Vargas is going to knock Pacquiao out

PAc is a volume puncher; punches in bunches with high velocity and speed, also has power. No defense. To beat this guy one needs to be either a harder volume puncher than him, or be a counter puncher with good defense. Never watched Vargas, don't know if he can. Thats how Morales beat him, he was a better volume puncher that Pac had to eat all those shots bcz had no defense. Thats how Marquez outboxed and KO'd him and Floyd outboxed him, by being a counter-puncher with good defense. Thats how Pac knocks all those guys and dominates them, they have no defense or countering ability to stop or avoid him. Eventually they get taken to the pieces. Hard job.

66 have tried, 60 have failed I just spit out some juice all over my keyboard. Well played.

so, no one is putting real money on the line with this vargas beats pac thing ? :lol1: nope, it's just all talk. It's like when people say things just in case by some miracle it happens so they can say "See I told you"

If Pac loses this fight then he definitely need to pack it in.

id pick alcherry to beat vargas. even khan. lol @ 'alcherry'. I like that name. I'd pick Vargas to beat Algieri, but it would actually have been a reasonable fight imo if not for the Pac-Vargas fight getting made.

Any chance of this being the fight were regardless of the result everyone will say that Manny is trying to stay in the business too long?

Vargas knocked out Sadam Ali and nobody saw that coming. Who knows, there have been rumors of ped use by Vargas but I don't put too much stock into that. Vargas obviously has some sort of power because he wobbled Bradley and knocked out Sadam Ali. Either Vargas is going to knock Pac out or Pac wins a very dominant UD. Don't think Pac has much left in him imo. Vargas is young, prime, and skilled.

........... Lol all my quotes from this thread went over your head. That one, however, is true. That said, guys like Margarito, Mosley, Oscar, hadn't bounced back and never did.

hes fighting a young hungry lion. they tried to cherry pick statue fighters like broner and garcia but unfortunately for them they were insulted at the 4 million dollars. vargas is just too big and agressive for little pac. an unfortunate end to a great career. it will be like ray vs norris or ali vs berbick. I'm a young hungry lion too! Obviously a drastic example, as I probably couldn't last more than a round against Vargas, but the same principle applies here. I don't think Vargas is at the level where he could beat Pacquiao. He can compete and make Pacquiao look bad, but it still takes a certain pedigree to beat the Pacman. I don't see it in Vargas.

A true champion can bounce back from a loss

It sounds like you have it all figured out with one small problem. YOU ARE WRONG! Vargas is nothing special at all and not in even a very old and well past prime Pacquiao's class. Pacquiao beat Bradley by a wide margin. Vargas lost every round but the 12th to Bradley. Bradley is just as sure as I am that Pacquiao will be an easy winner and he said so. If you are so sure Vargas will win then bet a bundle on him. Vargas is a big underdog with the bookmakers as well he should be.

Never even heard of him (Vaguely) until the now. WHO WILL WIN? PAC THE HUGE LEGEND. The other guy no one even knows his name at all except the most deep set boxing junkies! John Wilkinson for MANNY PACQUIAO.

66 have tried, 60 have failed

I agree Pacquiao should've stayed retired, but I don't think Vargas will knock him out. hes fighting a young hungry lion. they tried to cherry pick statue fighters like broner and garcia but unfortunately for them they were insulted at the 4 million dollars. vargas is just too big and agressive for little pac. an unfortunate end to a great career. it will be like ray vs norris or ali vs berbick.

I agree Pacquiao should've stayed retired, but I don't think Vargas will knock him out.

left hook to the spleen should put pac away

Check my bet thread guys, I have Manny stopping Vargas

It's like I said before, he can bring the pressure, he can bring the pain When they touch gloves, Pac is getting knocked out cold.

It's like I said before, he can bring the pressure, he can bring the pain

I reckon it'll be a touch jab to out Manny away.