Disclaimer: what he did was phenomenal. He overcame cancer and established himself as a top middleweight. I have nothing but respect for Jacobs and the obstacles he's overcome. BUT......
After obliterating Peter Quillin in one round, the cancer excuse is off the table. This dude can fight and is at the top of his game.
Let's look at the reality of the situation. He has a meaningless WBA participation ribbon, and is basically the mandatory challenger to fight one of the five best fighters in the world in a fight that will sell out any venue in NY within hours.
Jacobs has an opportunity that you dream about as a kid in the boxing gym, with a pair of gloves bigger than your head and your tank top down to your knees. A win would make him legendary. He will be one of the biggest stars in boxing.
This is Jacobs MayweatherCorralles, PAC/Barrera, Rigo/Donaire moment. Why is he creating these barriers to achieve greatness? Trying to change the WBA rule book? Demanding crazy money? Dude, you a challenger getting challenger pay cuts. You gotta earn the big pay days.!!!!
I don't think Jacobs gives two flying f.ucks what people on a Internet forum think about what we think he got offered, he and his team know the real number
And I'm just going from the actual video that I saw not the article written on Boxing scene, and he acknowledges that a offer was made for roughly the same as Peter Quillen
In the same interview he said "kinda close" to what Quillin got him. Also said he's not gonna go overboard and ask for 10m lol. If that's your reference point, 2.5m is kinda close, and just about 2 Quillins
Nice poll, it has to be one of the 4 options listed, though I'm not 100% sure about which one it is. However, Jacobs doesn't seem to be particularly excited about getting the opportunity he has been presented with. He is getting the chance to become a unified world champion and #1 middleweight in the world, with the guarantee of huge paydays in the future if he wins, all things that you would think would be every boxers' childhood dream.
Jacobs' has not pursued this fight since winning the WBA regular belt in 2014 and since then has been vague about what it would take to get him to fight Golovkin. Whenever he talks about it, it seems like he sees it as a chore which he must be compensated for, rather than an opportunity for him and his opponent to elevate themselves.
We will know his reasons as the October 22 deadline gets closer.
Why is he guaranteed huge paydays if he wins and becomes unified champ. He wins 1 fight and is all of a sudden a legit fighter. Golovkin fought for years to become unified champion and people consider him a bum and he still isnt guaranteed huge paydays...
Its funny, because Quillin was about to be KOed by Gabe Rosado before landing a lucky punch that opened the cut that stopped the fight. He dodged the bullet there.
Then if Rosado would have gotten the victory he was going to get, and Jacobs fought Rosado, would people be singing the praises of Rosado?
Most likely not.
But Quillin, who was on the verge of getting KOed by Rosado, who then vacated his belt to avoid Korobov, and escaped by the skin of his teeth with a draw against Andy Lee is the best fighter on either's resume.
Willie Monroe beat Gabe Rosado far more convincingly than Quillen did, does that make him Quillins equal?
The same Quillin that was outboxed by N'Dam, who looked like garbage vs Luka Konecny (who ever that is, Im sure you remember his lackluster tuneup fight).
When did Quillin become so highly regarded? lol.
But quillin has a legit resume doe. He's from ny.
Really, misinterpreted? Wouldn't Danny deny it on twitter or something? It's been quoted 100s of times. How do you misinterpret this?
‘Wait a second. I could fight two Peter Quillins and make the same thing.’
I don't think Jacobs gives two flying f.ucks what people on a Internet forum think about what we think he got offered, he and his team know the real number
And I'm just going from the actual video that I saw not the article written on Boxing scene, and he acknowledges that a offer was made for roughly the same as Peter Quillen
Its funny, because Quillin was about to be KOed by Gabe Rosado before landing a lucky punch that opened the cut that stopped the fight. He dodged the bullet there.
Then if Rosado would have gotten the victory he was going to get, and Jacobs fought Rosado, would people be singing the praises of Rosado?
