Canelo will beat the hell out of GGG

way to edit your post fgt. :lol1: Oh you mean those tapping jabs? "6 punches to 1" which is false lmao even if it was true you forgot to leave out the fact that 1 punch made the dude collapse in pain and it ended the fight. Retard Tapping jabs can be turned into stiff head snapping jabs or a hook with no problem by someone like GGG. It just highlights the problem with canelo's defense. When he is looking for offense, its not there. He is god at moving his head and looking slick against someone who throws standard combinations, when someone is tapping him with throwaway punches, he freezes up.

This is what is going to happen Canelo is going to beat his overrated a55 and you'll do what you's did before when Marquez iced Manny then you was suddenly a Donaire fan until he got embarrassed by Rigo then GGG came along and you'll leap onto the Lomachenko train or something. Its like I said in the Donaire vs Rigo build up. Whatever HBO tells boxing fans is what they run with they don't know anything about styles and just echo what they hear as long as its what they want to hear. What is Golovkin truthfully? He's a puncher with limited skills. Very good jab, excellent at cutting a ring off, great power, at least a decent chin. Sometimes in boxing you only need to do a few things well and it can take you to the top. He's excellent at cutting a ring off I won't deny that but what does he do once he's cut the exit off? He walks straight in and doesn't move his head. Its not he wants a Street fight or lets opponents hit him he has flaws. He walks straight in, doesn't move his head and a straight will always get to the target before a wide ass hook does. He's disgustingly overrated in terms of skillset. What he can and can't do, period. What he is is an extremely effective fighter. One dimensional with 2 gears. He doesn't move his head or step off or around. He often drops his opposing hands when throwing never finishing any particular combination with anything other than a livershot. He's predictable. His punch selection is predictable. He is hunched over and wide open for anything down the middle with his come forward style the uppercuts a great weapon but its actually a set up punch & Brook is the only guy he's fought to put something behind it because these other guys have been terrified. He doesn't throw with you (1 in a million shot vs bummy Geale) and he freezes when you put more than 2 punches together and often pulls straight back with his hands low. He's stronger, he hits harder he has slightly faster feet & cuts a ring off better. They are his only advantages. Canelo has the faster hands, better combinations, better counterpuncher. Vastly superior defense and he is flat out the better inside fighter he's superior at mid range as well. Its not debatable Idc how many pundits, fans, boxers, trainers claim otherwise I have two eyes. I can see it clear as day. GGG has a punchers chance, that is all. Canelo will light him the f*ck up in the pocket. He will tool him. He will purposely fight off the ropes like he did last night. Smith wasn't backing anybody up or cutting a ring off. Canelo purposely went to the ropes. He will roll, slip those big telegraphed hooks and counter the living f*ck out the guy with blistering combinations to head and body and this one dimensional hypejob ain't gonna have a clue what day of the week it is. He is made for Canelo! He'll go a different path he won't even fight Saunders, he'll fight the weak link in Jacobs as usual. He probably beats BJS but they don't really want none of that southpaw slickness. Don't want anybody who calls their bluff and isn't petrified of him. Big drama show only the motherf*cker wants no real drama :lol1: Dan, Why did the ginger diva vacate her title and drop down to fight a no hopper like Paul Smith then? It's pretty obvious that you have more confidence in her than she does in herself.

Guess couch experts over here know more then the coward him self, guess he made a mistake dropping that belt lol

paddy power have golovkin 1/6 and canelo at 7/2 . these prices are available if the fight takes place before the end of 2017. im sure dan will be tempted by canelos odds

I'm favoring Canelo as well but I want to see him take another fighter at 160, it'll serve him well.

I've always felt like this, and want the fight to happen asap.

after the brook fight and seeing canelo sat it will be close but im sure GGG fights different. it will be a good fight either way. sadly people underrate gingers skills.

