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The WBA says they will order Golovkin to fight Jacobs next (and there will be pressure on them and the fighters to not let this fall through)
Obviously, Golovkin is the A side but Jacobs wants to be paid very well. Then there is the whole new york insurance requirements and the fact that despite being a big fight, it isn't a fight that will be a huge commercial success on PPV.
My question is that if Golovkin puts on a great show against Brook, gains more UK fans, and the ppv there sells a big amount (which it seems like it will), plus the fact that the UK is just a great market for boxing right now (where in America, barely any fighters can sell tickets or ppvs)....could Golovkin vs Jacobs work better financially for the fighters and the overall event if it placed in the UK...maybe with Joshua as a co-feature?
I think it is a great idea when the "price has to be right"..."i have to be compensated"..."there isn't enough money in the fight yet"...excuses start to get used.
Can this fight support $7-8 million in the main event purses if Golovkin makes a big splash in the UK? Talk to me.
I would say why not? The main event being two American fighters was never an issue back in the day. The Rumble In the Jungle, Zaire. The Thrilla in Manila, Phillipines. Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson, Japan.
It's clear beyond that that Jacobs' camp sees more value in Daniel Jacobs than Golovkin's camp sees in Gennady Golovkin.
Don't get scared now; the WBA is either mandating the fight in the next week, or they're going to mandate Jacobs-Blanco for the vacated WBA "super" championship.
Scared nothing, I'm giddy for Monday!
Quillin refused to even try to make a Golovkin fight. Now Jacobs has to pay.
80/20 split dude, your reaching hard.
Come Monday, Danny will have to decide whether to accept the pocket change K2 throws into his cup, or vacate his interim belt.
It's clear beyond that that Jacobs' camp sees more value in Daniel Jacobs than Golovkin's camp sees in Gennady Golovkin.
Don't get scared now; the WBA is either mandating the fight in the next week, or they're going to mandate Jacobs-Blanco for the vacated WBA "super" championship.
hilarious to see you try to act like Wade getting 5 times the money he's ever seen for a fight is nothing, even though Willie Monroe Jr, less than a year before that, was brought in to fight for $100k.
Avoid the reality all you want
80/20 split dude, your reaching hard.
Come Monday, Danny will have to decide whether to accept the pocket change K2 throws into his cup, or vacate his interim belt.
$500k is nothing, stop acting like Wade got some kind of victory. Golovkin took $2mill for that fight, lol!!! That's an 80/20 split, less than a purse bid split!!! LOL!
Nice try, now go away kid.
hilarious to see you try to act like Wade getting 5 times the money he's ever seen for a fight is nothing, even though Willie Monroe Jr, less than a year before that, was brought in to fight for $100k.
Avoid the reality all you want
Willie Monroe Jr got $100k. You look at Golovkin's last 10 opponents and how many of them earned $500k?
nice try
$500k is nothing, stop acting like Wade got some kind of victory. Golovkin took $2mill for that fight, lol!!! That's an 80/20 split, less than a purse bid split!!! LOL!
Nice try, now go away kid.
K2 paid Wade $500k, which the going rate for a mediocre Golovkin opponent. Stop pretending they broke the bank for Wade, lol. Curtis Stevens got $350k three years earlier. Geale got $600k coming off his loss to Barker.
Jacobs a budding ppv star? We're done...
Willie Monroe Jr got $100k. You look at Golovkin's last 10 opponents and how many of them earned $500k?
nice try
Golovkin-Wade didn't go to purse bid because K2 literally paid Wade 5 times the money he's ever seen for a fight. K2 will do no such thing to circumvent a Jacobs bid.
Showtime/Haymon, rightly or wrongly, have invested their money in putting on Jacobs-Quillin, with that fight ending in a highlight reel KO. I have no doubt that Showtime/Haymon is going to keep investing in Daniel Jacobs, especially at this point.
If Jacobs gets the job done, Showtime has a budding PPV fighter and NYC draw, to go along with Wilder, Joshua, Danny Garcia, Kell Brook, Stevenson (possibly Ward as well), and the rest of the rising talent coming along in the seeming SHO/PBC orbit (have said this for some time now, but PBC ending up with CBS/Viacom, with fights aired on CBS, Showtime, SpikeTV, CBS Sports Network, etc, has always been the most obvious outcome).
Daniel Jacobs is a 29-year old, American, top middleweight fighter out of Brooklyn, NYC, who's fought back from cancer, is well spoken, has a touch of edge to him, but comes to the table with no skeletons, and a real community backing him; Showtime/Haymon know the market potential for Jacobs as well.
K2 paid Wade $500k, which the going rate for a mediocre Golovkin opponent. Stop pretending they broke the bank for Wade, lol. Curtis Stevens got $350k three years earlier. Geale got $600k coming off his loss to Barker.
Jacobs a budding ppv star? We're done...
Just stop. You're the same tard who said Haymon would force Golovkin/Wade to purse bid and Golovkin would have to vacate.
Haymon/Showtime lost major money on the Quillin/Jacobs fight, you're arguing about Haymon making money off of Golovkin. K2 knows the market potential for the fight and that's what they would bid.
Golovkin-Wade didn't go to purse bid because K2 literally paid Wade 5 times the money he's ever seen for a fight. K2 will do no such thing to circumvent a Jacobs bid.
Showtime/Haymon, rightly or wrongly, have invested their money in putting on Jacobs-Quillin, with that fight ending in a highlight reel KO. I have no doubt that Showtime/Haymon is going to keep investing in Daniel Jacobs, especially at this point.