Most likely not.
But Quillin, who was on the verge of getting KOed by Rosado, who then vacated his belt to avoid Korobov, and escaped by the skin of his teeth with a draw against Andy Lee is the best fighter on either's resume.
Willie Monroe beat Gabe Rosado far more convincingly than Quillen did, does that make him Quillins equal?
The same Quillin that was outboxed by N'Dam, who looked like garbage vs Luka Konecny (who ever that is, Im sure you remember his lackluster tuneup fight).
When did Quillin become so highly regarded? lol.
And that cut was absolutely not worth stopping the fight over. They were clearly happy to end that fight right there because Rosado very well could have won.
This idea that Quillin is better than anyone Golovkin's fought is nonsense. People just say that because he was one of the few top middleweights Golovkin never got in the ring from that 2012-2015 time period. It was easy to hype him up since he was ducking. Quillin never showed anything in the ring to suggest he was better than Macklin, Murray, Geale, or Lemieux. Hell, he was worse than some of them, probably.
No. Quillin was garbage before getting KOd. Everyone knew that except the dudes who only liked Quillin for being Black. Quillin was never anything special. Murray and Macklin would beat him and probably Rubio and Lemiuex as well.
Its funny, because Quillin was about to be KOed by Gabe Rosado before landing a lucky punch that opened the cut that stopped the fight. He dodged the bullet there.
Then if Rosado would have gotten the victory he was going to get, and Jacobs fought Rosado, would people be singing the praises of Rosado?
Most likely not.
But Quillin, who was on the verge of getting KOed by Rosado, who then vacated his belt to avoid Korobov, and escaped by the skin of his teeth with a draw against Andy Lee is the best fighter on either's resume.
Willie Monroe beat Gabe Rosado far more convincingly than Quillen did, does that make him Quillins equal?
The same Quillin that was outboxed by N'Dam, who looked like garbage vs Luka Konecny (who ever that is, Im sure you remember his lackluster tuneup fight).
When did Quillin become so highly regarded? lol.
Cool, thanks for your opinion man
I think the writer misinterepted the actual video interview Jacobs did. What Jacobs said was why would I fight Gennady when I get the same too fight Quillen, Not why would I fight him for 2 Quillens. ( Side note love how it's just 1 or 2 Quilkens not actual numbers ) This 2 Quillen non sense is just repeated by the Gennady faithful to make it seem like K2 actually want the fight when in reality they offered him less then 1 Quillen knowing itd be turned down. Kind of like Canelo offered Gennady a flat fee it was a offer but it wasn't done in good faith and couldn't be expected to get accepted
At the end of the day Jacobs is probably Gennadys biggest challenge at MW and K2 would rather play hardball in hopes of not getting the fight done then to negotiate over what 5-8%
Which makes me think your Ok with Canelo team doing the same to Gennady am I right. I guess who ever is A-side gets to Jew f.uck the b-side. Truth is if you want the fight the A-side only gets to Jew f:uck a bit not go full retard
Really, misinterpreted? Wouldn't Danny deny it on twitter or something? It's been quoted 100s of times. How do you misinterpret this?
‘Wait a second. I could fight two Peter Quillins and make the same thing.’
Realistically, this is probably Jacobs strategy at the moment.
Avoid the GGG fight, try and not get stripped. Secure a fight with Saunders, (which is much more winnable for him) and also a fight that Saunders would sooner take than a GGG fight.
Make a few defenses of Saunders belt, then cash out on GGG at a later date.
If I was managing him that's the direction I'd be steering him in just from a potential earnings and career longevity standpoint.
I think when Jacobs was running his mouth he was expecting one of two things to happen.
GGG would come to a deal with Canelo, or GGG would come to a deal with Saunders.
I don't think he expected GGG to turn to him.
They means both.
