Fight will be scheduled sometime in November.
Location ?
http://www.thesweetscience.com/feature-articles/28123-bob-arum-confirms-lomachenko-vs-corrales-november
2 of the last 5 fights in which Corrales had a KO/stoppage win before Uchiyama had losing records, one of them only had 2 wins lol Those are step ups in your opinion? The best guy Corrales faced pre-Uchiyama was that guy who had lost o Fortuna a few years back. Can't remember his name.
So the KO win was not something to be expected. Uchiyama getting stopped by a guy of Corrales' caliber tells us more about Uchiyama than it does corrales.
And what the hell does that last sentence even mean? Loma fought for 2 vacant titles and went 1-1. He ten beat Martinez, a fighter past his best but I can take that win. It was decent...but not actually special, considering Burns had already beaten a far better version. Unless Burns should be considered great too?
The only other established world class fighter Loma faced, he lost too. Loma supporters were telling me that he would face Salido next and that thats what Loma was talking about. Wheres that fight gone? Instead he fights a guy with one step up in his entire career?
Why not Vargas, Pedraza, Miura or Walters? Not only are they better known, they are better than Corrales. Can you give me one other world class opponent Corrales has beaten? Or has he done more in his career than the guys I just listed?
All of them are 130 pounders btw.
I'll give a quick answer to all of that. I don't think Loma lost to Salido (officially yes) but it was a draw IMO. Walters already priced himself out. Salido too. Fact! Corrales style was the explanation i gave, if you don't like it fine. As for the KO's, was i incorrect in saying as he is maturing his KO ratio is increasing? No. This happens with fighters. Why not those guys you listed? Am i his promoter? I don't know, ask them.
Is it just me or does anyone else find it odd that someone is picking apart Vasyls opposition rather than acknowledging that these men are all fighting a guy with a short pro career to date & 7 pro fights or less! Yet the onus is on Lomachenko here apparently. Call me when someone else is doing what Lomachenko is doing! I refer you back to & stand by my previous post:
The champion looked very confident thinking he was fighting someone with a low KO percentage but little did he know that Corrales has been knocking people out in the past 2- 3 years as his step up in class has increased! Most of his none KO fights are in the beginning of his career. Jezreel is the kind of fighter i like to watch, active, fast, going in there looking for the knockout. i also like how he ran away a bit the last few seconds of the first round, securing the round. Smart boxing.
Yes he may have been an ageing champion but i also think he struggled with the style of someone who fights so sharp one second & then so reckless and awkward the next to get the KO! Corrales may have been fortunate to get a champion on the out sure. But give credit to a guy who may be a little green & has never fought at that level & impressed too.
Be happy Lomachenko is on his FOURTH world title shot with only SEVEN fights under his belt bro
;)
Well you know why not Walters or salido. They wanted more then they were gonna pay. So I'm guessing your not buying into the hype?
Hype of what? Lomachenko?
My opinion on him is the same as any unproven fighter...that he is unproven. There is obvious skill there but nowhere near the way HBO like to present it or brainwashed fans like to think.
I'll rate Loma the same way I rate any fighter, after he beats top fighters. He has yet to do that.
2 of the last 5 fights in which Corrales had a KO/stoppage win before Uchiyama had losing records, one of them only had 2 wins lol Those are step ups in your opinion? The best guy Corrales faced pre-Uchiyama was that guy who had lost o Fortuna a few years back. Can't remember his name.
So the KO win was not something to be expected. Uchiyama getting stopped by a guy of Corrales' caliber tells us more about Uchiyama than it does corrales.
And what the hell does that last sentence even mean? Loma fought for 2 vacant titles and went 1-1. He ten beat Martinez, a fighter past his best but I can take that win. It was decent...but not actually special, considering Burns had already beaten a far better version. Unless Burns should be considered great too?
The only other established world class fighter Loma faced, he lost too. Loma supporters were telling me that he would face Salido next and that thats what Loma was talking about. Wheres that fight gone? Instead he fights a guy with one step up in his entire career?
Why not Vargas, Pedraza, Miura or Walters? Not only are they better known, they are better than Corrales. Can you give me one other world class opponent Corrales has beaten? Or has he done more in his career than the guys I just listed?
All of them are 130 pounders btw.
Well you know why not Walters or salido. They wanted more then they were gonna pay. So I'm guessing your not buying into the hype?
Corrales fights like he wants to be Rigo... very similar movement, albeit not as fast or coordinated. Not a bad fight here...Would of preferred Salido though.... Hopefully they put this on the Manny undercard.
