Did Floyd Mayweather use PED's? (simple answer for an OG member please)

What don’t you understand exactly? Because nothing you said contradicts anything I posted. Partial sample = not enough to be tested Two partial samples = full sample. What do you need help with here? Ped’s aren’t in your system 24/7, that’s how guys avoid tests. Again, Floyd was testing fully before and after the IV and never tested positive. He gave a partial sample because he was dehydrated. You are talking about this one test, I am talking about all the others. To get on the same page-Floyd never tested positive in any pre or post fight test. He had one issue when he was dehydrated and gave a partial sample. He took saline IV. He gave another partial sample and was negative yet again. They fought. He beat Manny. Manny fans are bringing up these old threads because some posters are pointing out VADA wasn't involved with testing for this fight but instead NSAC did "VADA style" testing. This is just what you guys always do when posters raise questions about Manny and PED's deflect to Floyd. as to my initial post quoting you- Floyd would always beat Manny because he is as fast, taller, much longer reach (abnormal for someone his height), high IQ and lost importantly he doesn't fight the other guy's fight, he just fights from a distance and nullifies high output fighters punch rate with his jab and defense.

As a little G I confirm that he did

Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV by the paramedic and thereafter until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather was never outside the physical presence of the USADA DCO from long before the IV was administered until well after administration when the urine sample collection process was complete. I am sticking to the facts. That was just for that particular test, he was being tested before that and never tested positive and was providing full samples when he wasn't dehydrated. He was tested after and didn't test positive. What don’t you understand exactly? Because nothing you said contradicts anything I posted. Partial sample = not enough to be tested Two partial samples = full sample. What do you need help with here? Ped’s aren’t in your system 24/7, that’s how guys avoid tests.

What isn’t true? Stop veering off into your projections, stick to the facts. https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV by the paramedic and thereafter until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather was never outside the physical presence of the USADA DCO from long before the IV was administered until well after administration when the urine sample collection process was complete. I am sticking to the facts. That was just for that particular test, he was being tested before that and never tested positive and was providing full samples when he wasn't dehydrated. He was tested after and didn't test positive.

That isn't true he was testing before the fight. Look dude I get it, the loss stings. Must suck watching your hero lose to a guy you despise. Happened to me when SRL beat Hagler. The difference is I got over it. I suggest you do the same. What isn’t true? Stop veering off into your projections, stick to the facts. Mr. Mayweather provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion. https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf

They took a “partial” sample before the IV. I.e not enough to be tested. If you take a partial sample not enough to be tested and then the rest of the sample comes from after he has flushed his system, what do you get? Fuk all. That isn't true he was testing before the fight. Look dude I get it, the loss stings. Must suck watching your hero lose to a guy you despise. Happened to me when SRL beat Hagler. The difference is I got over it. I suggest you do the same.

Yes he would've. I think both of you are forgetting that Floyd was taking tests before and after he took the saline IV and he came up negative everytime. It's ok guys, I know it was hard after all those years of posting to watch Floyd beat Manny by such a wide margin. But come on, you guys are (allegedly) adult men. That fight was 4 years ago. You guys aren't over that loss yet? They took a “partial” sample before the IV. I.e not enough to be tested. If you take a partial sample not enough to be tested and then the rest of the sample comes from after he has flushed his system, what do you get? Fuk all.

Would Floyd have beat pac without IV is what I want to know This question is basically would have Floyd beaten Pacquiao if USADA weren’t yet again protecting him from a positive test? No, he would’ve popped and the fight called off. The best thing about it all was Mayweather’s excuse, “well some people like to drink pedilites” His excuse wasn’t “I was very dehydrated, the doctor diagnosed that I needed an IV to properly recover.” It was, well, some people drink Pedialytes.. I just prefer to stick a needle in my arm personally. :lol1: Yes he would've. I think both of you are forgetting that Floyd was taking tests before and after he took the saline IV and he came up negative everytime. It's ok guys, I know it was hard after all those years of posting to watch Floyd beat Manny by such a wide margin. But come on, you guys are (allegedly) adult men. That fight was 4 years ago. You guys aren't over that loss yet?

Is there an anniversary or some shlt that compelled these threads to be dug up ???? Why affected? Do you see Floyd a cheat or he's clean to your standards? And why?

Would Floyd have beat pac without IV is what I want to know This question is basically would have Floyd beaten Pacquiao if USADA weren’t yet again protecting him from a positive test? No, he would’ve popped and the fight called off. The best thing about it all was Mayweather’s excuse, “well some people like to drink pedilites” His excuse wasn’t “I was very dehydrated, the doctor diagnosed that I needed an IV to properly recover.” It was, well, some people drink Pedialytes.. I just prefer to stick a needle in my arm personally. :lol1:

Would Floyd have beat pac without IV is what I want to know

I say yes. His head grew from a 6-3/4 to an 8-1/4 in the span of three or four years. Sorry, that doesn't happen.

