Comments Thread For: Hearn: In Defeat, I Feel Kell Brook's Stock Has Risen Considerably

I'm sorry but this excessive Brook positive PR spin that everyone is doing whether it's Bunce, Matchroom , writers on this site is a joke If you need to continually tell the narrative that his stock hasn't dropped or that it was a coursgeous effort it should tell you that his performance wasn't really all that and nothing to be written positively about Brook essentially got beat down for 4 1/2 rounds, Monroe, Rosado, Murray,Lemieux, Stevens all fighters that are no where near the level that Brook is supposedly at all lasted longer. People need to cut the bullsh.it, It was a exciting fight But Brook didn't do anything special on Saturday he became another Gennady victim.

It would have if Brook could have atleast lost by decision. But he was about to get KO'D, just as many expected. Your stock rises in a loss when you do way better than expected. So Brook had a good couple of rounds!?!?, I honestly thought that he was a good enough boxer to survive 12 rounds and loose! But that was not close enough, so I disagree.

Kell showed good movement and was dropping combos on ggg slow azz. GGG was just too strong and powerful for a WW. At 154, Kell dethrones Canelo.

HBO asked Hearn about matching Brook and Cotto earlier this year. Hearn agreed to it but Cotto's team didn't. “HBO have approached us regarding the possibility of fighting Miguel Cotto on June 18 in New York, which we would jump at. But I think Cotto and his team are looking for someone easier on June 18." http://www.boxingscene.com/kell-brook-approached-about-facing-miguel-cotto-on-june-18--102635?print_friendly=1 September 25, 2012: Bradley had hoped to fight a rematch with Manny Pacquiao, but Pacquiao instead opted for a fourth fight on Dec. 8 with Juan Manuel Marquez. Top Rank did make an offer to Brook, although HBO had not fully signed off on having him as the opponent. Also, Top Rank's offer of about $500,000 was nothing spectacular. Brook and promoter Eddie Hearn turned it down. Brook already has an Oct. 20 fight in his hometown of Sheffield, England scheduled against Hector Saldivia -- a fight Brook is a heavy favorite in... But why not take a title shot against Bradley rather than fight an eliminator first? "The Bradley fight was put in front of me, but I believe the mandatory position in the IBF is the right move," Brook said. "Eddie has worked hard to get me into this position and providing I beat Saldivia, I'll be fighting for a world title at the start of 2013, and it will be on my terms. I would love that to be in Sheffield, too, and I know Eddie would do his best to get it here as it would be an amazing event." Said Hearn, "Top Rank contacted me in August and made us an offer for the Bradley fight. It was a nice ego boost for Kell to be offered a fight of such magnitude, but we begun this journey with a goal of becoming a mandatory challenger and now we are just one win away." Nice spin from Hearn, since Brook could have had the title shot immediately. But I get it. Brook gets to stay at home -- rather than come to the United States to face Bradley -- and faces Saldivia, which should be an easy win. http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/1941/brook-turned-down-bradley-offer Hearn is who he is! Everytime some talks fail with Hearn, it's never his fault! Hopefully he does better for Brook @ 154!

Not true. Bone density can vary from person to person, and overinflated muscles doesn't mean more power. I myself am a very heavy person. I weight about 190 pounds, am lean and fairly muscular, but still, some of the guys at the gym that I go to walk around at a 160 pounds and look way bigger than me. My bone structure is fairly big (you can see it in my wrists, shoulders, ankles). I could still go down to 160 (if I loose some fat and muscle) and I would still be bigger than those guys, not heavier but bigger. An orbital bone can be broken inside a ring, it has happen before. But..... In just two rounds? Man you have to admit that GGG must be ridiculously powerful to be able to do that in that short amount of time. Kell looked more like a Calvin Klein model than a boxer. He did well though. At least better that I was expecting. GGG no doubt has a bigger skeleton than Brook, which is why he couldn't fight at 147 without weakening himself badly. But Brook still weighed the same as Golovkin in the ring, and it was all "business weight" ... bone and lean muscle. No 2 fighters ever have the same ratio of bone to muscle, that varies from individual to individual. But in the past, we've seen fighters move up 2 divisions and more without being too fragile to handle the difference. There is no reason at all to think that Kell moving up from WW is the reason his orbital bone got fractured by GGG. Golovkin is a fearsome, heavy handed power puncher. If he hit them in the right spot (or the wrong spot) he can could fracture a MW's bones just as easily as Brook's. Mathew Macklin was a big boned, legit MW, and GGG broke 2 of his ribs with one left hook to the body.