If Jacobs gets the job done, Showtime has a budding PPV fighter and NYC draw, to go along with Wilder, Joshua, Danny Garcia, Kell Brook, Stevenson (possibly Ward as well), and the rest of the rising talent coming along in the seeming SHO/PBC orbit (have said this for some time now, but PBC ending up with CBS/Viacom, with fights aired on CBS, Showtime, SpikeTV, CBS Sports Network, etc, has always been the most obvious outcome).
Daniel Jacobs is a 29-year old, American, top middleweight fighter out of Brooklyn, NYC, who's fought back from cancer, is well spoken, has a touch of edge to him, but comes to the table with no skeletons, and a real community backing him; Showtime/Haymon know the market potential for Jacobs as well.
Why do 12k at Barclays when they could pack MSG to the rafters?
1)Barclays Center seats well more than 12k people
2) Brooklyn Boxing and Lou DiBella have already built the New York audience to the point that the New York boxing fan is regularly coming out for the fights.
3)I'm fairly certain that Barclays Center won't have their tickets priced at/near $20
4)If Golovkin doesn't have the type of heat to help bring in enough money to sell out Barclays Center, on top of the effort that Brooklyn Boxing/Lou DiBella have done to build the market, Golovkin is for sure not worth the money that he's seemingly looking for to fight.
That fight screams "NYC"
Jacobs is from BK and Golovkin has a history in NY already.
No brainer there.
There is the issue now though with NY raising their insurance costs the Promoter has to front which is now $1 Mill.
The premium on the new extra insurance rule, from my reading of it, isn't an event killer for the marquee events; fights at big fights at Barclays Center or MSG should still be good.
The issue comes for basically every other fight card; with the new rules, again from what I've read, it no longer makes sense, financially, for promoters to run events at the Theater at MSG or other, smaller venues.
If Golovkin wins, impresses people and the numbers are good, it would mean potential fights with Eubank, BJS, DeGale would be bigger than if he'd never fought here. But I don't ever see GGG-Jacobs being a UK PPV fight. Not sure how much love Jacobs-Quillin got in the US but over here no casuals cared about it and no one knows Jacobs.
British fans are passionate but they are also patriotic to the point that I don't see Golovkin filling large venues and selling PPVs against non-British opponents without a lot changing. Kovalev looked great destroying Cleverly in the UK but none of his fights since would've done well here and him fighting Ward here wouldn't sell well either.
No point mentioning Joshua as co-feature as of course it sells in those circumstances. My aunt vs my uncle would sell on UK PPV if Anthony Joshua was co-feature and they've been dead 20 years.
Jack/DeGale have til Sept 13th to make their fight, otherwise Jack will have to fight Callum Smith, and that could free DeGale up for a Golovkin fight in December (assuming Saunders and Jacobs don't want it).
That's not true (especially if DiBella/Haymon win the bid, as I doubt that K2 is ready to put anywhere near $6m behind winning the bid).
K2 bids $4m ($3m to Golovkin, $1m to Jacobs, any upside staying on K2's side), dBE/Haymon bids $4.5m ($3.4m to Golovkin, $1.1m to Jacobs, any upside staying with dBE).
With $4.5 on the line, DiBella simply needs to maximize the money on his side; sponsorship/site fee from Barclays Center, Showtime's support for SHOPPV vs what Showtime Championship Boxing is willing to pay, what type of interest can the event draw from UK TV, what type of interest can the event draw in Montreal, what type of money can be commanded for the fight in Germany, what does the money for the rest of the EU/Eastern Europe, what type of sponsorships can be drummed up for the event, etc.
Add it up all of the pieces (with Jacobs being cut in on the upside, as his promoter bears sole responsibility for the event), and Jacobs is going to make out just fine on the fight (should easily take home more than he got on the Quillin fight), with the chance to launch into the stratosphere were he to actually win the fight.
Beyond that, if K2 was actually open to risking $4m on an event, they would've done it already for their top fighter.
Just stop. You're the same tard who said Haymon would force Golovkin/Wade to purse bid and Golovkin would have to vacate.
Haymon/Showtime lost major money on the Quillin/Jacobs fight, you're arguing about Haymon making money off of Golovkin. K2 knows the market potential for the fight and that's what they would bid.
It would sell well in terms of tickets but not PPV. We only pay about 20 dollars for PPV so it would need to do 250k to generate 5m which is probably more than what Frampton-Quigg did.
When was the last time that a truly meaningful fight was held at "the Mecca"?
Maybe, you'll disagree, but Barclays Center has taken New York's boxing tradition and brought the sport back to the forefront in a truly meaningful way (beyond "hey, look Boriquas, a Puerto Rican fighter who you can watch fight after the parade).
Madison Square Garden is no longer the premier boxing venue in New York
Why do 12k at Barclays when they could pack MSG to the rafters?
It'd probably sell but I doubt they'd take the risk. MSG or Barclay's are such obvious locations for it given that Jacobs is fighting out of BK (where he stopped Quillin) and that GGG has sold well in NYC before against Lemieux.
MSG will almost surely be the choice. Has more seats for a fight that probably sells out, plus it's not even a half hour away from the Barclay's by subway.
A fight of that magnitude belongs at the Mecca.
When was the last time that a truly meaningful fight was held at "the Mecca"?
Maybe, you'll disagree, but Barclays Center has taken New York's boxing tradition and brought the sport back to the forefront in a truly meaningful way (beyond "hey, look Boriquas, a Puerto Rican fighter who you can watch fight after the parade).
Madison Square Garden is no longer the premier boxing venue in New York
That fight screams "NYC"
Jacobs is from BK and Golovkin has a history in NY already.
No brainer there.
There is the issue now though with NY raising their insurance costs the Promoter has to front which is now $1 Mill.
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