The champion looked very confident thinking he was fighting someone with a low KO percentage but little did he know that Corrales has been knocking people out in the past 2- 3 years as his step up in class has increased! Most of his none KO fights are in the beginning of his career. Jezreel is the kind of fighter i like to watch, active, fast, going in there looking for the knockout. i also like how he ran away a bit the last few seconds of the first round, securing the round. Smart boxing.
Yes he may have been an ageing champion but i also think he struggled with the style of someone who fights so sharp one second & then so reckless and awkward the next to get the KO! Corrales may have been fortunate to get a champion on the out sure. But give credit to a guy who may be a little green & has never fought at that level & impressed too.
Be happy Lomachenko is on his FOURTH world title shot with only SEVEN fights under his belt bro ;)
2 of the last 5 fights in which Corrales had a KO/stoppage win before Uchiyama had losing records, one of them only had 2 wins lol Those are step ups in your opinion? The best guy Corrales faced pre-Uchiyama was that guy who had lost o Fortuna a few years back. Can't remember his name.
So the KO win was not something to be expected. Uchiyama getting stopped by a guy of Corrales' caliber tells us more about Uchiyama than it does corrales.
And what the hell does that last sentence even mean? Loma fought for 2 vacant titles and went 1-1. He ten beat Martinez, a fighter past his best but I can take that win. It was decent...but not actually special, considering Burns had already beaten a far better version. Unless Burns should be considered great too?
The only other established world class fighter Loma faced, he lost too. Loma supporters were telling me that he would face Salido next and that thats what Loma was talking about. Wheres that fight gone? Instead he fights a guy with one step up in his entire career?
Why not Vargas, Pedraza, Miura or Walters? Not only are they better known, they are better than Corrales. Can you give me one other world class opponent Corrales has beaten? Or has he done more in his career than the guys I just listed?
All of them are 130 pounders btw.
Yes it was a major upset, I was shocked he lost, but it did'nt really show anything about Uchiyama we did'nt already know imo. If you watched the guys career, he has always struggled with southpaws for some reason. I think it is a stretch to call him shot. I will agree with you that Loma probably makes easy work of Jezreel simply because the guy is super sloppy and I don't see Loma getting caught with them looping shots like Uchiyama did.
If not shot then Uchiyama is definitely on the way to being shot. Remember, this is a guy who at one time wash ighly regarded as possibly p4p and had been THE guy in the division for years now. For him to go out like that against a fighter like Corrales tells us more about the Jap than it does the champ.
Corrales had 7 KO wins in over 20 bouts before facing Uchiyama. The Jap was an undefeated world title holder, the longest reigning in the division at the time and had only been dropped once or twice in recent memory. He then proceeded to get bludgeoned in 2 rounds by a man with a KO percentage of 30%.
Does that tell you Corrales is a feared puncher or does that tell you Uchiyama was not at his best, most likely due to age and increased number of recent injuries?
So what credit am I taking away from Corrales?
The champion looked very confident thinking he was fighting someone with a low KO percentage but little did he know that Corrales has been knocking people out in the past 2- 3 years as his step up in class has increased! Most of his none KO fights are in the beginning of his career. Jezreel is the kind of fighter i like to watch, active, fast, going in there looking for the knockout. i also like how he ran away a bit the last few seconds of the first round, securing the round. Smart boxing.
Yes he may have been an ageing champion but i also think he struggled with the style of someone who fights so sharp one second & then so reckless and awkward the next to get the KO! Corrales may have been fortunate to get a champion on the out sure. But give credit to a guy who may be a little green & has never fought at that level & impressed too.
Be happy Lomachenko is on his FOURTH world title shot with only SEVEN fights under his belt bro ;)
It was a major upset and said more about Uchiyama who is likely a shot fighter at this stage than it does about the quality of Jezreel.
Yes it was a major upset, I was shocked he lost, but it did'nt really show anything about Uchiyama we did'nt already know imo. If you watched the guys career, he has always struggled with southpaws for some reason. I think it is a stretch to call him shot. I will agree with you that Loma probably makes easy work of Jezreel simply because the guy is super sloppy and I don't see Loma getting caught with them looping shots like Uchiyama did.
Ye that's it... Don't give credit where its due, try take it away! If it helps you cope bro ;)
Corrales had 7 KO wins in over 20 bouts before facing Uchiyama. The Jap was an undefeated world title holder, the longest reigning in the division at the time and had only been dropped once or twice in recent memory. He then proceeded to get bludgeoned in 2 rounds by a man with a KO percentage of 30%.
