HBO was at a new low today...

that was the worst HBO broadcast of a fight I ever saw. lampley looked and sounded like he just shot heroin Hopkins was smart saw a lot but both retards did not see the knockdown that was called a slip. ref and judges were a disgrace. the commentating had no life very listless. sorry I thought this thread was about the kell crook GGG fight no need to apologize, both commentating was good. i wish bhop was 1 of the cuadras vs gonzalez commentators. I like Roy but hes a yes man.

It was really off the mark from what I was seeing so I muted it after the 4th. That network seems to be dying a fast death this year. Ward/Kovalev had better set the world on fire or I'd hate to think what becomes of hbo in 2017. that was the worst HBO broadcast of a fight I ever saw. lampley looked and sounded like he just shot heroin Hopkins was smart saw a lot but both retards did not see the knockdown that was called a slip. ref and judges were a disgrace. the commentating had no life very listless. sorry I thought this thread was about the kell crook GGG fight

I liked how RJJ and Kellerman corrected him with his running remarks but RJJ and Kellerman were bias too but I can understand, they have jobs to protect but Lederman a lone made me cancel HBO. I will buy Ward vs Kovalev but thats it!!! To be fair Cuadras's own corner after the 7th or the 8th asked him why he was running so much. After that he settled down and started to win some rounds. Good fight that Roman edged.

Not sure I can do that, I don't keep count dude, and it's not worth the effort to recollect. But like I said depending on the fighters fighting they can be just as biased, I remember them dickriding the **** out of Garcia, a fighter that they have invested a lot in. You can't do it because it doesn't happen to the extent that HBo does it. Give me 1 garcia fight they did it in Yeah everyone has their house fighters that they favour. I watched Frampton/Cruz on a UK stream and they were favouring Frampton but at least they admitted that it was close and gave a honest account of the fight HBO throws reason out the window and makes a great close fight seem like a 1 sided drubbing

What fights though. There is no way they d.ick ride as much as HBO Care to give some examples of this , because last night disgracefull Not sure I can do that, I don't keep count dude, and it's not worth the effort to recollect. But like I said depending on the fighters fighting they can be just as biased, I remember them dickriding the **** out of Garcia, a fighter that they have invested a lot in.

Maybe I need to watch the fight again. In the RbR, I thought people were giving a little too much credit to Cuadras... it's common that when a guy like Gonzalez who usually steamrolls everyone faces a game opponent, everyone hangs on that game opponents every punch (Mayweather-Cotto). I though Cuadras was great, but he was missing a lot of punches too (his flashy four punch combos were almost always air or gloves), and basically felt the story of the fight was Cuadras had the better and stronger punches, but Gonzalez was just landing way more in my eyes. The second half of the fight Cuadras put a beating on Gonzalez, but he had lost 4 of the opening six rounds and Gonzalez still had a lot of good rounds in the second half. I didnt have the commentary on, but didn't disagree too much with Lederman's card. He gave the last two both to Cuadras is I remember correctly, which I def agreed with, and he scored the opening 4 right as well... cant recall the rest.

I disagree, depending on the fighters fighting they can be just as biased. What fights though. There is no way they d.ick ride as much as HBO Care to give some examples of this , because last night disgracefull

Im being honest when I say I don't recall PBC d.ick riding to point of nauseam like HBo does That's the one thing I give PBC props for is they usually shoot down the middle I disagree, depending on the fighters fighting they can be just as biased.

U know I can understand bias commentating it happens for the "house" fighter but HBO was PATHETIC! PBCs commentating on spike Friday was pro Easter but Commey got a ton of props and they left the scoring to the judges. That was a close fight i thought Commey edged it and he gained a fan in me but it was really close. Cuadras vs Gonzalez was close but there was a clear winner and that winner lost. I didn't see the HBO version of the fight man, so maybe it was as bad as you guys claim, but I have also heard some infuriating commentary during PBC fights. Most notably during Danny Garcia fights. I thought it was a close fight, but I had Gonzalez wining. I know commentary can sometime be infuriating to listen to, but generally if the network has a made a large investment in a fighter the commentary will be very biased, just how things are.

