Those wanting GGG to fight Ward at LHW...

"Leave Golovkin alone!!!!"

I guess Ward doesn't want the fight so. Ward looks very lean even at 175. He said he can't go back down and I believe it. One of the reasons he's going to be so tough against Kovalev is that he is naturally right on the weight. In fact he could be tight on it. As to GGG/Ward? Ward is too big. If GGG wanted to make a run at him at 175 (maybe after Degale) I'd love to see it. It's all coulda/woulda/shoulda to me. I'd love to see it but as long as GGG gets the top middleweights I won't complain too much. His career will be what it is and it'll get judged accurately in hindsight just like they all are. We all know who the consensus ATGs are and it's up to GGG whether he even tries to be in consideration.

The excuse of every Black dude who can't handle White guys beating up on the Brothers go away

And say that GGG dragged Kell up from WW so why doesn't he do the same? Here are some facts... if you deny them come in and show your true colours as a ****ing spiteful wanker: Kell Brook cut 15lbs+ to make 160. GGG wouldn't cut a single lb to make 175. Some of you genuinely think it would be the same thing? Some of you were saying there was a huge size difference between GGG and Kell, I didn't see it at all. Kell looked the thicker man. Smaller bone structure, denser muscle. Imagine the difference between him and someone who said it's hard to make LHW? Of course the few typical ones like CaneloMaidana, SugarKaineHook etc will deny this and spout out some nonsense... Didn't you guys want Floyd to jump two divisions to fight Triple Clown? Tell me then, how much does Floyd cut to make 152lbs for Canelo? Oh wait? Did he even make 152lbs? Lol, he couldn't even make the 152 catchweight, ON FREAKIN FIGHT NIGHT WEIGH IN, nevermind the one day weigh in. Yet you clowns want him to fight Triple Clown.

He's on a mission to collect all his 160 belts. Once he has done that (only WBO left) or if BJS won't fight him.. move up. Nothing else left for him to do at MW - especially in a weak era.

I want to see the fight because I want to see him tested. He's never been in any trouble and I don't see anyone at 160 or 168 giving him any trouble. He is getting old do I would like to see it before he declines. It's not like ward a big puncher and I'm not asking him to fight a big puncher at 175.. Though most of the guys that are asking for that fight just want to see him lose and then spam the boards on hour over hype he is.

kinda pointless to bring up 175 when ggg and his team wouldnt even entertain a fight with ward at 168. spin it any pro ggg anti war way u want those are facts they wanted nothing to do with ward

I just want middleweights to not fight welterweights.. Same here. It is what is wrong with the sport. Lack of 50/50's. Kovalev/Ward is the first 50/50 at the highest level we will get to see in years. I forgive Ward for fighting a load of guys he wouldn't even use as sparring partners prior. Canelo is a write off. That guy will never be in a 50/50 again. And he is the money man in the sport. Nothing against him (it's great for him!) but I sort of hope someone like that with the whole Golden Boy machine behind him gets upset along the way. It would be genuinely good for boxing. I think possibly BJS would have a small chance of beating Canelo and they'd take that fight because he is the path of least resistance at middleweight.

Golovkin's success makes a certain demographic feel very insecure. :rofl: The GGG bashing is becoming ridiculous! They are making complete fools of themselves. GGG is getting held to that same standard that fighters from the "demographic" were being held too for the last 100+ years and unfortunatley he's not living up to it so he's getting criticized by the "demographic". Plus i don't see anyone calling GGG a cracker or anything racial like that, all the criticism is boxing related and that's normal in boxing when you're claiming to be the best. Stop crying! that's what you say all the time, now use that advice yourself and STOP CRYING!

Ward said he won't come down to 168. I guess Ward doesn't want the fight so.

How come ward fans are suddenly starting to move the goalposts? What's wrong with 168? I'd love to see GGG v Ward at 168. Ward said he won't come down to 168.

He has almost cleared out Middleweight - if he really wants to be 'great', he should move up. If he has the same or similar success SM, go to LH. Why not? It's not as if he's significantly smaller than Roy Jones Jr who achieved much more. He's on a mission to collect all his 160 belts.

How come ward fans are suddenly starting to move the goalposts? What's wrong with 168? I'd love to see GGG v Ward at 168.

He has almost cleared out Middleweight - if he really wants to be 'great', he should move up. If he has the same or similar success SM, go to LH. Why not? It's not as if he's significantly smaller than Roy Jones Jr who achieved much more. When I beat Bernard Hopkins, and won the IBF The right was hurt, beat him with the left Y'all musta forgot! .... You remember the left hook that James Toney got Sucka move that I stole from a game**** Y'all musta forgot! ....

I just want middleweights to not fight welterweights..

He has almost cleared out Middleweight - if he really wants to be 'great', he should move up. If he has the same or similar success SM, go to LH. Why not? It's not as if he's significantly smaller than Roy Jones Jr who achieved much more.

GGG hasn't shown me anything that'd make me believe that he can be competitive at 175 let alone against a very difficult style like Ward's, so I'm not in favor of that fight anymore, I think if GGG can't get a fight with Jacobs or Saunders next that he should go to 168 and try to get a big fight with the Jack vs Degale winner. A fight against Ramirez would be great too. Hopefully it doesn't take GGG too long to go up to 168 since he doesn't have much time left on the clock especially with his style of fighting, I hope he doesn't take the Canelo bait and wait too long for Canelo to fight him while aging and declining in the process, because that's exactly what Canelo wants. Leonard Hagler kinda stuff, ya kno? Loeffler mentioned Degale or Ramirez if they couldn't get any big names so it seems like a possibility.

Ward himself said he's not coming down to 168 so not sure why people keep taking about it. There was a lot of he said they said so unless you were directly involved in negotiations you can't say what happened for certain; regardless of what happened that was years ago, move on.

I think it's already too late to ask for the Ward vs GGG fight, the best time for that fight to happen would've been this year before Ward moved up to 175, GGG could've taken advantage of the fact that Ward was coming off a long layoff and probably had trouble making 168. They could've called his bluff and accepted the offer at 168 since that's the time were they had the best chance of winning but they chose to pass on the fight and used ridiculous excuses. If the fight would've happened then it would've been a 50-50 fight. GGG hasn't shown me anything that'd make me believe that he can be competitive at 175 let alone against a very difficult style like Ward's, so I'm not in favor of that fight anymore, I think if GGG can't get a fight with Jacobs or Saunders next that he should go to 168 and try to get a big fight with the Jack vs Degale winner. A fight against Ramirez would be great too. Hopefully it doesn't take GGG too long to go up to 168 since he doesn't have much time left on the clock especially with his style of fighting, I hope he doesn't take the Canelo bait and wait too long for Canelo to fight him while aging and declining in the process, because that's exactly what Canelo wants. Leonard Hagler kinda stuff, ya kno?

Yeah because Ward's team legitimately put an offer in did they? K2 got a call when GGG was already contracted to fight. Keep living in your bull**** world though. This forum in a nutshell. Troll makes up bull****, fellow trolls repeat it so often... idiots eat it up and accept it as fact and use it to consistently bag the fighters they seem to dislike more than the fighters they 'like'. Who has Ward ever fought that has a similar style to GGG? No one. Who has GGG ever fought that fights similar to Ward? No one. So all your bull**** fantasies about what happens in that fight are just that... fantasies. Does Ward likely win? Yes. He's NATURALLY about two weight divisions heavier (unlike GGG-Brook who were very similar in size.) This the BS Im talking about , rumors innuendo and hear say . Show me where GGG has said around the time of all this where he says I will fight Ward at 168 , can you do that ?