Don't think he beats any champ at 154. He's done with 147 but even if he went back he'd be to drained to beat Spence. Beats no-one at 160.
GGG looked like sh*t and he couldn't even go halfway. He gets hyped for landing a couple flurries even though GGG's defense is somewhere in between Gatti's and Margarito's.
Just mentioned that on here earlier, it doesn't help that he isn't a body puncher. He should select his opponents carefully until he finds what works for him at the weight, I wouldn't jump on a top guy.
On the UK broadcast, Paulie kept on saying how good of a body puncher Brook was, had me confused as hell lol. I've never seen him consistently use a body attack, he's always been a headhunter.
Assuming he gets a Khan fight at 154, I wonder how much more he'll want to do after that. He's had a 12 year pro career already where he's won a world title and sold out his home town arena several times. What more is he realistically going to achieve?
Don't think he beats any champ at 154. He's done with 147 but even if he went back he'd be to drained to beat Spence. Beats no-one at 160.
GGG looked like sh*t and he couldn't even go halfway. He gets hyped for landing a couple flurries even though GGG's defense is somewhere in between Gatti's and Margarito's.
Thats harsh...
Lara almost got stopped by a shot Angulo who was throwing punches so slow I had to put my tv on fast forward to make it look like in real time.
The Jermell fight was decent and Vanes looked hungry but he did what a lot of fighters do and that's stick to making a fight ugly. Thats sort of his calling card. Its why he can sneak rounds.
If anything Vanes is overrated, with his best win being...I dunno, SMith?
Best win is probably Willie Nelson. Vanes is pretty skilled he doesn't have great speed or power but he's good at everything.
Vanes fought Lara tough twice and some think he beat Charlo. He's underrated but he's beaten good people.
Lara almost got stopped by a shot Angulo who was throwing punches so slow I had to put my tv on fast forward to make it look like in real time.
The Jermell fight was decent and Vanes looked hungry but he did what a lot of fighters do and that's stick to making a fight ugly. Thats sort of his calling card. Its why he can sneak rounds.
If anything Vanes is overrated, with his best win being...I dunno, SMith?
Only because it will always be there (his words, not mind). Eventually he'll cash that chip in, probably next year.
Brook's 30, he just earned $4-5m, the HBO boss mentioned a Canelo fight to Hearn and there's the Khan fight in the background.
If that's going downhill, I can imagine a few boxers who would trade places with him.
There was an article where Amir said he would never fight Brook. I would like to see that fight but i don't think it'll ever happen.
Amir has never wanted that fight.
Only because it will always be there (his words, not mind). Eventually he'll cash that chip in, probably next year.
Brook's 30, he just earned $4-5m, the HBO boss mentioned a Canelo fight to Hearn and there's the Khan fight in the background.
If that's going downhill, I can imagine a few boxers who would trade places with him.
Ever heard of a guy called Amir Khan OP?
Brook is still a champion at 147, that fight will be on the table soon enough for huge money.
Amir has never wanted that fight.
"Don't think he beats any champ at 154. He's done with 147 but even if he went back he'd be to drained to beat Spence. Beats no-one at 160."
Poor Poor analysis. Based on what? giving GGG one of his toughest fights yet? Brook will be a FORCE at 154. He's going to be great at 154, probably top 5 right of the bat.
Not only did Brook up his stock to every promoter and network in the world, he upped his stock to all other fighters and the boxing world as a whole. You just don't like Brook, everyone can see that he upped his stock
I have no problem with Brook. He landed some good punches on ggg but literally everyone does. Stevens, Rosado,Murray all landed shots on golovkin and did better than people expected.
********* Rankings
1. Erislandy Lara
2. Canelo Alvarez
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Demetrius Andrade
5. Jermall Charlo
6. Jermell Charlo
7. Liam Smith
8. Austin Trout
9. Charles Hatley
10. Alfredo Angulo
11. Cornelius Bundrage
12. Sergey Rabchenko
13. Jack Culcay
14. Erickson Lubin
15. Vanes Martirosyan
16. Julian Williams
IBF Rankings
1. Julian Williams
2. NOT RATED
3. Takayuki Hosokawa
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Cedric Vitu
6. Marcelo Matano
7. Jarrett Hurd
8. Sergei Rabchenko
9. Demetrius Andrade
10. Oleksandr Spyrko
11. Yuki Nonaka
12. Austin Trout
13. Tony Harrison
14. Liam Williams
15. Steven Butler
He could do well for the IBF
The guys in bold he might have a chance against
Reckon he'd beat the following
Miguel Cotto
Liam Smith
Austin Trout
Bundrage
Rabachenko
The rest of the guys in bold I scratch my head at I'm not sure I think they could go either way It wouldn't be easy for him.
Come forward rough and ready brawlers like Angulo I think that type of guy is all wrong for Kell Brook especially after having Golovkin trash you like that.
"Don't think he beats any champ at 154. He's done with 147 but even if he went back he'd be to drained to beat Spence. Beats no-one at 160."
Poor Poor analysis. Based on what? giving GGG one of his toughest fights yet? Brook will be a FORCE at 154. He's going to be great at 154, probably top 5 right of the bat.
Not only did Brook up his stock to every promoter and network in the world, he upped his stock to all other fighters and the boxing world as a whole. You just don't like Brook, everyone can see that he upped his stock
I'm not sold on what Kell will do in his return either but he can beat some at 154 not sure If he beat many of the top 5 guys though
You all need to stop acting like GGG can't fight any other way he could have easily been patient all night and jabbed Brooks head off but he didn't do that he pushed the distance and went for a quick kill and guess what... He got that quick kill.
Vanes is crap and trout may be past it, these are 2 fights he has a chance of winning.
I was thinking more like Charlos, Andrade, Canelo
Vanes fought Lara tough twice and some think he beat Charlo. He's underrated but he's beaten good people.
I hope his injury doesn't ruin his career. This is why I hated this fight so much. Moving up to fight a destroyer like Golovkin is a bad risk for more than the slim chance of winning. He fought the kind of fighter that causes damage ruining careers. He hurts and takes years off your career with that kind of power.
Now dude has an injury that can mess up your career.
I just keep thinking back to Margarito who was never the same after Pacquiao broke his face. After that his face and eye just couldn't stand up to the punishment.