Hahahahahahahaha! Jhonny hopes to never see Floyd fight again. I'm with Jhonny! This is what Floyd had in store for us. Not that I was surprised since he does like to cherry pick .... Read the below: "The father/trainer of Floyd Mayweather Jr, the undefeated pound for pound king says his son is looking to get in some easy fights before he retires. But if that’s the case Floyd Sr believes is that’s the way Mayweather is going to approach whats left of his career, then he should retire right away instead of sticking around for easy fights. Mayweather Sr told Mlive.com “Floyd told me he wants to get a couple of easy fights. My honest opinion is, if he feels that way he should get out of the game.”

YAWWWWNNNN. I suggest you go look up the word "debunk" once again. Maybe then you would stop embarrassing yourself. You should also stop trying to be an expert in fields that you don't understand. Mayweather's T/E Ratio: The Mayweather T/E ratios provided were 0.8 and 0.69 respectively. Here is the head of a WADA accredited laboratory stating that levels of .4 and .48 are not abnormal. As a matter of fact, Comier's T/E ratio was low too, with a .4 T/E ratio on Dec. 2 and .48 T/E ratio on Dec. 17. Cormier's testosterone levels were 50 ng/mL and 70 ng/mL, lower than average, but higher than Jones's. Kevin Iole with Yahoo Sports spoke with Dr. Christiane Ayotte, the head of Montreal's Laboratoire de contrôle du dopage INRS, one of 32 WADA-accredited labs worldwide. “I read the interviews of 'specialists' on that topic , and, well, I am sorry, but such T/E values are not at all abnormal,”said Dr. Ayotte. http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/Jones-sample-was-in-fact-CIR-tested-nothing-suspicious-found If the head of a WADA laboratory thinks .4 and .48 are not abnormal, I wonder what she thinks of .8 and .69. Now go away. Only you want to keep bringing this up because you are embarrassed that you consistently get stomped, and you are embarrassed that Pacquiao lost. Go cry to someone else. :haha: In those cases, the T/E results came from NSAC not USADA since USADA does not disclose the full results to NSAC..... and its just like Floyd wants it! "All of this leads to another issue. As noted by NSAC executive director Bob Bennett, “As of now, USADA does not give us the full test results. They give us the contracts for drug testing and summaries that tell us whether a fighter has tested positive or negative. It is incumbent on them to notify us if a fighter tests positive. But no, they don’t give us the full test results.” Dr Ayotte cannot declare someone positive for PEDs unless she is very sure about it. But if asked on if she would conclude that the results stand for themselves, she would be laughing at you. Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69. “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin who founded the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory in 1982 and is one of the founders of modern drug testing in sports. Other experts say the same "But an abnormally low T-E ratio is a red flag" says Conte As for the IV "“It’s bizarre,” Don Catlin says with regard to the retroactive therapeutic use exemption that USADA granted to Mayweather "I don’t get it,” Conte says. “There are strict criteria for the granting of a TUE. You don’t hand them out like Halloween candy. And this sort of IV use is clearly against the rules. Even experts are baffled at Floyd getting the IV and the retro TUE. https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4037622/SBN_scan__1.0.jpeg https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4037620/SBN_scan__2.0.jpeg

It's very likely. That's the best answer one can give.

and miss you saying "Ultra De-Duper Slow-Mo Video-Rama"? https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4542993664/h98B0BA41/ Hahahahahahahaha! Jhonny hopes to never see Floyd fight again.

new Ultra Slow Motion Video says ... This fvcking fight is over.... Just drop it already. Plenty of other boxing to enjoy You guys are fools and doping masters now! Let it go. and miss you saying "Ultra De-Duper Slow-Mo Video-Rama"? https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4542993664/h98B0BA41/

A man calls for cleaning up the sport to get the attention off himself. Surely the man who called for stronger testing wouldn't be taking them, would he? :D :D :D

