JOE JOYCE was last night robbed of Olympic super heavyweight boxing gold - says Anthony Joshua. Joyce failed in his quest to end Team GB's Olympic gold rush in style by losing a split decision to France's Tony Yoka. Joshua, the IBF heavyweight world champion, was victorious in this class four years ago at London 2012 Click Here To Read More]
100% lost to Savon. Svaon needs to forget about the ameteur gam rethat has screwed him so badly, and jump straight into the deep at at heavyweight in the pros.
Savon would be great cruiserweight.
Not really relevant though is it. It's just a remark to try and belittle joshua. Misses the mark though because he's so much more successful than savon even if you take away his gold medal
It is relevant because the thread is about an olympic robbery, not Joshua's career.
Nobody is saying Joshua hasn't had a better career than those he was gifted wins against 4 years ago. No need to get upset and defensive.
But where are they now?
Joshua is IBF heavyweight champion and multi millionaire
Where is erislandy savon?
Nobody is talking about now though, just saying Joshua got a gift in the olympics, which he did.
for me,you lost against savon and roberto!!!
100% lost to Savon. Svaon needs to forget about the ameteur gam rethat has screwed him so badly, and jump straight into the deep at at heavyweight in the pros.
I think Yoka just edged but I could see the reason why some people think it should have gone the other way. There have been a lot of dodgy decisions in this Olympics. Did anyone see the Kazak vs the Russian in the heavyweight final? Now that was a robbery.
Levit vs Tishenko was another level. Not sure i can remember a worse one in Am boxing tbh
I think Yoka just edged but I could see the reason why some people think it should have gone the other way. There have been a lot of dodgy decisions in this Olympics. Did anyone see the Kazak vs the Russian in the heavyweight final? Now that was a robbery.
If you watch that fight without any patriotic bias then you would see that Yoka won, Joyce is just too robotic, he gives a new name to the mummy, Yoka was more fluid and made it look good to the judges. Yes Yoka looked gassed from the bodywork that Joe put in but he also was jabbing Joyce head off whilst landing some of his own right hand shots. To be honest both of them are not really good enough to turn pro of do something big in the pro game, especially Joyce who should just stay out of the pro game altogether.
Plenty of Americans on other forums and a podcast that i listen to called it a robbery.
Joyce's body work was absolutely clean, quality work. Far more effective than the head shots that Yoka was landing and he landed more of them too. Thats not even taking into account Joyces extremely underrated jab which was snapping Yoka's head back aswell.
Call me a biased brit or whatever, its a lazy way out of the argument. One of the judges had the fight 3-0 to Yoka, which tells me all i need to know about Joyces chances of winning going into the fight
If you watch that fight without any patriotic bias then you would see that Yoka won, Joyce is just too robotic, he gives a new name to the mummy, Yoka was more fluid and made it look good to the judges. Yes Yoka looked gassed from the bodywork that Joe put in but he also was jabbing Joyce head off whilst landing some of his own right hand shots. To be honest both of them are not really good enough to turn pro of do something big in the pro game, especially Joyce who should just stay out of the pro game altogether.
:rofl::rofl:
Yet Yoka is a world champion amateur and an olympic gold medalist.
Yoka also won the olympic youth beating Parker in the final, next Josh opponent, the irony...
Joyce a painter, deal with it, swallow it, and go to the bed buddy.
Even some brits like Plunge tend to admit Yoka beat Joyce.
Yoka lost to Hrgovic in the semis aswell. This isnt about brit bias
Joyce landed more punches, harder punches, out worked and dominated the pace of the fight. Yoka landed a few feather duster shots, but nowhere near enough imo. Joyce hurt Yoka several times especially to the body.
Yoka also benefited when Nistor was robbed vs the jordanian bloke giving Yoka a much easier route. He still looked pretty poor vs him.
He clearly beat Hergovic and Joyce.
Yoka is an effective, clean fighter, you just don't know how to judge a fight.
Plus, Yoka hurt his ankle in the Hergovic fight, that's why he looked sometimes hurt in the semi and the final.
My statement was based on the three rounds I watched. Joyce, threw more punches no doubt, but the majority of them where blocked on Yoka's gloves and elbows. All the while Yoka was snapping Joyces head back with jabs and landed a few solid right hands bang on Joyce's chin.
I tend to side with the quality of ones work over the quantity of another.
So does boxing rules...
Joyce has poor timing and got tagged the whole fight brawling Yoka arms.
Yoka covered pretty well, but Joyce offered no variety with his punches.
His body work wasn't solid or effective so never really scored points.
For the sake of boxing he lost, would have been a second gift for a HW brit in a row.
You know Adam you won't convince people who wanted this medal to be brit, they're deluded, but at the end of the day, this medal will remain in France along with also Yoka's world amateur gold medal.
Yoka is the best SHW amateur of this generation, hell, Hergovic is better than Joyce IMO.
How about landing the harder shots more often? Or are we ignoring the mountain of clean hard bodyshots that Joyce was landing in favour of a few jabs from Yoka? Joyce also landed a fair few headshots as well, clean jabs and right hands.
But no, a few jabs from Yoka was enough to win him the fight.
My statement about Yoka is based on his performances in APB and WSB where he looks like ****e over 5 rnds
My statement was based on the three rounds I watched. Joyce, threw more punches no doubt, but the majority of them where blocked on Yoka's gloves and elbows. All the while Yoka was snapping Joyces head back with jabs and landed a few solid right hands bang on Joyce's chin.
I tend to side with the quality of ones work over the quantity of another.
Yoka finished every round the stronger of the two and was landing flush jabs in between Joyce' wide punches throughout.
I understand your point of view considering the British commentators were rooting heavily for Joyce and that may have had an influence on you as well as the lads i was watching the fight with.
The better work was clearly carried out by Yoka. You don't win fights based on 'effort' and 'work-rate'.
How about landing the harder shots more often? Or are we ignoring the mountain of clean hard bodyshots that Joyce was landing in favour of a few jabs from Yoka? Joyce also landed a fair few headshots as well, clean jabs and right hands.
But no, a few jabs from Yoka was enough to win him the fight.
My statement about Yoka is based on his performances in APB and WSB where he looks like ****e over 5 rnds
Yoka's stamina is terrible. He gasses after 3. Joyce was hurting Yoka to the body, whereas Yoka barely even made Joyce flinch.
Only one guy was gonna go on and get a ko if it had gone past 3
Yoka finished every round the stronger of the two and was landing flush jabs in between Joyce' wide punches throughout.
I understand your point of view considering the British commentators were rooting heavily for Joyce and that may have had an influence on you as well as the lads i was watching the fight with.
The better work was clearly carried out by Yoka. You don't win fights based on 'effort' and 'work-rate'.
Does anyone know where I can find a replay of the fight?
BBC Iplayer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p042zddd/olympic-boxing-finals-sunday-ft-joe-joyce
Joyce was certainly the busier fighter, but I felt the majority of his work was arm punches that were being blocked. Yoka, was fighting well on the back foot and was landing hard crisp counters throughout the fight.
2-1 Yoka.
If that was a 10 rounder, Yoka would have KO'd Joyce by the 7th.
Yoka's stamina is terrible. He gasses after 3. Joyce was hurting Yoka to the body, whereas Yoka barely even made Joyce flinch.
Only one guy was gonna go on and get a ko if it had gone past 3
Joyce was certainly the busier fighter, but I felt the majority of his work was arm punches that were being blocked. Yoka, was fighting well on the back foot and was landing hard crisp counters throughout the fight.
2-1 Yoka.
If that was a 10 rounder, Yoka would have KO'd Joyce by the 7th.