You're putting all this on Jacobs like you've been eating dogs like the rest of the haters.:lol1:
This ain't launching him anywhere...if/when he beats ggg THERE IS NOTHING LEFT AT 160
He's the challenger and trying to act like the champion in negotiations.
that's because you're not that bright.
Cool, thanks for your opinion man
Why would you think that? You saw the interview with Jacobs saying hed rather fight 2 Quillins for the money offered, cause in his mind it's a super mega fight.
How do you play hardball when you're a mandatory challenger, way less popular then the 3 belt champ, due 25% at the purse bid?
I think the writer misinterepted the actual video interview Jacobs did. What Jacobs said was why would I fight Gennady when I get the same too fight Quillen, Not why would I fight him for 2 Quillens. ( Side note love how it's just 1 or 2 Quilkens not actual numbers ) This 2 Quillen non sense is just repeated by the Gennady faithful to make it seem like K2 actually want the fight when in reality they offered him less then 1 Quillen knowing itd be turned down. Kind of like Canelo offered Gennady a flat fee it was a offer but it wasn't done in good faith and couldn't be expected to get accepted
At the end of the day Jacobs is probably Gennadys biggest challenge at MW and K2 would rather play hardball in hopes of not getting the fight done then to negotiate over what 5-8%
Which makes me think your Ok with Canelo team doing the same to Gennady am I right. I guess who ever is A-side gets to Jew f.uck the b-side. Truth is if you want the fight the A-side only gets to Jew f:uck a bit not go full retard
Because this is 2nd BIGGEST fight you can make at MIDDLE weight ....GGG does not deserve 3times more the pay then jacobs
*jacobs has Quillin which is better then anyone on ggg resume
* jacobs will easly be the most dangrious on ggg resume
*jacobs would easly as well knock out everyone ggg faced
* GGG brings the belt BUT only won one IN the ring
point is ggg should get the lion share of the pie but ggg needs this fight (maybe even more) as much as jacobs need it
25% can be the biggest purse OR the smallist purse of his career ggg should give more of a % to jacobs he himself really need this fight too
No. Quillin was garbage before getting KOd. Everyone knew that except the dudes who only liked Quillin for being Black. Quillin was never anything special. Murray and Macklin would beat him and probably Rubio and Lemiuex as well.
He isn't afraid
It's all negotiating from both ends
K2 / Team Jacobs both playing Hardball, I honestly don't think K2 want the fight
Why would you think that? You saw the interview with Jacobs saying hed rather fight 2 Quillins for the money offered, cause in his mind it's a super mega fight.
How do you play hardball when you're a mandatory challenger, way less popular then the 3 belt champ, due 25% at the purse bid?
He isn't afraid
It's all negotiating from both ends
K2 / Team Jacobs both playing Hardball, I honestly don't think K2 want the fight
that's because you're not that bright.
They means both.
You're putting all this on Jacobs like you've been eating dogs like the rest of the haters.:lol1:
This ain't launching him anywhere...if/when he beats ggg THERE IS NOTHING LEFT AT 160there's cuntnelo you dumbass which if Jacobs somehow beat ggg would be a huge ppv fight for all the belts and jacobs would earn even more money.jacobs would absolutely become a star if he were to beat the monster.
Because this is 2nd BIGGEST fight you can make at MIDDLE weight ....GGG does not deserve 3times more the pay then jacobs
*jacobs has Quillin which is better then anyone on ggg resume
* jacobs will easly be the most dangrious on ggg resume
*jacobs would easly as well knock out everyone ggg faced
* GGG brings the belt BUT only won one IN the ring
point is ggg should get the lion share of the pie but ggg needs this fight (maybe even more) as much as jacobs need it
25% can be the biggest purse OR the smallist purse of his career ggg should give more of a % to jacobs he himself really need this fight too
That's what happens when you won't agree to a good faith deal, it gets sent to purse bids with a fixed split. Everybody knows the rules, including this guy:
‘Wait a second. I could fight two Peter Quillins and make the same thing.’