Hang on.. Brook gets 80-20 split vs GGG?

They basically put a price on Brooks life

No, Canelo was willing to fight, but lil'G b1tched out..... AGAIN !! Stop blaming Canelo because Golovkin writes checks with his mouth that he can't cash with his fists. First it was, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 168 " http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/boxing/post/_/id/1193/middleweight-golovkin-says-hell-fight-anyone-at-154160-168 Then Andre Ward announced his comeback. So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 164 " http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258 Then Ward said that he would consider a catchweight. So it became, " Nobody at 154/160 can go 12 rounds with Golovkin " http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Abel_Sanchez_No_one_at_154_160_still_can_go_12_rounds_w_Golovkin_Cotto_is_never_going_to_fight_us/10102303 Then Cotto/Canelo both insisted upon a catchweight. So then it was, " Gennady Golovkin eyes unification at middleweight " http://www.ibtimes.com.au/boxing-news-gennady-golovkin-eyes-unification-all-middleweight-titles-1476074 Then Ward moved to LHW. So apparently NOW it is, " Golovkin Will Go Anywhere To Face Carl Froch! " http://www.boxingscene.com/sanchez-golovkin-go-anywhere-face-carl-froch--97726 WTF ?????????? When the Golovkin hype-train left the station, most fans were under the impression that GGG actually wanted to fight guys like Ward/Cotto/Canelo. So what you're telling me is it was GGG's fault 1 years go but it's not his fault now, which is my point and what the topic is about. Thank you for agreeing with my point.

HOW THE FK WOULD YOU KNOW CLOWN ? :lol1: 1) they should have negotiated on the weight with Canelo, like they promised 2) they shouldn't have lied about the offer to Saunders, they should have paid him what they are willing to pay Brook 3) they shouldn't have offered Jacobs " Quillin money " :bottle::bottle: I know because you haven't made a list like I asked you, clown. ) You bring up GGG-Canelo negotiations 2 years ago as if that's relevant to their negotiations Sept 2016. Was it relevant when they could have fought in 2015? Sure. Not relevant WHATSOEVER in Sept 2016, which is the topic of discussion. I talked about Sept 2016. If you wanna quote me, stick to the ****ing topic.. Canelo said in May 2016 that he didn't WANT to negotiate the weight . Oscar said himself the reason the fight will take place next year IS NOT because of an issue with the catchweight. 2) BJS said himself he was getting a career payday but said he wanted more. It's unreasonable to expect GGG's team to take a few million dollar loss just to get him in the ring with BJS. 3) You bring up GGG's team offering Jacobs "Quillen money" despite the fat Jacbos team already agreed to a fight with Mora MONTHS BEFORE GGG looked for a Sept 2016 opponent that wasn't Canelo.

According to Hearn, Eubank was offered 80-20 split (presumably UK revenue not america) and Brook got the EXACT same deal. If this is true, then Brook is set for a HUGE payday. Check it out - Start at 13:40 That's not what he meant. He was talking about the split between the promoter (him/sky) and his fighter Eubank. -- So out of what Eubank gets Hearn/sky gets 20% he is not talking about the split between GGG and Eubank. we don't know what that split is

GGG is probably given a fixed purse and then Brook splits whatever revenue is left with Matchroom at a 80-20 split. So his purse depends mostly on the PPV buys.