Rarely do I agree with Hearn but Yes it did

Kell Brook is who he is! He got his face broken and suddenly he's a beast? August 17, 2014: It was a tough night for Porter, 26, whose aggression wasn't effective, as he lunged constantly, missed a ton of shots, and got picked off with jabs and counter shots from Brook. That's not to say it was a truly sterling performance for Brook, either, as the fight certainly lacked grace. Aside from counter shots, and maybe even more than those, Brook's strongest asset in this fight was his ability to smother Porter, often clinching him when he'd get in close. To Brook's credit, it worked and was smart. And Porter, it seemed, let himself simply get too far inside -- a half-step back, and his work might have wound up tidier, even if Brook did intend to hold. http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/8/17/6025813/kell-brook-upsets-shawn-porter-to-win-ibf-welterweight-title That's his most impressive win, and he followed that up with Jo Jo Dan, Frankie Gavin and Kevin Bizier. Please stop! He should fight Cotto. Cotto is trying to fight Marquez, Gamboa, and Lamont Peterson. Brook should be an excellent choice for Cotto! HBO asked Hearn about matching Brook and Cotto earlier this year. Hearn agreed to it but Cotto's team didn't. “HBO have approached us regarding the possibility of fighting Miguel Cotto on June 18 in New York, which we would jump at. But I think Cotto and his team are looking for someone easier on June 18." http://www.boxingscene.com/kell-brook-approached-about-facing-miguel-cotto-on-june-18--102635?print_friendly=1

Brook had nothing to lose We already knew this, thus he took this fight Hearn knew this as well thats why he made this fight happen Ingle saved the kid from career ending damage by throwing in the towel. Although some serious damage was done to Brook, having your face broken is no joke and i don't think Brook will ever be the same after that brutal 5 round beating he took I still have my doubts we will see Brook back in the ring and if we do it will be towards the end of 2017....

Scot Gilfoid, who wrote that article, is a professional boxing troll who runs a website devoted to criticising UK boxers in order to provoke a reaction from UK fans. That's how he earns his living. Please, do not quote that fraud here ever again. Too bad I couldn´t green you at the moment.

I watched Canelo vs Lara myself, so I don't need telling how to score it by anybody else. It was a shit fight, but Canelo deserved to get the nod. Lara was absolute garbage, running away the whole time while throwing little flicks at Canelo's gloves. Lara is nothing special and the other Haymon SWW's are still scared of fighting him. That should tell you how good they are ... B level, at best.They're a lot better than Jo Jo Dan, Frankie Gavin, and Kevin Bizier! Brook will fight Cotto or Bradley @ 154! B level at best!

Heavier IS bigger. Bone and muscle weigh the same, whoever the bone and muscle belong to, and Brook didn't have an ounce of fat on him. He was a MW in that fight. The only handicap he had was never having fought a top class MW before, but that didn't cause his injury. It was just one of those things that sometimes happens in the ring. Not true. Bone density can vary from person to person, and overinflated muscles doesn't mean more power. I myself am a very heavy person. I weight about 190 pounds, am lean and fairly muscular, but still, some of the guys at the gym that I go to walk around at a 160 pounds and look way bigger than me. My bone structure is fairly big (you can see it in my wrists, shoulders, ankles). I could still go down to 160 (if I loose some fat and muscle) and I would still be bigger than those guys, not heavier but bigger. An orbital bone can be broken inside a ring, it has happen before. But..... In just two rounds? Man you have to admit that GGG must be ridiculously powerful to be able to do that in that short amount of time. Kell looked more like a Calvin Klein model than a boxer. He did well though. At least better that I was expecting.

