is Wilder a legit heavyweight force?

I honestly think he beats Fury. Maybe I'm crazy, but I would bet on it. Fury doesn't like being backed up and a fast fisted fighter will cause him problems. Ortiz seems the more complete fighter, but is his resume really any better than Wilder? The division is either unproven or old for the most part. Can't really blame Wilder for the state of it unless you wan5 to point fingers at everyone else. That's pretty much my point of this thread. Where did you get the idea he doesn't like being backed up from? Aside from the klitschko fight, the few times I've seen him get backed up and onto the backfoot he's smashed the guy to pieces and/or knocked them down and/or out. https://s32.postimg.org/va930b47p/ALL.gif https://s31.postimg.org/q54zbxr1n/Backfoot.gif https://s32.postimg.org/kzn4os9gl/insta2.gif Other times when people push forward he tangles them up like an octopus.

Heavyweight boxing is a different animal and is not like the lower weight classes that have been much more prominent. Range and power play a huge part in all weight classes but they are amplified at heavy because these are big boys that bring the pain so advantages in those areas are critical. These advantages also don't really go away over time. Wilder has other much more perishable assets like speed and athleticism but being only 31 he has a good few years before that become a problem unless injuries bring that on sooner. I know one thing about Wilder out of all the American heavies I watch Wilder is the one that has something different, he has flaws and will eventually get beat I have no doubt. He is however very effective and with his attributes fighting him is no easy task, I remember Malinaggi talking about Wilder and saying something like "it seems so simple to avoid the right hand then counter, but if you avoid a missile it is not so easy just to reset and make something happen" so dealing with Wilder is much easier said than done and a lot of people don't really see that.

Well they can all fight each other and we can find out, why do fans ask questions as if guys are retired and will never fight each other. TO BE DETERMINED is the Answer! Fight Joshua, Povetkin, Fury, Parker then who ever is left standing after they all fight each other is THE BEST it is that simple

Of course he is, dude is big af and has bombs in his fists, also has alot of speed and good conditioning.

I think he is. Top three at least. Hard to tell with Fury, his only major win was Klitschko and no one knows how much Wlad has left. Joshua's best win was Martin and who knows what that means. Anyone of these champions might to be able to beat the other so Wilder is up there.

If Wilder isn't a "force" in the HW division, I'm not sure who is. Guy is 6'7", knocks over small buildings with his punches, has very fast hands and reactions, and is tough as they come (beat Arreola and Stiverne with broken hands and a torn bicep). I'd take him at least 50-50 against anyone in the division including Fury, Wlad, or Joshua...

If Wilder isn't a "force" in the HW division, I'm not sure who is. Guy is 6'7", knocks over small buildings with his punches, has very fast hands and reactions, and is tough as they come (beat Arreola and Stiverne with broken hands and a torn bicep). I'd take him at least 50-50 against anyone in the division including Fury, Wlad, or Joshua...

of course hes a force. boxing fans are very negative people, yes he has flaws but hes winning and is pretty exciting. a lot of great fighters had flaws and some eventually fixed them as their careers flourished, some didn't. and some bring up his resume but then turn around n defend the likes of..... (not going there) but the bottom line is im finally happy and look forward to the HW division.

I think he is bad. His defense sucks badly and and he gets sucked into a brawl way too easily. Once he's in a brawl, he starts throwing those AWFUL windmills that hit nothing and leave him wide open.

I dont even think his technical skills are that bad really but current standards. When he fought Stiverne (his only percieved dangerous fight so far) he boxed very well off the back foot. He jabbed and moved, set up the right hands well and Stiverne barely got close to him. Granted Stiverne was atrocious that night, but Wilder showed he can box at a higher level than he often shows vs no hopers. Put him in with one of the top guys and he would look a lot more polished than he normally does i guarantee it

He's a legit force in the current HW landscape. Which isn't saying (that) much. Hopefully he can soon get the defining fights. He's 31 in a few months and it's about time.

Wilder gets far too much B.S. too much stick that he doesn't deserve yes you can question his opposition but you don't get to 30+ fights in the heavyweight division with 30+ stoppages being an absolutely **** fighter it's just absolute rubbish by some people! He has the power to KO anyone on the top 10 list and he is more than willing to bring the entertainment in fact I think he is the best heavyweight fighter to watch to get your bang for your buck.

guy is 6'7", has an 84 inch reach, fast hands, and he hits like a mule. you start with the stuff that cannot be taught. that's a tough pill to swallow, even if there's *****s in the armor. he's not lennox lewis, a great boxer with an amateur pedigree, by any shot, but this is what larry merchant said about lennox lewis: "sure there are *****s in his armor, but look at all of that armor."

Wlad is a far more skilled boxer than Wilder, compare their footwork. Yea I agree but it was his size don't get me wrong he was good at using his size which I guess is a skill

To me he's not that good it's his size 6 foot 7 that gives the trouble just like the Klitschko to me they weren't that good it was the size factor. It's like boxing with your 12 year old son using your just using size Wlad is a far more skilled boxer than Wilder, compare their footwork.

Wilder is an unskilled, stuttering imbecile with the one of the worst techniques I've ever seen, but still beats the majority of HW's due his physical attributes alone. However, that will only get him so far, when he comes up against an elite HW like Fury, Klitschko, Ortiz, he'll get completely embarrassed. He knows it, his team knows it, hence why his best opponent is still a disabled Stiverne. Povetkin was a cash out. That video of the little guy knocking the big guy will happen when Wilder fights Andy Ruiz

To me he's not that good it's his size 6 foot 7 that gives the trouble just like the Klitschko to me they weren't that good it was the size factor. It's like boxing with your 12 year old son using your just using size

Wilder is an unskilled, stuttering imbecile with the one of the worst techniques I've ever seen, but still beats the majority of HW's due his physical attributes alone. However, that will only get him so far, when he comes up against an elite HW like Fury, Klitschko, Ortiz, he'll get completely embarrassed. He knows it, his team knows it, hence why his best opponent is still a disabled Stiverne. Povetkin was a cash out.

Wilder is an unskilled, stuttering imbecile with the one of the worst techniques I've ever seen, but still beats the majority of HW's due his physical attributes alone. However, that will only get him so far, when he comes up against an elite HW like Fury, Klitschko, Ortiz, he'll get completely embarrassed. He knows it, his team knows it, hence why his best opponent is still a disabled Stiverne. Povetkin was a cash out.

NO he is a fraud, one of the most unskilled technically terrible heavyweight champions i have ever seen he is basically a 2016 version of michael grant.