Where's the "excuse"? I mean you can't even give me a list of fighters available that was ready for GGG in Sept 2016. Canelo said no so you can't include him. Jacobs agreed to a Mora fight well before GGG picked Brook, BJS already said no, Cotto wanted to move back down to fight JMM. Even top SMW are unavailable (DeGale vs Jack already agreed to a fight, Ramirez is injured, Dirrell brothers sucked their last time out). Top JMW are unavailable too (Charlo brothers have a fight, Andrade is fighting one of the Carlo brothers). The only guy right now that was available for a Sept 2016 fight that would add credibility to GGG is Lara and I do wish he fighted Lara over Brook but he chose the money fight (like he said he would). Other than that, there's actually no one available. No, Canelo was willing to fight, but lil'G b1tched out..... AGAIN !! Stop blaming Canelo because Golovkin writes checks with his mouth that he can't cash with his fists. First it was, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 168 " http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/boxing/post/_/id/1193/middleweight-golovkin-says-hell-fight-anyone-at-154160-168 Then Andre Ward announced his comeback. So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 164 " http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258 Then Ward said that he would consider a catchweight. So it became, " Nobody at 154/160 can go 12 rounds with Golovkin " http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Abel_Sanchez_No_one_at_154_160_still_can_go_12_rounds_w_Golovkin_Cotto_is_never_going_to_fight_us/10102303 Then Cotto/Canelo both insisted upon a catchweight. So then it was, " Gennady Golovkin eyes unification at middleweight " http://www.ibtimes.com.au/boxing-news-gennady-golovkin-eyes-unification-all-middleweight-titles-1476074 Then Ward moved to LHW. So apparently NOW it is, " Golovkin Will Go Anywhere To Face Carl Froch! " http://www.boxingscene.com/sanchez-golovkin-go-anywhere-face-carl-froch--97726 WTF ?????????? When the Golovkin hype-train left the station, most fans were under the impression that GGG actually wanted to fight guys like Ward/Cotto/Canelo.

Actually, you haven't answered the question. You haven't named anyone that was willing to fight GGG in Sept 2016. Not once. You're just repeating yourself with questions already answered. a) I'm not happy they are fighting a welterweight and I already said that b) Irrelevant in present terms. People change stances all the time. Canelo, Manny, Floyd, Oscar, Ali, etc all changed stances on something once in their career. c) Good thing I never said there weren't better fights than Brook nor did I say I WANTED a fight between GGG-Brook. I said those better fights didn't happen because most/all of the 160 fighters aren't available and GGG's team said they've only move away from that stance if they got a money fight and that's what they did. 1) You bring up GGG-Canelo negotiations 2 years ago as if that's relevant to their negotiations Sept 2016. Was it relevant when they could have fought in 2015? Sure. Not relevant WHATSOEVER in Sept 2016, which is the topic of discussion. I talked about Sept 2016. If you wanna quote me, stick to the ****ing topic.. Canelo said in May 2016 that he didn't WANT to negotiate the weight . Oscar said himself the reason the fight will take place next year IS NOT because of an issue with the catchweight. 2) BJS said himself he was getting a career payday but said he wanted more. It's unreasonable to expect GGG's team to take a few million dollar loss just to get him in the ring with BJS. 3) You bring up GGG's team offering Jacobs "Quillen money" despite the fat Jacbos team already agreed to a fight with Mora MONTHS BEFORE GGG looked for a Sept 2016 opponent that wasn't Canelo. Let's be real, you're not going to read **** and you're going to copy and paste the same thing because education in your country isn't the strongest. HOW THE FK WOULD YOU KNOW CLOWN ? :lol1: 1) they should have negotiated on the weight with Canelo, like they promised 2) they shouldn't have lied about the offer to Saunders, they should have paid him what they are willing to pay Brook 3) they shouldn't have offered Jacobs " Quillin money " :bottle::bottle:

I have answered that question a number of times. Do you really think that you are doing a better job of making silly excuses to defend your loud-mouth girlfriend that those other idiots? Where's the "excuse"? I mean you can't even give me a list of fighters available that was ready for GGG in Sept 2016. Canelo said no so you can't include him. Jacobs agreed to a Mora fight well before GGG picked Brook, BJS already said no, Cotto wanted to move back down to fight JMM. Even top SMW are unavailable (DeGale vs Jack already agreed to a fight, Ramirez is injured, Dirrell brothers sucked their last time out). Top JMW are unavailable too (Charlo brothers have a fight, Andrade is fighting one of the Carlo brothers). The only guy right now that was available for a Sept 2016 fight that would add credibility to GGG is Lara and I do wish he fighted Lara over Brook but he chose the money fight (like he said he would). Other than that, there's actually no one available.

