the super6 if he beats kovalev then hell be ranked 2. You guys right, I'll be dropping Ward in the Rankings

Bro...I'm digging all your posts, good boxing sense & knowledge...I totally agree with you. Also a shout out to Mr Sadig-king-of-ko. for doing the rankings. thanks brother

Today I learned that Kell Brook is not a top 25 P4P fighter.

Haha. I won't hate, man. I've done long posts, too. They take a long time and effort. Good job. I have one thing, though. Until he faces Kovalev, Roman is above Ward. He never took a long layoff and he's been consistently beating the best guys in his divisions and in his last fight he beat the number two guy who was 35-0-1 in a division he'd never fought in. Until November 19, you gotta go with Roman. Bro...I'm digging all your posts, good boxing sense & knowledge...I totally agree with you. Also a shout out to Mr Sadig-king-of-ko. for doing the rankings.

Pacquiao should be 1 because lets be honest ward aint done **** since he won the super6 if he beats kovalev then hell be ranked 2.

What is your time frame cutoff? It must be pretty long if Ward is #1. Hard to place Canelo as well. It's hard to tell where he stands against guys his own size given the 155 nonsense, so it's even less clear where he stands p4p.

What are your criteria?

Please guys not too much hate, it took me 2 hours