Because PBC doesn't have biased commentating... Im being honest when I say I don't recall PBC d.ick riding to point of nauseam like HBo does That's the one thing I give PBC props for is they usually shoot down the middle

Because PBC doesn't have biased commentating... U know I can understand bias commentating it happens for the "house" fighter but HBO was PATHETIC! PBCs commentating on spike Friday was pro Easter but Commey got a ton of props and they left the scoring to the judges. That was a close fight i thought Commey edged it and he gained a fan in me but it was really close. Cuadras vs Gonzalez was close but there was a clear winner and that winner lost.

I thought I was the only one that thought that the d.i k riding the whole crew was doing was pathetic damn near ruined a great fight I didn't score the fight but from watching it I thought Caudres did enough or damn near and Max & Lederman has Romans d.ick so far down their throat I'm suprised they didn't choke . Im going to rewatch and score it but HBo has turned Into such a joke, At this rate boxing fans better hope PBc suceeds because what HBo is doing to the sport isn't good. f.ucking disgusting Because PBC doesn't have biased commentating...

Honestly after last night I take back everything i ever said about PBC. I hope HBO crumbles. They really screwed over a demographic of fans that have been loyal for years. Mexican fans have needed a premier signature win & the fix was in. If u get a chance bro watch it on mute... Yeah man Its been that way for years but it's getting worse I didn't score the fight last night but knew after a couple rounds that HBO was on their house fighter BUll****, Kellerman & Lederman should be ashamed especially since it was such a great fight I'm going to watch it again muted and score it just so I can give a honest assessment but from watching it last night I thought Cudras did enough for the win

I thought Lederman's scoring was off and the judges cards were too wide, but ultimately I do think Chocolatito was the deserving winner

I don't take commentators seriously, including their unofficial scorers, in any network. You gotta be dumb to. Obviously, they have their own biases and leanings. They're humans. What exactly would you expect? In the end, it will be the judges that would decide who wins. Commentators obviously have nothing to do with the result.

Well said dude. Kellerman's extreme bias compounded with awful play by play was hard to stomach. He and Lederman were a disgrace. I was legit yelling at the TV last night at times. Roy isn’t assertive enough to get his points across especially when he's contradicting what the other two mopes were saying. Kellerman not only seemed genuinely schocked that Gonzalez's face was was getting rearranged because both he & Lederman felt that Cuadras had no pop were not hitting the supremely skilled offensive & subtlety slick defensive eizard Chocolatito but in Lederman's absurd opinion was running. Everything was poorly and amateurly done from the spot ads to post fight interview, closing EVERYTHING. Why no interview from Cuadras? Was it because they knew he would strongly disagree with the results & the crowd may have reacted vociferously with disapproving boos? Scorecards were a disgrace as well.

I thought I was the only one that thought that the d.i k riding the whole crew was doing was pathetic damn near ruined a great fight I didn't score the fight but from watching it I thought Caudres did enough or damn near and Max & Lederman has Romans d.ick so far down their throat I'm suprised they didn't choke . Im going to rewatch and score it but HBo has turned Into such a joke, At this rate boxing fans better hope PBc suceeds because what HBo is doing to the sport isn't good. f.ucking disgusting Honestly after last night I take back everything i ever said about PBC. I hope HBO crumbles. They really screwed over a demographic of fans that have been loyal for years. Mexican fans have needed a premier signature win & the fix was in. If u get a chance bro watch it on mute...

The punch stats were way out of whack, there is no way Gonzalez landed a higher percentage of shots than Cuadras he was missing a lot. I thought they were off in the Golovkin fight also. Lederman favors aggression always has if I didn't see his scorecard I would have figured he had Gonzalez by a decent margin. Max had an odd night because he was all over Gonzalez's dick but then talk about Cuadras being competitive. Max hasn't done too much boxing blow by blow so I can forgive his lack of flow with it and he was kind of stuck between that and his normal 3rd man in the both gig. I though Roy did alright and he did force Kellerman to further acknowledge Cuadras work beyond what he naturally did. I mean I can understand Kellerman & RJJ being bias to HBO's vested interest but at the same time Cuadras couldve become a star too with a win. It was also so obvious that HBO wants Gonzalez vs Inoue

I thought I was the only one that thought that the d.i k riding the whole crew was doing was pathetic damn near ruined a great fight I didn't score the fight but from watching it I thought Caudres did enough or damn near and Max & Lederman has Romans d.ick so far down their throat I'm suprised they didn't choke . Im going to rewatch and score it but HBo has turned Into such a joke, At this rate boxing fans better hope PBc suceeds because what HBo is doing to the sport isn't good. f.ucking disgusting

Agreed....