I love how you an have a gif of Canelo getting hit with 6 punches to give 1 and pretend he is slick. way to edit your post fgt. :lol1: Oh you mean those tapping jabs? "6 punches to 1" which is false lmao even if it was true you forgot to leave out the fact that 1 punch made the dude collapse in pain and it ended the fight. Retard

Anyone saying this will be easy or that Canelo is a clear favourite has basically just ignored all of the good things that GGG does, and also ignored all the flaws in Canelo imo. Maybe he has a bit of a static head (not so much against his best opponents, but ok) and he gets backed up, but his footwork is for a pressure fighter is phenomenal. Alvarez does not have the footspeed to stay away from GGG, which means he is going to have to be infront of him the whole night. Canelo is a great combination puncher so im sure he has success. He also takes way too many breaks and his defence is not as good as some would have you believe. If I had to bet I would say both guys are going to land a lot of punches, but i know who I would bet on being the more durable in a MW fight, and thats GGG.

mark my words! ... dan_cov, dear: Do you actually count these guys' "punch stats"??? :) Canelo is throwing/landing significantly below GGG !!! ... but wait! Do you think a 40+ of age GGG will will actually fight Canelo??? OK, then... :) :) :)

I still favour Golovkin. It's a competitive fight, and one we need to see IMO. I think it goes the distance, but Golovkin wins.

Lemieux can crack but landed utterly nothing. Stevens has great power at a lower level and landing hardly anything apart from one combination. The guys who have been able to hit with regularity have been feather-fisted or very small or a combination of the two. 2 Reasons for this. 1) In order to land those shots they had to be moving around too fast to plant their feet. Same thing will apply to Canelo. Big thunderous shots like he hit kirkland with will not be seen in this fight. I always try to tell people boxers that move DO have power, they just don't utilise it because they are not planted as they are busy moving. Bradley is a perfect example. Once Teddy got him sitting on shots he took out Rios by KO. Before that he was hitting with little shots as he was so busy moving (exception Provodnikov) (excessive moving caused sprained ankles v. Pac). Sitting on shots also caused him to lose more decisively in the 3rd Pac match and was a massive technical error. 2) Golovkin baits these pitty-pat shot combos in order to draw in and open up opponents who are moving too much. They come to him with soft shots because they aren't set because they are scared of the return fire, but he still gives them the medicine because he is that good.

I pretty much always echo Dan's posts, this one is no different. Golovkin is the bigger guy, Canelo is the much better fighter. Kell Brook was far too small, but he was lighting him up and backing him up when throwing in combination, and rocked his head several times with uppercuts. He also ate plenty of his punches and didn't go down, Canelo will be doing the same things only as a much bigger and stronger guy than Kell.

Imo, I think its inablity to pace himself and a common sense, dude just bring it all and not learn from his past mistakes, I think he's a retard I wouldn't call him a retard when they're a family floating around boxing who are truly retarded, the Furry's aka the Peckerwood's.

GGG will be be able to back up Canelo like he's never felt before and Canelo doesn't have the footwork to get away from it. His feet are so slow and static. Smith was even able to back up Canelo to the ropes and Canelo didn't have the footwork to go anywhere. He's very good off the ropes though at not getting hit clean but Golovkins power and punch selection will get through that guard. I can see why Brook had his moments. Although he is more orthodox than a lot of ingle fighters, he still has that style, angles and the creative punch selection which can always make you look good at times when it's working. I honestly 100% think this fight could be extremely easy for Golovkin and he runs through Canelo. I rate Canelo very highly but i can't see how he can deal with that pressure with his style. He's used to being the stronger and more powerful man and now he's going to find himself being bullied and pressured and he doesn't have the style to evade that pressure. I don't think anyone can withstand that pressure for 12 rounds from Golovkin at MW. Canelo is VERY skilled when he's allowed to do his work and have time to admire his work. He won't even get a moment to breath against Golovkin. It's an awful match for Canelo and they know it.