I have answered that question a number of times. Why are you insisting that Golovkin's next fight MUST be held at 160 when..... a) they are fighting a welter, you genius b) they ran with that "anyone from 154-168" line FOR FOUR YEARS c) there are much better fights available than Brook, but YOU keep making/endorsing weak excuses to justify why your guy will not step up.... They do not need to fight at 160 in order to land a better opponent than Brook, so stop being ridiculous. 1) they should have negotiated on the weight with Canelo, like they promised 2) they shouldn't have lied about the offer to Saunders, they should have paid him what they are willing to pay Brook 3) they shouldn't have offered Jacobs " Quillin money " :bottle::bottle: Do you really think that you are doing a better job of making silly excuses to defend your loud-mouth girlfriend that those other idiots? Actually, you haven't answered the question. You haven't named anyone that was willing to fight GGG in Sept 2016. Not once. You're just repeating yourself with questions already answered. a) I'm not happy they are fighting a welterweight and I already said that b) Irrelevant in present terms. People change stances all the time. Canelo, Manny, Floyd, Oscar, Ali, etc all changed stances on something once in their career. c) Good thing I never said there weren't better fights than Brook nor did I say I WANTED a fight between GGG-Brook. I said those better fights didn't happen because most/all of the 160 fighters aren't available and GGG's team said they've only move away from that stance if they got a money fight and that's what they did. 1) You bring up GGG-Canelo negotiations 2 years ago as if that's relevant to their negotiations Sept 2016. Was it relevant when they could have fought in 2015? Sure. Not relevant WHATSOEVER in Sept 2016, which is the topic of discussion. I talked about Sept 2016. If you wanna quote me, stick to the ****ing topic.. Canelo said in May 2016 that he didn't WANT to negotiate the weight . Oscar said himself the reason the fight will take place next year IS NOT because of an issue with the catchweight. 2) BJS said himself he was getting a career payday but said he wanted more. It's unreasonable to expect GGG's team to take a few million dollar loss just to get him in the ring with BJS. 3) You bring up GGG's team offering Jacobs "Quillen money" despite the fat Jacbos team already agreed to a fight with Mora MONTHS BEFORE GGG looked for a Sept 2016 opponent that wasn't Canelo. Let's be real, you're not going to read **** and you're going to copy and paste the same thing because education in your country isn't the strongest.

right..... " Did it hold up the fight back then? Sure. " ..... so, Golovkin did kill the fight by refusing to give Canelo a catchweight ..... and, the Brook fight is sh1t. because that is all I was saying And that had nothing to do with what I said to begin with. So again, next time you quote me you better be damn sure you know what you are talking about.

a) He said he wanted a unification fight at 160... I'm not insisting he should fight at 160. His team said that they wanted a 160 fight regardless of what I say... b) They've been saying for a few years now they wanted 160 unification more than anything and would only move up/down for a money fight, which they've done and is RELEVANT to the situation this coming Sept. c) Good thing I never endorsed Brook as a real opponent for GGG. My first post in this forum about this fight was that it was a mismatch money grab. 1) Irrelevant to the situation right now. Canelo has no issue with the weight right now, which, if you weren't retarded, would understand is the topic of conversation. 2) Lol so you want me to blame GGG's team for not making a bad business decision? **** Floyd may as well fight me with him getting 1% and I get 99% of the PPV buys or he be labelled a coward. 3) Jacobs has a fight scheduled in August/Sept. It has no bearing to GGG's fight on Sept, which is the topic of conversation. Not to mention you still haven't provided the proof where Jacobs was offered a bad offer. BJS said himself it was a career payday but he wanted more than he deserved. Yet you want me to balme GGG for that of all people? You've still yet to answer the question I posed. Which 160 opponent is acceptable that would have been available in early Sept? I have answered that question a number of times. Why are you insisting that Golovkin's next fight MUST be held at 160 when..... a) they are fighting a welter, you genius b) they ran with that "anyone from 154-168" line FOR FOUR YEARS c) there are much better fights available than Brook, but YOU keep making/endorsing weak excuses to justify why your guy will not step up.... They do not need to fight at 160 in order to land a better opponent than Brook, so stop being ridiculous. 1) they should have negotiated on the weight with Canelo, like they promised 2) they shouldn't have lied about the offer to Saunders, they should have paid him what they are willing to pay Brook 3) they shouldn't have offered Jacobs " Quillin money " :bottle::bottle: Do you really think that you are doing a better job of making silly excuses to defend your loud-mouth girlfriend that those other idiots?

Did I say it wasn't? That was literally my first post regarding the fight. I outright said that this is a mismatch that's nothing more than a cash grab since there wasn't a viable opponent at 160. Next time you quote me, you better be damn sure you know what you are talking about. right..... " Did it hold up the fight back then? Sure. " ..... so, Golovkin did kill the fight by refusing to give Canelo a catchweight ..... and, the Brook fight is sh1t. because that is all I was saying

Why insist that Golovkin's next fight MUST be held at 160 when..... a) they are fighting a welter, you genius b) they ran with that "anyone from 154-168" line FOR FOUR YEARS c) there are much better fights available than Brook, but YOU keep making/endorsing weak excuses to justify why your guy will not step up.... 1) they should have negotiated on the weight with Canelo, like they promised 2) they shouldn't have lied about the offer to Saunders, they should have paid him what they are willing to pay Brook 3) they shouldn't have offered Jacobs " Quillin money " :bottle::bottle: a) He said he wanted a unification fight at 160... I'm not insisting he should fight at 160. His team said that they wanted a 160 fight regardless of what I say... b) They've been saying for a few years now they wanted 160 unification more than anything and would only move up/down for a money fight, which they've done and is RELEVANT to the situation this coming Sept. c) Good thing I never endorsed Brook as a real opponent for GGG. My first post in this forum about this fight was that it was a mismatch money grab. 1) Irrelevant to the situation right now. Canelo has no issue with the weight right now, which, if you weren't retarded, would understand is the topic of conversation. 2) Lol so you want me to blame GGG's team for not making a bad business decision? **** Floyd may as well fight me with him getting 1% and I get 99% of the PPV buys or he be labelled a coward. 3) Jacobs has a fight scheduled in August/Sept. It has no bearing to GGG's fight on Sept, which is the topic of conversation. Not to mention you still haven't provided the proof where Jacobs was offered a bad offer. BJS said himself it was a career payday but he wanted more than he deserved. Yet you want me to balme GGG for that of all people? You've still yet to answer the question I posed. Which 160 opponent is acceptable that would have been available in early Sept?

Who cares..... it's a sh1t fight, you tosser Did I say it wasn't? That was literally my first post regarding the fight. I outright said that this is a mismatch that's nothing more than a cash grab since there wasn't a viable opponent at 160. Next time you quote me, you better be damn sure you know what you are talking about.

1. Kell Brook is a bigger draw and BJS. FACT. So if Brook generates more revenue than BJS but both were paid the same (same expenses), the profit would be different if Brook or Suanders were the opponent. Simple accounting. 2. Already said I could care less how much they get paid. Fighters could fight for $0.01 for all I care. But I'm not going to dismiss a significant reason fighters fight, which is money. 3. Never made any childish excuses. I said that BJS asked for money that was not in the interest of his promoter or K2. That's a fact. I'm not happy about it but that's how it is. Who cares..... it's a sh1t fight, you tosser

:lol1: Well you're a bit of an idiot aren't you. The question was basic and simple to answer. Who can GGG fight RIGHT NOW at the 160 division that would be deemed acceptable. . That's the question I posed and the statement you tried (unsuccessfully) to rebuttal. I never asked what GGG's faults have been the past few years NOR did I ask what did he do wrong in Canelo negotiations 1-2 years ago. If you want to debate GGG's negotiations with Canelo, go create a thread and discuss there for all I care. Otherwise, if you're going to quote me, you better be damn sure you answer the question I posed (which I've bolded for you since you have trouble understanding). Why insist that Golovkin's next fight MUST be held at 160 when..... a) they are fighting a welter, you genius b) they ran with that "anyone from 154-168" line FOR FOUR YEARS c) there are much better fights available than Brook, but YOU keep making/endorsing weak excuses to justify why your guy will not step up.... 1) they should have negotiated on the weight with Canelo, like they promised 2) they shouldn't have lied about the offer to Saunders, they should have paid him what they are willing to pay Brook 3) they shouldn't have offered Jacobs " Quillin money " :bottle::bottle:

raonic, this..... "Saunders getting paid Kell Brook money is probably a bad business decision" ..... is fkn pathetic. Grow up man LMAO 1) how the fk would you know? 2) why the fk would you possibly care? 3) do you intend to make those childish excuses for the entire duration of Golovkin weak career, or just the foreseeable future? 1. Kell Brook is a bigger draw and BJS. FACT. So if Brook generates more revenue than BJS but both were paid the same (same expenses), the profit would be different if Brook or Suanders were the opponent. Simple accounting. 2. Already said I could care less how much they get paid. Fighters could fight for $0.01 for all I care. But I'm not going to dismiss a significant reason fighters fight, which is money. 3. Never made any childish excuses. I said that BJS asked for money that was not in the interest of his promoter or K2. That's a fact. I'm not happy about it but that's how it is.

no no, completely failing to hold a grown man accountable for his words/actions..... is pretty dumb..... seriously, how fkn old are you? :lol1: Stop the bullsh1t kid LMAO " Did it hold up the fight back then? Sure. " right, so..... /thread :lol1: Well you're a bit of an idiot aren't you. The question was basic and simple to answer. Who can GGG fight RIGHT NOW at the 160 division that would be deemed acceptable. . That's the question I posed and the statement you tried (unsuccessfully) to rebuttal. I never asked what GGG's faults have been the past few years NOR did I ask what did he do wrong in Canelo negotiations 1-2 years ago. If you want to debate GGG's negotiations with Canelo, go create a thread and discuss there for all I care. Otherwise, if you're going to quote me, you better be damn sure you answer the question I posed (which I've bolded for you since you have trouble understanding).

raonic, this..... "Saunders getting paid Kell Brook money is probably a bad business decision" ..... is fkn pathetic. Grow up man LMAO 1) how the fk would you know? 2) why the fk would you possibly care? 3) do you intend to make those childish excuses for the entire duration of Golovkin weak career, or just the foreseeable future?

1. Well that's kinda dumb. I'm pretty sure they said that probably over a year ago. If you want to hold GGG for something they said a few years ago, then I don't know what to tell you. The issue right now isn't the weight. The weight isn't what's holding up the Canelo fight from happening right now. Did it hold up the fight back then? Sure. But I clearly said there was no other legitimate opponent this September, meaning we are talking about RIGHT NOW. 2. Saunders was still getting paid a career payday. Brook is a bigger name in the UK. Saunders probably isn't worth the same money and by all accounts. I could care less what Saunders gets paid to be honest and both could fight for $1 or $100 mil for all I care but business is an important part of boxing whether we like it or not and the fight obviously isn't going to happen if it's bad business for both sides. And yes, Saunders getting paid Kell Brook money is probably a bad business decision. 3. Haven't heard how much money GGG's team offered Jacobs but there haven't really been significant discussions on both sides I think. GGG's team hoped they would fight Canelo this September so they probably didn't have any real discussion. They went from agreeing to have tune up bouts in April/May then fighting in Sept so not sure where in that timeframe GGG's team would have negotiated with Jacobs' team.. no no, completely failing to hold a grown man accountable for his words/actions..... is pretty dumb..... seriously, how fkn old are you? :lol1: Stop the bullsh1t kid LMAO " Did it hold up the fight back then? Sure. " right, so..... /thread