Scot Gilfoid, who wrote that article, is a professional boxing troll who runs a website devoted to criticising UK boxers in order to provoke a reaction from UK fans. That's how he earns his living. Please, do not quote that fraud here ever again.Kell Brook is who he is! He got his face broken and suddenly he's a beast? August 17, 2014: It was a tough night for Porter, 26, whose aggression wasn't effective, as he lunged constantly, missed a ton of shots, and got picked off with jabs and counter shots from Brook. That's not to say it was a truly sterling performance for Brook, either, as the fight certainly lacked grace. Aside from counter shots, and maybe even more than those, Brook's strongest asset in this fight was his ability to smother Porter, often clinching him when he'd get in close. To Brook's credit, it worked and was smart. And Porter, it seemed, let himself simply get too far inside -- a half-step back, and his work might have wound up tidier, even if Brook did intend to hold. http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/8/17/6025813/kell-brook-upsets-shawn-porter-to-win-ibf-welterweight-title That's his most impressive win, and he followed that up with Jo Jo Dan, Frankie Gavin and Kevin Bizier. Please stop! He should fight Cotto. Cotto is trying to fight Marquez, Gamboa, and Lamont Peterson. Brook should be an excellent choice for Cotto!

July 13, 2014: Canelo Alvarez got the duke tonight over Erislandy Lara, but there's some controversy, as is often the case, though at least this time, it appeared there was a solid argument for either man to win. Official scores were 115-113 and 117-111 for Canelo, and 115-113 for Lara. BLH had it 115-113 for Lara, while Showtime's Steve Farhood had 115-113 for Lara, as well. The fight saw several rounds that could have been called swing rounds, as I personally had at least five rounds of the 12 that I felt could have gone either way. I shaded toward Lara, who landed some crisp shots, but absolutely did "run" for much of the fight, while Canelo landed a lot of solid body shots along the way. http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/7/13/5894793/canelo-vs-lara-results-canelo-alvarez-wins-split-decision-in-vegas Lara would easily beat Cotto, and Cotto knows that! The money fights are Cotto and Canelo, that's why GGG is still @ 160. But if Brook wants the best @ 154, then he goes PBC! I watched Canelo vs Lara myself, so I don't need telling how to score it by anybody else. It was a shit fight, but Canelo deserved to get the nod. Lara was absolute garbage, running away the whole time while throwing little flicks at Canelo's gloves. Lara is nothing special and the other Haymon SWW's are still scared of fighting him. That should tell you how good they are ... B level, at best.

His medical bill has risen up more than anything. Medical bill? What's one of them?