Does that tell you Corrales is a feared puncher or does that tell you Uchiyama was not at his best, most likely due to age and increased number of recent injuries?
So what credit am I taking away from Corrales?
It was a major upset and said more about Uchiyama who is likely a shot fighter at this stage than it does about the quality of Jezreel.
Ye that's it... Don't give credit where its due, try take it away! If it helps you cope bro ;)
Thats what im thinking and even then i read some saying it was a major upset and fluke but hey heres hoping its a legit fight
It was a major upset and said more about Uchiyama who is likely a shot fighter at this stage than it does about the quality of Jezreel.
people calling this a good fight cos theyve only seen him fight uchiyama.
Corrales has 8 KOs in a 20+ fight career and only 1 step up in his entire career. Another cherry for Loma to pick.
What happened to all those guys telling me Loma would get revenge on Salido?
Thats what im thinking and even then i read some saying it was a major upset and fluke but hey heres hoping its a legit fight
Safe to say you think Espinoza was being disingenuous when he sent this tweet earlier this year?
Stephen Espinoza
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Stephen Espinoza Retweeted Chris Jones Jr
Bob wants it only on the date we already have Provodnikov-Molina...so we can't. If he were flexible, he'd get 1.1M+.
I'm saying that Stephen Espinoza knows the figurative devil that Arum is, and will handle his business accordingly. I don't ever foresee a day where Espinoza would invest in Top Rank for anything, again.
If Espinoza said that, for a different date, he would've offered $1.1m then that's what he said; would Arum have delivered Martinez-Lomachenko and Verdejo-Martinez for $1.1m? I doubt it.
Take the card that they put on at the Theater at MSG, pull the Verdejo fight and Shiming fight, and that's probably what you Top Rank would've offered for Espinoza's date (or, as is more likely, use the fact that Showtime put down a significant dollar figure for the fight as leverage to try to negotiate a better deal from HBO to keep Verdejo there, with no plan to actually go anywhere).
The talks are ridiculously early, but I don't see Espinoza having any issue putting some money up to air Crawford-Diaz, were that fight to actually be worked out; paired with the likely SHO International matinee broadcast of Burns-Broner, I'd imagine that Espinoza would be more than happy to pay Lou Dibella the fee need to put on a doubleheader, paired with the re-air, that would have Crawford-Diaz in the main event.
Felix Diaz gets a chance to break through, and the co-feature will likely be a bout that Showtime, for sure, can use to build to future programming.
Why give Arum the money to air three fights, knowing full well that he'd take his fighters right back to HBO were something to change that frees up more money for Top Rank (ie Ward beating Kovalev and leaving HBO, Golovkin getting beat badly, etc)?
I never knew much of Corrales before he KO'ed Uchiyama, but the guy has a mean streak going. I pointed it out before, he has only 8KO's in his career, but 6 KO's have been in his last 6 fights so the dude is obviously eating right or learned something new or is just plain sitting on his punches. Imagine Paulie getting 6 KO's straight all of a sudden, including a KO against #1 ranked welterweight
I'm not saying he's going to beat Lomachenko, I got Loma winning, just saying this guy came out of nowhere and should not be taken lightly
people calling this a good fight cos theyve only seen him fight uchiyama.
Corrales has 8 KOs in a 20+ fight career and only 1 step up in his entire career. Another cherry for Loma to pick.
What happened to all those guys telling me Loma would get revenge on Salido?
Arum has too much bad blood everywhere else that I doubt that there's anywhere for Arum to really jump to; remember that Arum went to the market with his biggest bargaining chip (Manny Pacquiao) and almost literally drew no interest from any broadcaster (there was no rumor of any TV partner even really sitting out to ponder what a deal could look like).
I doubt you ever see a TR-produced show end up on Showtime as long as Bob Arum is living.
Safe to say you think Espinoza was being disingenuous when he sent this tweet earlier this year?
Stephen Espinoza
@StephenEspinoza
Stephen Espinoza Retweeted Chris Jones Jr
Bob wants it only on the date we already have Provodnikov-Molina...so we can't. If he were flexible, he'd get 1.1M+.
I cannot believe Lomachenko is going for his Fourth world title! This is ridiculous stuff.. Corrales just destroyed Takashi Uchiyama too so he's no scrub! Corrales is also a southpaw so should be interesting!