This is what is going to happen Canelo is going to beat his overrated a55 and you'll do what you's did before when Marquez iced Manny then you was suddenly a Donaire fan until he got embarrassed by Rigo then GGG came along and you'll leap onto the Lomachenko train or something. Its like I said in the Donaire vs Rigo build up. Whatever HBO tells boxing fans is what they run with they don't know anything about styles and just echo what they hear as long as its what they want to hear. What is Golovkin truthfully? He's a puncher with limited skills. Very good jab, excellent at cutting a ring off, great power, at least a decent chin. Sometimes in boxing you only need to do a few things well and it can take you to the top. He's excellent at cutting a ring off I won't deny that but what does he do once he's cut the exit off? He walks straight in and doesn't move his head. Its not he wants a Street fight or lets opponents hit him he has flaws. He walks straight in, doesn't move his head and a straight will always get to the target before a wide ass hook does. He's disgustingly overrated in terms of skillset. What he can and can't do, period. What he is is an extremely effective fighter. One dimensional with 2 gears. He doesn't move his head or step off or around. He often drops his opposing hands when throwing never finishing any particular combination with anything other than a livershot. He's predictable. His punch selection is predictable. He is hunched over and wide open for anything down the middle with his come forward style the uppercuts a great weapon but its actually a set up punch & Brook is the only guy he's fought to put something behind it because these other guys have been terrified. He doesn't throw with you (1 in a million shot vs bummy Geale) and he freezes when you put more than 2 punches together and often pulls straight back with his hands low. He's stronger, he hits harder he has slightly faster feet & cuts a ring off better. They are his only advantages. Canelo has the faster hands, better combinations, better counterpuncher. Vastly superior defense and he is flat out the better inside fighter he's superior at mid range as well. Its not debatable Idc how many pundits, fans, boxers, trainers claim otherwise I have two eyes. I can see it clear as day. GGG has a punchers chance, that is all. Canelo will light him the f*ck up in the pocket. He will tool him. He will purposely fight off the ropes like he did last night. Smith wasn't backing anybody up or cutting a ring off. Canelo purposely went to the ropes. He will roll, slip those big telegraphed hooks and counter the living f*ck out the guy with blistering combinations to head and body and this one dimensional hypejob ain't gonna have a clue what day of the week it is. He is made for Canelo! He'll go a different path he won't even fight Saunders, he'll fight the weak link in Jacobs as usual. He probably beats BJS but they don't really want none of that southpaw slickness. Don't want anybody who calls their bluff and isn't petrified of him. Big drama show only the motherf*cker wants no real drama :lol1: You actually went into this in depth so I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that this isn't trolling. You apparently just can't see Golovkin's abilities. 350-5 amateur record with 'no skills'. And amateurs DO COUNT, many people discard it as if you lose the ability or the experience of them when you go pro. Sitting on shots and constantly planting feet against people who's power and arsenal you don't respect doesn't mean you can't move. I would suggest watching some of his amateur footage. Going to the ropes would be the worst possible thing that Canelo could EVER do. The worst idea in the universe for him against Golovkin. He will not be slipping and ducking on the ropes like he did against Smith. Just look at the punishment Brook took on the ropes even with his movement. The body shots will put a stop to that... Golovkin didn't respect Brook's power so don't come with the exposed talk. See Lemieux for comparison, it's not debatable. Don't get me wrong, it's a great fight and Canelo will pose problems, but GGG has too much for young Cinnamon. Canelo has looked to have improved a lot (mainly when he fought (OLD)Cotto and Lara (who didn't do anything after 5th round or so because he was crippled by body shots)) so I think I know where all this confusion and overestimating of Canelo is coming from. He is very good. But the story goes like this: Jab, jab, jab like the lemieux fight, with no over-commitment to shots. Canelo will tire, his will will fade.. GGG has the best conservation of energy in terms of style and pacing of any boxer. Also, I'd take GGG on the inside over Canelo both defensively and offensively. You would think Canelo winding his upper body all over the place was good defence vs Smith, and it is, but it wastes a lot of energy. GGG does more subtle movements and avoids the punishment just the same. This also enables him to retain balance and position better, whilst not opening areas up like the body (which smith should have targetted more on the ropes). We know this is not the case with Canelo. When GGG applies pressure Canelo will not have his feet planted and landing powerful and creative combos against him. GGG also throws some brilliantly unorthodox shots. Like the cross armed uppercut he caught Rubio with (2:04 rd 2). A thing of beauty. GGG is a one of a kind fighter and he does things that no other fighter does. I guess people can't see these things because no other boxers are doing them, and the commentators don't point it out on the broadcasts... If you're genuinely serious there are some good technical study films on youtube. Here are a few to get you started: Anyways, if the fight is anytime soon before Golovkin ends up Hopkins age, I'll put all my points on GGG with you.

