Danny Garcia and his dad confirm they received an offer to fight Manny Pacquiao

If only this father and son team would just focus on who is available in their own backyard we wouldn't have to make these stupid speculations. There's Thurman, Broner, they let Brook slip away when it was available.

Exactly, they have a chance to become the next ppv star if they defeat causal. It's not about the money, it's about making more money after defeating Pacquiao is a once in a lifetime opportunity that this new breads don't seem to understand. It only shows they dont have the confidence in beating him. Which brings me back to my main point, its why people wanna face Floyd over Manny. He outboxes you but you accept the loss, Manny beats Danny is exciting fashion and he embarrasses Broner. They know they wont win and rather face the Rod Salka's of the world

Pac is a once and a lifetime kind of talent, and a PPV star, and yet they won't even get the chance to exchange roles to get the opportunity to now be PPV fighters? Wow. Exactly, they have a chance to become the next ppv star if they defeat causal. It's not about the money, it's about making more money after defeating Pacquiao is a once in a lifetime opportunity that this new breads don't seem to understand. It only shows they dont have the confidence in beating him.

Why don't the just offer a percentage then? Something like 70-30 Because that means Arum would have to open his books to Haymon's fighter, and other folks might want to see on their fights, too.

I hear you but you're overlooking the reasons for optimism. For starters, there has been talk of Arum putting fights on Showtime since the beginning of the year, maybe longer. Given the situation at HBO, it's really not that unlikely. I'm not as convinced regarding PBC but if the right fight can be made it's possible. It certainly wasn't while the lawsuit was going on and it's only been a couple months so I'm exercising patience. Arum will always be Arum; if you want to expect a man to change his m.o. after being himself for as long as he's been, you leave yourself in the lurch. wouldn't hold your breath.

Showtime lost money http://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/floyd-mayweather-andre-berto-pay-per-view-buys/274128 The fight cost $75 to buy in HD and $65 for standard definition. Even if the fight did 550,000 buys all in high definition, that would amount to just over $41 million in revenue. Mayweather was paid the minimum called for by his contract — $32 million — while Berto was paid $4 million. That only leaves a difference of $5 million or so. Between advertising and other promotional fees, it’s not inconceivable to think that Showtime lost money on the fight, which was Mayweather’s last of six contracted bouts with the network. Also consider that Mayweather didn’t even sell out tickets at the MGM for the fight. Fans were so disinterested that high rollers turned down free tickets, while closed circuit viewing parties were cancelled. It’s a good thing Mayweather says he is retiring, because it looks like fans have tired of his act. Froid let showtime hung out to dry. Mr illusion fraud still gets going. Showtime got 6 Floyd events out of their partnership, to the tune of over 6.5m PPV buys and over $500m in gross revenue (not even counting the ~$65m in HD fees that Showtime immediately pocketed). The fact that you think Showtime lost money on the deal is laughable.

I cant believe we're in an era where we argue about how much a fighter makes/should get instead of demanding close fights. Thank you al haymon :usa: Been going on long before Haymon

canelo only made $5mil fighting TBE, the fuck is ya talking bout $3-4mil is too low? lmao! Canelo made $5 million for his purse and appr. $4.5 million on the PPV upside as there was reportedly a nice little bonus for both fighters if it did over 2 million PPV buys, which it ended up doing. Danny Garcia should take this fight. Eventually he will have to fight a Thurman, Porter, Brook, or Spence that will take that 0. Might as well have a legend be the one to do it. And who knows, with all of Pacquiao's political commitments taking up his time and his advanced age, maybe Swift catches his at the right time and pulls off the upset.

Pac is a once and a lifetime kind of talent, and a PPV star, and yet they won't even get the chance to exchange roles to get the opportunity to now be PPV fighters? Wow.

Why don't the just offer a percentage then? Something like 70-30

lol wut? you can only leverage and undefeated record if you're someone like floyd. You cant leverage your "0" against a boxer of pacquiao's stature if you're danny freaking garcia, a guy who shouldnt even have an "0" in the first place. :lol1::lol1::lol1: :dunce: This was a short sighted decision by both Garcia and Broner. The didnt think big picture. Sharing the ring with pacquiao would have greatly improved their FUTURE economic earning power just by sharing the ring with a living legend like pacquiao. its typical of the hood mentality. take the easy money, easy way out, instead of investing properly and planning of the future. You of all people, a guy who sells insurance, should know that. I guess you ignore the posts where i said they should have taken the fight right? and why do all your post have to mention race or hood?

Talk is talk; Arum hasn't had a single fighter on PBC, Arum hasn't had a single fight on Showtime, and Arum (outside of this talk of a PPV fight that Pacquiao has gone public with denying that he's even planning for) has yet to have a single Haymon/PBC-linked fighter on his HBO/Unimas shows. To harp about a "new tone" is a bit much, and the fact that Arum only offered Broner and Garcia, two fighters with actual interest in the boxing world, the same $3m that he offered Brandon Rios to fight Pacquiao off of a loss puts the breaks on that view. I hear you but you're overlooking the reasons for optimism. For starters, there has been talk of Arum putting fights on Showtime since the beginning of the year, maybe longer. Given the situation at HBO, it's really not that unlikely. I'm not as convinced regarding PBC but if the right fight can be made it's possible. It certainly wasn't while the lawsuit was going on and it's only been a couple months so I'm exercising patience.

