Santa cruz i thought was garenteed the victory i was shocked just now watching the replay when they said frampton won,leos workrate and pushing the fight not to mention the rounds in which he provided workrate and clean straight rights
Wtf is up with boxing
well, by "putting on a show" he made the fight close. he landed some great shots but so did santa cruz leaving the viewer to decide who got the better of it.
it wasnt really anything like what rigo does, not saying that to knock either fighter as i appreciate both. but there wasnt enough similarities to say he did what rigo would have. rigo would have shut him down, frampton didnt.
i dont know what "done it the hard way" has to do with a rematch. you think he won, i to admire everything he did that night but i didnt think he won the fight. since we disagree on that it makes sense to disagree on a rematch too. where he did it and the difficulty of the task is of lesser significance.
i just hope he takes another real fight, shame he wont stop ducking rigo anytime soon.
That last part I agree with he should offer him a fight contract in 2017 after a likely fight with Selby.
True maybe he did leave it in question who was getting the better with these wild exchanges but I just personally preferred the work of a guy who was throwing shots with precision and vicious intent whereas LSC was quite sloppy for a large portion of the fight.
Carl did what Rigo would have done to Leo but with more of an intent to stand inside at times and give a show.
If anyone would surely understand what Frampton was doing you'd expect a Rigo fanboy to understand what was happening to Santa Cruz, he didn't deserve anything Carl came to his weight his hometown and he beat him fair and square no rematch needed Carl done it the hard way.
well, by "putting on a show" he made the fight close. he landed some great shots but so did santa cruz leaving the viewer to decide who got the better of it.
it wasnt really anything like what rigo does, not saying that to knock either fighter as i appreciate both. but there wasnt enough similarities to say he did what rigo would have. rigo would have shut him down, frampton didnt.
i dont know what "done it the hard way" has to do with a rematch. you think he won, i to admire everything he did that night but i didnt think he won the fight. since we disagree on that it makes sense to disagree on a rematch too. where he did it and the difficulty of the task is of lesser significance.
i just hope he takes another real fight, shame he wont stop ducking rigo anytime soon.
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The Hound : I noticed everyone ducked my post I wonder why? I even left out the jabs snapping Framptons neck...like I said its 2-1...I clearly proved that the power punch stats are false and that Cruz landed the harder cleaner punches also. Fruadton is a lucky man first he ducks Rigo gets a shot at another bum in Quig and now robs Cruz! these people see what they want to see end of story.
I like point out these are the best shot from both men - I tried to find anything I could for Frampton that was clean and solid these are the results...out of 8 or 9 nine rounds I lost count regardless it got worse for him in the championship rounds too.
Learn to score fights pal. It wasn't a robbery, close fight. I thought like most that Frampton edged it, but lots of close rounds. Frampton was definitely punching harder though and that is sometimes harder to notice on TV.
Most scribes and respectable websites I have seen had Frampton edging it, I seen quite a few draw cards, but no complaints either way.
It was close but clear. First half of the fight was all frampton, second half was close fight where rounds were harder to judge.
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How does Frampton win when Cruz's Jab outlands his 2-1 ( 64-31 DOUBLE )? you would think it would be Frampton to beat him in that department....then you got the total punch count in favor of Santa Cruz 255 too 242 -- Im still figuring this out because according to them they said Frampton outlanded in power punches but Im scanning the fight and see Cruz with the cleaner punches ; I got more it only gets worse for Frampton..Clear Robbery.
Good stuff this is how i saw the fight and i know many people that couldnt be bothered watching it sober like anorak
Its the same with may pac,its not going to make a difference to the official result but its nice to know in your own minds who the rightful winner was,
I know pac won against mayweather and i know santa cruz deserved to keep that belt especially against a guy being 90% more negative to initiate and when he did decide to counter and exchange he got pushed back everytime,im no frampton hater if he took the belt of cruz ans pushed him back like a real champ id have no problem,he didnt do enough to get that belt
I dont give a **** a robbery is a robbery i dont give a **** how close you think thw fight was thw wrong man won this fight,i dont even care for santa cruz but he fought the right fight and gave absolutely everything he would have gave his life in there
He finished the damn exchanges and made this a fight worth watching,it would have been quigg frampton action wise if leo didnt put that pace on him.
Thw fans should be backing the guys that make good fights, not the guys that backfoot all day, i remember a time where being on the front foot was counted in scoring along with initiating trades
I watched it today. Not gonna lie, I didn't try scoring the rounds. Just enjoyed the fight.
However it felt like Frampton edged it. Idk I like quality over quantity, and I felt like that was the case here.
Felt like Farhood's score card was about right.