You must be the only person on this planet that cannot see the similarities between Floyd and Lance. - Both had their representatives pay off organizations that later came back to help them out with a favor. - Both used an IV just before giving their samples - Both delayed to give their sample - Both got a RETRO TUE after the fact. - BOTH were heavily protected by those they paid off. - BOTH have fans that are talking like you are doing. --------------------- Not a big scandal? It knocked off the NFL (start if season) as #1 news. ---------------------- T/E ratios were off and highly suspicious. Actually more than just highly suspicious. So you didn't find that suspicious? Really? ----------------------- USADA: Floyd waits until the last minute to call a fight. How many weeks could they have tested for the Berto fight? 4-5 weeks? Floyd was cycling off his PEDs and needed more time. :lol1: ------------------------ WADA - VADA: Manny didn't get sweet heart deals such that he can get a TUE after the fact. Floyd was allowed to. -------------------------------- Floyd's protected? Are you saying this with a straight face? What do you not understand about this? Its NEVADA Both Manny and Floyd did NOT tell the NSAC about their medical conditions. Well, Manny at least told them about the medications used. Floyd NOTHING. Manny was told off by both the NSAC and USADA. Floyd was not even given a slap on the wrist and in fact, they protected him. WHy investigate Manny and not Floyd? Both hid their medical conditions. Why did USADA protect Floyd and throw Manny under the bus? USADA said that Manny should have told NSAC if they had a medical condition before the fight. This is while knowing that Floyd said NOTHING!!!!! --------------------------------- Approval of RETRO TUE: Nice try but the main point is that USADA did not investigate to check Floyd's version. It was approved before they even got it .... --------------------------------- Floyd did NOT require an IV and you know it. All Floyd had to do is drink and the DCO would have had his sample soon after ..... but Floyd was delaying for a reason .... get the PEDs out of his system!!! . I thought we were all agreeing to drop this silly matter like the rest of the world. Give it a rest now. I'm tired of saying the same things over and over to you. Pacquiao lost, Mayweather is widely thought of as the greatest of this era, Pacquaio claims he had a shoulder injury, but also claims to have been fine going into the fight....so there is no issue there. Until those samples come back positive, you have no legs to stand on. Nothing else matters. It's done. I get it, it has been a rough period for you of late. I debunked your Manny speculation and you cannot defend Floyd's IV scandal no longer because you realized the truth. We have the T/E issue as well with Floyd and those other supposed positive results that had surfaced a few years ago and this IV scandal. http://images.clipartpanda.com/defeat-clipart-0060-0807-1220-5847_A_Beat_Up_Man_Waving_the_White_Flag_of_Surrender_clipart_image.jpg

The paper trail is stupid, plain and simple. Who wants to document wrongdoing. Come on, man. Get off of it. A whole lot of speculation in that mumbo jumbo. Let's see. Lance had to sneak an IV bag in. Floyd gave a partial sample before the IV and then followed the proper WADA protocol to be approved for the IV. I'm failing to see the similarity. This is now only a scandal to pacroaches. I wonder why. according to whom? I can find information that shows these results were not abnormal, and you know I can. So why are you still typing this? Arum/Pac with VADA? Any athlete since it's allowed according to the WADA standards Do you have proof this was against WADA's ISTUE? More speculation? Wait...didn't Arum pay for VADA testing? Huh? What the hell are you talking about? I suggest you go look up the ISTUE before you keep spouting about things you don't understand. There is a process that needs to be followed. It was followed. So what you're saying is that Manny's team reviewed the ISTUE and got the fight contract tweeked to account for fixing things they didn't like? WELL GREAT. What the hell are you complaining about then?????????????????????????? You must be the only person on this planet that cannot see the similarities between Floyd and Lance. - Both had their representatives pay off organizations that later came back to help them out with a favor. - Both used an IV just before giving their samples - Both delayed to give their sample - Both got a RETRO TUE after the fact. - BOTH were heavily protected by those they paid off. - BOTH have fans that are talking like you are doing. --------------------- Not a big scandal? It knocked off the NFL (start if season) as #1 news. ---------------------- T/E ratios were off and highly suspicious. Actually more than just highly suspicious. So you didn't find that suspicious? Really? ----------------------- USADA: Floyd waits until the last minute to call a fight. How many weeks could they have tested for the Berto fight? 4-5 weeks? Floyd was cycling off his PEDs and needed more time. :lol1: ------------------------ WADA - VADA: Manny didn't get sweet heart deals such that he can get a TUE after the fact. Floyd was allowed to. -------------------------------- Floyd's protected? Are you saying this with a straight face? What do you not understand about this? Its NEVADA Both Manny and Floyd did NOT tell the NSAC about their medical conditions. Well, Manny at least told them about the medications used. Floyd NOTHING. Manny was told off by both the NSAC and USADA. Floyd was not even given a slap on the wrist and in fact, they protected him. WHy investigate Manny and not Floyd? Both hid their medical conditions. Why did USADA protect Floyd and throw Manny under the bus? USADA said that Manny should have told NSAC if they had a medical condition before the fight. This is while knowing that Floyd said NOTHING!!!!! --------------------------------- Approval of RETRO TUE: Nice try but the main point is that USADA did not investigate to check Floyd's version. It was approved before they even got it .... --------------------------------- Floyd did NOT require an IV and you know it. All Floyd had to do is drink and the DCO would have had his sample soon after ..... but Floyd was delaying for a reason .... get the PEDs out of his system!!! .