This is what is going to happen Canelo is going to beat his overrated a55 and you'll do what you's did before when Marquez iced Manny then you was suddenly a Donaire fan until he got embarrassed by Rigo then GGG came along and you'll leap onto the Lomachenko train or something. Its like I said in the Donaire vs Rigo build up. Whatever HBO tells boxing fans is what they run with they don't know anything about styles and just echo what they hear as long as its what they want to hear. What is Golovkin truthfully? He's a puncher with limited skills. Very good jab, excellent at cutting a ring off, great power, at least a decent chin. Sometimes in boxing you only need to do a few things well and it can take you to the top. He's excellent at cutting a ring off I won't deny that but what does he do once he's cut the exit off? He walks straight in and doesn't move his head. Its not he wants a Street fight or lets opponents hit him he has flaws. He walks straight in, doesn't move his head and a straight will always get to the target before a wide ass hook does. He's disgustingly overrated in terms of skillset. What he can and can't do, period. What he is is an extremely effective fighter. One dimensional with 2 gears. He doesn't move his head or step off or around. He often drops his opposing hands when throwing never finishing any particular combination with anything other than a livershot. He's predictable. His punch selection is predictable. He is hunched over and wide open for anything down the middle with his come forward style the uppercuts a great weapon but its actually a set up punch & Brook is the only guy he's fought to put something behind it because these other guys have been terrified. He doesn't throw with you (1 in a million shot vs bummy Geale) and he freezes when you put more than 2 punches together and often pulls straight back with his hands low. He's stronger, he hits harder he has slightly faster feet & cuts a ring off better. They are his only advantages. Canelo has the faster hands, better combinations, better counterpuncher. Vastly superior defense and he is flat out the better inside fighter he's superior at mid range as well. Its not debatable Idc how many pundits, fans, boxers, trainers claim otherwise I have two eyes. I can see it clear as day. GGG has a punchers chance, that is all. Canelo will light him the f*ck up in the pocket. He will tool him. He will purposely fight off the ropes like he did last night. Smith wasn't backing anybody up or cutting a ring off. Canelo purposely went to the ropes. He will roll, slip those big telegraphed hooks and counter the living f*ck out the guy with blistering combinations to head and body and this one dimensional hypejob ain't gonna have a clue what day of the week it is. He is made for Canelo! He'll go a different path he won't even fight Saunders, he'll fight the weak link in Jacobs as usual. He probably beats BJS but they don't really want none of that southpaw slickness. Don't want anybody who calls their bluff and isn't petrified of him. Big drama show only the motherf*cker wants no real drama :lol1: Good post. I was leaning towards Canelo but after watching the Brook fight I'm just about all in. I think the hold up has more to do with dick measuring between the promoters, not so much Canelo being scared :lol1:.

I'm not ashamed to have got it wrong with Chakhkiev, dude is one of the most exciting cruisers I've ever seen still is, he just lacked the ability to pace himself and a solid defence which isn't installed in every fighter anyway. Imo, I think its inablity to pace himself and a common sense, dude just bring it all and not learn from his past mistakes, I think he's a retard

He's always in the rope though. If Liam Smith had enough pressure for canelo I'm pretty sure ggg would be able to put him on the ropes it's just natural to him. Honestly his style is the same since he fought Floyd and even somehow Floyd eas backing him up. Even if he somehow was determined to stand in the middle of the ring I think he'll just get jabbed to death. I think he's gonna wait to counter something that might come and I don't feel he'll throw enough punches to win rounds against ggg. Of course none of that matter because I have canelo losing by corner stoppage in the later rounds. Don't make the mistake of thinking that guys like Liam forced him there. He has clearly been working techniques off the rope. Did you miss his little Philly shell routine? Canelo is competent enough to place himself where he needs to be. Notice he didn't let Cotto do that to him. Also, Golovkin's jab is decent but Canelo is better at working power punches of the jab, countering the jab, and feinting. Like I said, Golovkin would likely beat him by trapping him because Canelo is a little too comfortable being there. But, there's too many people here who lack the educated eye to see how many ways Canelo will give Golovkin problems, and possibly win.

Yea, I'm totally cool with people who disagree with me but I'm like a math teacher in that I expect to "see your work". Show me how you get to this conclusion, otherwise, you're just a big mouth. Didn't expect this opinion out of Dan but I respect it and it's nice to see people articulating a point. I've always left that people are sleeping on Canelo in this one. I still favor GGG but IF Canelo can stay off the ropes, he has this fight in the bag. In center-ring, Canelo sets up his shots and traps much better and is a legit 1-punch fighter. When you have a 1-punch KO artist against a guy whose face is always available to be hit, the science is inevitable. BUT, Canelo must stay off the ropes for several rounds first, which I don't think he's quite ready to do, hence my favoring GGG. Just like Alvarez has advantages in center-ring, GGG would cripple him if Canelo tried to play around against the ropes like he did w/ Smith and Krikland. Let me put it this way, i expect GGG to win or be the favourite but i wouldnt count Canelo.