I just had to check this thread (And the Broner thread) to see if i had imagined what i'd seen yesterday. But no, there is actually posts in both threads saying that both fighters should be paid up to the £9-10m mark for a Pacquiao fight. Just when i ask myself can NSB get any more crazier? The answer is yes..always yes.

Lol, Kell Brook moving up two weight divisions to fight the best middleweight, while Broner and Garcia turn down small faded Pac...there is no logic in boxing. I can only assume Haymon advised them against the fight, or perhaps its only some fighters whom strive for greatness, and some fighter are just content. And 3-4 mill is not low you bunch of weirdos, he'd be hard pressed to make much more fighting Floyd. Bout sums it up for me. Well said!

Shocker: spoilt, pampered, entitled boxers who've been brought up on a diet of showcase fights for overinflated purses are only willing to take serious risks for an unrealistic amount of money. But Haymon pay his fighters doe.

These so called new lions are a bunch of *******.

Now that is if it was 550 ppv http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/13681951/floyd-mayweather-andre-berto-fight-disappoints-pay-per-view-sales Sad way to go out. All smoke and mirrors. The fraud way tsk tsk tsk.. But in reality it's closer to 400 lol so showtime got hit with a lethal hole in their pockets. Total loss. Sources: Mayweather-Berto draws between 400K and 550K PPV buys If Floyd Mayweather's expected rout of Andre Berto on Sept. 12 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas truly was his final fight, then Mayweather will have gone out with a whimper, not with a bang. Mayweather, boxing's clear-cut pound-for-pound king and the highest-paid athlete in the world, retained his welterweight world titles against Berto and announced his retirement afterward, as expected. But although he closed his career with a perfect record (49-0, 26 KOs), sports fans largely yawned at his supposed finale. According to multiple industry sources, the Mayweather-Berto Showtime PPV card was a box-office bomb, selling 550,000 subscriptions, at best. It could have done as few as 400,000, one of the sources said. "Being generous, it might hit 550,000 buys," one source said. Floyd did another daylight robbery. This time to Showtime. He got paid so much money he didn't deserve. Amazing conman athlete ever. The best!

Lol some say you shouldn't everything a crook says. Everything is fabricated in Floyd towns. Well, anyway, believe what you want, but always remember value for money always goes to the Asian guy. Cheers! pac's last fight. http://s21.postimg.org/7z3bzgkkn/FB_IMG_1460265641695.jpg Floyd's last fight http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx43/Kelloid/floyd-mayweather-vs-andre-berto-.jpg The difference is clear. The FACTS are stated on the Nevada State Athletic Commission website. It lists the top live gates for boxing and MMA IN Nevada. Floyd Mayweather has the three top lives gates for boxing and 11 of the top 25. Compare that to Manny's numbers. You don't have believe the facts, but simply because you choose not to believe them doesn't mean they are not FACTS.

Showtime lost money http://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/floyd-mayweather-andre-berto-pay-per-view-buys/274128 The fight cost $75 to buy in HD and $65 for standard definition. Even if the fight did 550,000 buys all in high definition, that would amount to just over $41 million in revenue. Mayweather was paid the minimum called for by his contract — $32 million — while Berto was paid $4 million. That only leaves a difference of $5 million or so. Between advertising and other promotional fees, it’s not inconceivable to think that Showtime lost money on the fight, which was Mayweather’s last of six contracted bouts with the network. Also consider that Mayweather didn’t even sell out tickets at the MGM for the fight. Fans were so disinterested that high rollers turned down free tickets, while closed circuit viewing parties were cancelled. It’s a good thing Mayweather says he is retiring, because it looks like fans have tired of his act. Froid let showtime hung out to dry. Mr illusion fraud still gets going.

Manny Pacquaio fights do not generate the same kind of money that Mayweather fights generate, in spite of what Bob Arum would have you believe. No one is going to make more than $3 to $4 million fighting Pacquaio. WTF are you talking about, clown? The Berto fight had a live gate of over $10 million. That is about $5 million more than Pacquaio/Bradley III. It also sold more PPV's than Pacquaio/Bradley III. Therefore, the Mayweather/Berto fight generated more money than Pacquaio/Bradley III. In addition, Mayweather/Alvarez made more money than any Pacquiaio fight that didn't involve Mayweather. Mayweather/De La Hoya made more money than Pacquaio/De La Hoya. Mayweather/Mosley made more money than Pacquaio/Mosley. Mayweather/Hatton generated more money that Pacquaio/Hatton. Therefore, Mayweather fight generated more money than Pacquaio fights. Even a genius like you should be able to see that.....if you will take the time to pull your head from your a...! Lol some say you shouldn't everything a crook says. Everything is fabricated in Floyd town. Well, anyway, believe what you want, but always remember value for money always goes to the Asian guy. Cheers! pac's last fight. http://s21.postimg.org/7z3bzgkkn/FB_IMG_1460265641695.jpg Floyd's last fight http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx43/Kelloid/floyd-mayweather-vs-andre-berto-.jpg The difference is clear.