Does Kell Brook Lack Power for 154 Division? September 12, 2016: Scott Gilfoid I’ve seen all the top fighters at 154, and I don’t think that Brook has the power, size or the boxing skills to be a major player at junior middleweight. Here are the top fighters at 154: Jermell Charlo, Miguel Cotto, Saul Canelo Alvarez, Demetrius Andrade, Erislandy Lara, Jermall Charlo, Liam Williams and Julian Williams. Most of those guys are big enough and powerful enough to fight at middleweight. These are fighters that rehydrate into their 170s just like Golovkin does, yet they choose to fight at junior middleweight. There’s not much difference between the power of these guys and Golovkin. They may not hit as hard, but they’re powerful enough to create a lot of problems for a pumped up welterweight like Brook. I would rate Brook well below the power of those fighters. Heck, I don’t even see Brook as having the power of some of the fringe contenders at junior middleweight like Willie Nelson, Vanes Martirosyan, Jarett Hurd, Michael Soro, Erickson Lubin, Charles Hatley, Gabriel Rosado and Liam Williams. Those guys all gave heavy hands with big frames and are naturally powerful for the junior middleweight class. With the exception of perhaps Lubin, they might be missing the overall talent to win a world title at 154, but they’re all very powerful. I rate Brook’s power to be close to guys like Austin Trout and Tony Harrison. Those guys aren’t big punchers, and they have to depend more on their boxing skills to get wins. Neither of them is ranked in the top 5 in the division, which kind of gives you an indication of where Brook is heading in the future at junior middleweight. The way I see it, Brook’s lack of power at the 154lb level will doom him to being just another one of the fringe contenders once he gets found out by one or more of those top names. It might not even take one of the top guys to beat Brook. I could see him getting beaten by some fringe contenders as well. I think Tony Harrison beats him and Trout as well. Terrell Guashua, Hurd and Daquan Arnett would be a nightmare for Brook. I’m just saying. Unless Brook can get back down to 147 to continue campaigning as a welterweight, I think it might be game over for him as a true major player in boxing. http://www.************.com/2016/09/kell-brook-lack-power-154-division/ Scot Gilfoid, who wrote that article, is a professional boxing troll who runs a website devoted to criticising UK boxers in order to provoke a reaction from UK fans. That's how he earns his living. Please, do not quote that fraud here ever again.

His medical bill has risen up more than anything.

Who says those guys are better than Cotto, Canelo or Liam Smith? Canelo already beat Lara, ffs. And none of them would be big money fights for Brook, that's for sure, unless they came to the UK to fight him. July 13, 2014: Canelo Alvarez got the duke tonight over Erislandy Lara, but there's some controversy, as is often the case, though at least this time, it appeared there was a solid argument for either man to win. Official scores were 115-113 and 117-111 for Canelo, and 115-113 for Lara. BLH had it 115-113 for Lara, while Showtime's Steve Farhood had 115-113 for Lara, as well. The fight saw several rounds that could have been called swing rounds, as I personally had at least five rounds of the 12 that I felt could have gone either way. I shaded toward Lara, who landed some crisp shots, but absolutely did "run" for much of the fight, while Canelo landed a lot of solid body shots along the way. http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/7/13/5894793/canelo-vs-lara-results-canelo-alvarez-wins-split-decision-in-vegas Lara would easily beat Cotto, and Cotto knows that! The money fights are Cotto and Canelo, that's why GGG is still @ 160. But if Brook wants the best @ 154, then he goes PBC!

Hopefully Brook's eye isn't too bad. It would be a shame if he can never capitalize on the guts he showed against Golovkin because of that injury.

Heavier does not equate to bigger. Kell could have been heavier than GGG but still, GGG looked and was bigger. Believe me, Kell just has a new fan. What I saw last Saturday was a display of good boxing and huge heart from his part. I just hope that his injury doesn't become a career ending one. However, I still believe it was a huge miss match and it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. Heavier IS bigger. Bone and muscle weigh the same, whoever the bone and muscle belong to, and Brook didn't have an ounce of fat on him. He was a MW in that fight. The only handicap he had was never having fought a top class MW before, but that didn't cause his injury. It was just one of those things that sometimes happens in the ring.

We all know that the best: Lara, J-Rock, the Charlo Bros., Tony Harrison, etc., are with the PBC. We just saw Lara and both Charlo Bros, all fight in one night. We also saw Andrade fighting on Showtime! We just saw Harrison KO Rabchenko, @ 154. We know Gausha and Lubin are with the PBC! So if Brook goes to HBO, he's going away from the best of the 154 division! If he wants Cotto or Canelo, that's cool, but if he wants the best @ 154, PBC is where it's at! By signing with HBO, Brook will be setting himself up for "network issues" and everyone knows this beforehand! Who says those guys are better than Cotto, Canelo or Liam Smith? Canelo already beat Lara, ffs. And none of them would be big money fights for Brook, that's for sure, unless they came to the UK to fight him.