This is me and Slick_Ricks conversation on GGG vs Jones
GGG has some real die hard fans but really, what has he done, and who has he defeated to illustrated that he could beat a prime Jones from 160-175, let alone beat a heavyweight, John Ruiz?
Originally Posted by therealpugilist View Post
John Ruiz at heavyweight hits a lot harder than GGG.....so does tarver and he took both their shots past prime and at 175 or higher
sorry bro...GGG isnt knocking out a prime Jones who only got dropped 1 time before age 35 and that was against a 175er
great timing against who? GGG has not fought an elite slick boxer or defensive fighter with quick reflexes so......
Slick_Ricks reply
You are thinking too simplistic. They might be bigger then GGG, but you are failing to take into account the angles and the connection of impact of the punches. Many of GGG sparring partners says he hits like a LHW.
Ruiz is one of the worst HW champions in recent history. GGG is a much better boxer then him. I would even favor GGG against him, stopping him, in fact.
Tarver was a very good boxer but i would still say GGG has the more talented offense.
If Jones makes it to the end of the 12, he wins, but i just dont think he will make it...
who agrees, and what are your thoughts.....GGG fighting a heavyweight when these guys say he is too small for 168? beating ATG jones and a heavyweight in Ruiz....yea right ....smh
This is me and Slick_Ricks conversation on GGG vs Jones
GGG has some real die hard fans but really, what has he done, and who has he defeated to illustrated that he could beat a prime Jones from 160-175, let alone beat a heavyweight, John Ruiz?
Originally Posted by therealpugilist View Post
John Ruiz at heavyweight hits a lot harder than GGG.....so does tarver and he took both their shots past prime and at 175 or higher
sorry bro...GGG isnt knocking out a prime Jones who only got dropped 1 time before age 35 and that was against a 175er
great timing against who? GGG has not fought an elite slick boxer or defensive fighter with quick reflexes so......
Slick_Ricks reply
You are thinking too simplistic. They might be bigger then GGG, but you are failing to take into account the angles and the connection of impact of the punches. Many of GGG sparring partners says he hits like a LHW.
Ruiz is one of the worst HW champions in recent history. GGG is a much better boxer then him. I would even favor GGG against him, stopping him, in fact.
Tarver was a very good boxer but i would still say GGG has the more talented offense.
If Jones makes it to the end of the 12, he wins, but i just dont think he will make it...
who agrees, and what are your thoughts.....GGG fighting a heavyweight when these guys say he is too small for 168? beating ATG jones and a heavyweight in Ruiz....yea right ....smh
I agree 100% with the storyteller
yeah he would look like david tua lmao. too bad tua never fought ruiz!
Are you actually trying to say that a HW version of Golovkin equates to David Tua or are you joking?
Because I know that you're retarded but you also like telling jokes so I'm genuinely unsure which one it is.
Prime RJJ was a phenomenal boxer with great speed and reflexes. GGG would probably beat both Ruiz and Tarver into submission on the same night, but prime RJJ would be a favourite against GGG.
Ruiz, no way. Jones had the style to frustrate and beat a much bigger man in Ruiz, Golovkin doesn't. Ruiz wasn't great, but he was still a very decent world class heavyweight. Unless you're as athletic and elusive as Jones, a much smaller man isn't going to beat Ruiz, especially one who's style is to come forward and fight. I'm a Golovkin fan but you have to be realistic. Styles make fights and he would be badly hurt against a strong tough world level HW like John Ruiz.
I cant even imagine GGG in HW let alone fighting with ruiz,with GGs frame in would be hilarious.
Ruiz, no way. Jones had the style to frustrate and beat a much bigger man in Ruiz, Golovkin doesn't. Ruiz wasn't great, but he was still a very decent world class heavyweight. Unless you're as athletic and elusive as Jones, a much smaller man isn't going to beat Ruiz, especially one who's style is to come forward and fight. I'm a Golovkin fan but you have to be realistic. Styles make fights and he would be badly hurt against a strong tough world level HW like John Ruiz.
GGG is competitive with any fighter in history at middleweight
Given g string complete lack of quality opposition, how can you say that? Things like this make you a cheerleader not a boxing fan.
did I say that? NO. fuk off you trolling pathetic b1tch.
you are trolling me here,i just asked did you seen a fighter with same ammount of hype as GGG,if you dont wont to answer ,dont reply to me ,simple as that.
Agreed
First smart thing you said in the past few monthsediting people's post is pathetic and unoriginal but your a weirdo queer so I expect that from you.
So you think GGG will be HW champ ,lol you retarted ,and what top Mws he beat ,Lamule? wade? LMAO gtfo golovtard:lame:did I say that? NO. fuk off you trolling pathetic b1tch.
He didnt even beat top MWs yet,but one day i saw thread like "can ggg be HW champ",i like GGG but his myth is amazing ,have you guys seen second fighter with hype like this??are you a retard? yes you are
you arent taking into accoutn golovkins ring IQ. His ring IQ is his best attribute, better than his power. He adapts his style for the fighter, against lemiuex and curtis stevens he decided to box, aginst brook he decided to swarm and he decided to trade shots in middle of ring with willie munroe jr. If he was struggling against toney on the inside, he would box him from the outside.
GGG would never fight tarver couse he will never fight at 175,but i can see Tarver size give him a problems ,we dont know if ggg would care his power to 175 ,he is not even KOing MWs clear .
Tarver is more skilled and crafty then Lamule thats for sure m8.
^^^^this :boxing:
He didnt even beat top MWs yet,but one day i saw thread like "can ggg be HW champ",i like GGG but his myth is amazing ,have you guys seen second fighter with hype like this??
His fans say he'd beat great SMW's and LHW's, even HW's. But suggest he moves up and they'll throw 101 excuses at you, they don't believe their own **** they spew.
^^^^this :boxing: