Cashing out ?

Maybe what makes a fight a cash out rather than taking on a big challenge is a fighters proximity to the 'End of the Line'. Martinez in terms of his career and ability to perform. I'm sure many would argue that his foot had already slipped over it. Martin because he'd (over)reached the highest point he'd ever get to. He was heading back down either way so he may as well fight for a hefty prize before the slides. Maybe Khan's a little different. He can see his on the horizon and you could make a case that his 'End of the Line' has found a personal embodiment in Kell Brook. He's doing everything he can to avoid stepping on the path that leads there. Mayweather Vs Pacquiao was a cash out for me. Both were coming to the end of the line. It was never going to be competitive by that point.

An example of "cashing out" is Sergio Martinez fighting Cotto while barely being able to walk normally. This should be the definition of "Cashing out"

Charles Martin getting a fluke win for a belt off an injury and then immediately signing to fight Joshua was a HUGE cashout. He had no chance, was willing to come to AJs home AND was in good spirits afterwards buying a bunch of nice stuff with the cashout payout he got. He destroyed his own career for some instant cash. No champ has ever gotten a belt and just gladly played the B-side like that imo. That's actually a really good example.

Charles Martin getting a fluke win for a belt off an injury and then immediately signing to fight Joshua was a HUGE cashout. He had no chance, was willing to come to AJs home AND was in good spirits afterwards buying a bunch of nice stuff with the cashout payout he got. He destroyed his own career for some instant cash. No champ has ever gotten a belt and just gladly played the B-side like that imo. I would have done the exact same if I was CM.

Charles Martin getting a fluke win for a belt off an injury and then immediately signing to fight Joshua was a HUGE cashout. He had no chance, was willing to come to AJs home AND was in good spirits afterwards buying a bunch of nice stuff with the cashout payout he got. He destroyed his own career for some instant cash. No champ has ever gotten a belt and just gladly played the B-side like that imo.

definition of Amir Khan vs Canelo. Thing is Khan's so delusional he probably thought he was still in with a chance. :lol1: The definition of cashouts for me over the years has been the endless stream of no hopers that got in the ring with Wlad and retired shortly after. Guys who showed absolutely no passion or will to win and were never heard from again.

Sure - If it's someone like Eubank Jr fighting someone in his own weightclass that is considered the champ. That's respectable. Someone like Amir Khan doesn't want any dangerous fight in his own weightclass and is directly ducking his biggest rival coming up with excuse after excuse, only to go up against a fighter who was guaranteed to knock him out - Simply for the payday. We shouldn't praise anyone who seriously puts their health and career on the line by fighting someone much bigger, just for cash. Especially for a fight literally no one was asking for. This is absolutely spot on and I couldn't have said it better myself.

Yes we should praise them. We should especially praise the champions who fight the best challengers possible if the fights can be made. Sometimes do to the strange way boxing has changed networks and promoters make it difficult for some fights to be made. Champions have an obligation to fight the best fighters their weight if possible. Few of them live up to this obligation and many champions defend their titles against guys not even rated in the top 30 in the world.

Khan cashed out fighting Canelo

Miguel Cotto vs Sergio Martinez Amir Khan vs Canelo Alvarez

Cashing out is taking a big money fight knowing you have no intention or chance of winning. It generally results in the death of that fighter's career, or at least significant stallage. It's not simply stepping up and challenging a better fighter than yourself. It's a cynical practice and should rightfully be criticised. definition of Amir Khan vs Canelo.

What is this crap ? People complain we never get any good fights but when a big name fighter steps and takes a fighter where he's an underdog he's "cashing out". Shouldn't we be praising guys who take risks rather than taking safe fight after safe fight ? Sure - If it's someone like Eubank Jr fighting someone in his own weightclass that is considered the champ. That's respectable. Someone like Amir Khan doesn't want any dangerous fight in his own weightclass and is directly ducking his biggest rival coming up with excuse after excuse, only to go up against a fighter who was guaranteed to knock him out - Simply for the payday. We shouldn't praise anyone who seriously puts their health and career on the line by fighting someone much bigger, just for cash. Especially for a fight literally no one was asking for.

Cashing out is taking a big money fight knowing you have no intention or chance of winning. It generally results in the death of that fighter's career, or at least significant stallage. It's not simply stepping up and challenging a better fighter than yourself. It's a cynical practice and should rightfully be criticised.

An example of "cashing out" is Sergio Martinez fighting Cotto while barely being able to walk normally.