Santa cruz i thought was garenteed the victory i was shocked just now watching the replay when they said frampton won,leos workrate and pushing the fight not to mention the rounds in which he provided workrate and clean straight rights
Wtf is up with boxing
No robbery, my initial scoring was a draw. My inclination while scoring the fight was to acknowledge Frampton's quality, over Santa Cruz's bull**** quantity. High work rate doesn't mean ***** if you aren't landing. That being said, I would have liked to see Frampton's work rate be a little higher. He showed he was the better puncher by staggering LSC. LSC can only blame himself. He tried to box Frampton instead of overwhelm him. LSC isn't that good. He is a poor man's Margarito, without the wraps.
Rigondeaux would ***** on both of them.
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Not even kidding Im half way and there is so much more and I just dont see Frampton getting the better of these exchanges and power punches...I think that mark Maoro and the other old idiot Bernstein influence how a lot of you seen this fight really....going to pause here to a minute not sure I want to keep going it clear to me by the seventh who was winning.
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How does Frampton win when Cruz's Jab outlands his 2-1 ( 64-31 DOUBLE )? you would think it would be Frampton to beat him in that department....then you got the total punch count in favor of Santa Cruz 255 too 242 -- Im still figuring this out because according to them they said Frampton outlanded in power punches but Im scanning the fight and see Cruz with the cleaner punches ; I got more it only gets worse for Frampton..Clear Robbery.
I had Leo winning
Boxnation scored it a draw while doing their best not to give Leo any rounds should let you know that Cruz won the fight
Good fight though
That's what I thought too, Barry Jones had it a draw whilst being as favourable to Frampton as possible, and the judges still had it wide as hell.
Lol, it would have been more of a robbery if LSC won. There'd be five times as many "robbed" topics. The fact there's only one topic is par for a close, exciting fight.
Down goes another Mexican we know why Canelo didn't wanna fight GGG this year Imagine having Cruz and Canelo both getting schooled in the same year!
Nah I joke I like Mexican fighters but Cruz was exposed against Frampton tonight.
I don't even know who the fck you are dude lol
Yeah I write all those points on why I think Frampton clearly won, but i'm the fanboy
Mexican fighter in his avi, Mexican fighter in his sig, saying the Mexican fighter who got exposed won the fight
Oh ya im the fanboy
lol Frampton didn't dictate shiiit first of all. They fought at LSC's pace, probably the most punches Frampton has even thrown in a fight.
So the fck what? I can't be an unbiased fan you retard? Most people saw the fight as close.
Cruz outjabbed Frampton, who was supposed to be the better jabber.
They landed pretty much the same amount of punches while Frampton got outworked. Also I don't go by punch stats. I saw Frampton landing the more eye-catching punches (counters) while LSC would 2 and 3 punch combinations to the body and head.
Really close fight, like I said, if you say Frampton by blow out then you're a biased fanboy
WTF are you rambling on about? Cruz has one of the highest percentages in the sport you fckwad.
Rarely connecting clean LMAO what fight were you watching ? :lol1:
Down goes another Mexican we know why Canelo didn't wanna fight GGG this year Imagine having Cruz and Canelo both getting schooled in the same year!
Nah I joke I like Mexican fighters but Cruz was exposed against Frampton tonight.
Are you literally stupid?
What if somebody throws 5, misses all 5, while the other guy lands 2 of his 3?
That's what happened most of this fight, get outta here man
Then you put the American flag in your post at the end, sure you aren't biased
I wanted Frampton to win because he's the underdog. He did win but in a robbery kind of way. He was doing well in the early rounds, but then LSC started to ramp it up and started outpointing the Irish man. I thought to myself, man this is hopeless. He's too small and the power wasn't enough to knock LSC down.
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:ugh: You're a fckng idiot and a fanboy. This was a close fight either way.
Yeah I write all those points on why I think Frampton clearly won, but i'm the fanboy
Mexican fighter in his avi, Mexican fighter in his sig, saying the Mexican fighter who got exposed won the fight
Oh ya im the fanboy
Not solely based on defense, no. But you made it seem like making a guy miss over and over is not a positive in terms of scoring.
Frampton was more accurate
Frampton landed the harder, more solid punches
Frampton hurt LSC
Frampton dictated the pace in that he didn't let LSC overwhelm him
Frampton had superior footwork and super defense
Frampton went on the back foot and front foot almost at will throughout the fight
Frampton outfought LSC on the inside, catching and punching with accurate counters
Frampton both started exchanges AND countered when LSC tried to get off
Anyone who really thinks LSC won this fight doesn't know anything about boxing
:ugh: You're a fckng idiot and a fanboy. This was a close fight either way.
I had Leo winning
Boxnation scored it a draw while doing their best not to give Leo any rounds should let you know that Cruz won the fight
Good fight though