So poor? Bloated Paul Smith, Sullivan Barrera & Alexander Brand! Murderers row right there.. The direction of travel (Smith to Brand) isn't exactly setting boxing alight is it? I can't think of a p4p elite fighter considered Americas best having such a poor set of recent wins, can you? People would sort of get ONE soft opponent but THREE in a row? (Granted Barrera is an unknown & maybe a B level fighter but the jury is still out on him! From what I have seen he's pretty one dimensional & average..) Why is Ward disrespecting his fans so much by fighting what are essentially extras on a Wyans brothers movie! Has anyone in recent memory (considered the best in America) fought such poor opposition as this?
So poor? Bloated Paul Smith, Sullivan Barrera & Alexander Brand! Murderers row right there.. The direction of travel (Smith to Brand) isn't exactly setting boxing alight is it? I can't think of a p4p elite fighter considered Americas best having such a poor set of recent wins, can you? People would sort of get ONE soft opponent but THREE in a row? (Granted Barrera is an unknown & maybe a B level fighter but the jury is still out on him! From what I have seen he's pretty one dimensional & average..) Why is Ward disrespecting his fans so much by fighting what are essentially extras on a Wyans brothers movie! Has anyone in recent memory (considered the best in America) fought such poor opposition as this?
Andre Ward has decided to do what every other professional boxer is doing, which is to fight the weakest opponent he can get away with fighting. He spent three years fighting the best opponents in the world at 168 pounds and he is now ranked at about the same level as a guy (Golovkin) who has never fought anyone with a grade higher than a B minus. Fighting the best opponents has earned Andre Ward no more money and has not increased his popularity. So, therefore, fighting Golovkin, Wilder and Canelo-level opponents makes perfect sense.
Ward hasn't approached "top fighters" in years. He demanded 3 tuneups (3 of the boxers he tried to get were old 168 pounders...like Brand) before signing some sort of tentative agreement to fight Kovalev, which he could easily walk away from.
Even these lowly foes, he is trying to chump change, so you know any reputable opponent won't receive half of what they deserve.
If you say so.
Fact is the only boxer that has ability to beat him is Kov and that is happening very soon
You mean like Ali holding 209lb Frazier 133 times during fight #2 or initiating no less than ninety-five clinches to Frazier’s one in the “The Thrilla in Manila”?
He barely clinched THE SMALLER Haye nor Byrd. In fact Peter & Povetkin are both naturally bigger HW's & he clinched them much more (especially Pov)..
You should check out Hopkins vs. Wright too LOL
Nobody is clinching (smaller) guys whom he is able to cope with -- Andre Ward is a good example.
I counted the number of times Hopkins clinched Joe Calzaghe as well lost my picture that had it all detailed with clinch per round lol.
The funny side to this is that Hopkins probably didn't clinch as much in that fight compared to the other one you mentioned but it still was a hell of a lot then people tell me Hopkins won that fight, I don't see it.
Think that's bad?
http://www.boxingscene.com/compubox-132-clinches-during-hopkins-wright--9623
I bet he was happy to let Hopkins get away with it!
I counted the number of times Hopkins clinched Joe Calzaghe as well lost my picture that had it all detailed with clinch per round lol.
The funny side to this is that Hopkins probably didn't clinch as much in that fight compared to the other one you mentioned but it still was a hell of a lot then people tell me Hopkins won that fight, I don't see it.
Dirty cheating and he has no boxing skills that's likely what his opinion on that is :)
My opinion Is Wladimir is a pretty talented fighter but without the clinching, he'd likely have lost a good couple more times possibly.
I bet he was happy to let Hopkins get away with it!
Klitschko is clinching smaller guys into submission -- this ain't right, doe...
You mean like Ali holding 209lb Frazier 133 times during fight #2 or initiating no less than ninety-five clinches to Frazier’s one in the “The Thrilla in Manila”?
He barely clinched THE SMALLER Haye nor Byrd. In fact Peter & Povetkin are both naturally bigger HW's & he clinched them much more (especially Pov)..
You should check out Hopkins vs. Wright too LOL
Dirty cheating and he has no boxing skills that's likely what his opinion on that is :)
My opinion Is Wladimir is a pretty talented fighter but without the clinching, he'd likely have lost a good couple more times possibly.
W Klitschko is clinching smaller guys into submission -- this ain't right, doe...
I wonder what his opinion on WK's clinching is?
Dirty cheating and he has no boxing skills that's likely what his opinion on that is :)
My opinion Is Wladimir is a pretty talented fighter but without the clinching, he'd likely have lost a good couple more times possibly.
Ward hasn't approached "top fighters" in years. He demanded 3 tuneups (3 of the boxers he tried to get were old 168 pounders...like Brand) before signing some sort of tentative agreement to fight Kovalev, which he could easily walk away from.
Even these lowly foes, he is trying to chump change, so you know any reputable opponent won't receive half of what they deserve.
So much misinformation. For starters, offering a fighter their career high payday isn't considered chump change.
BTW, why spend so much time slandering someone you don't like or know? A few negative posts from time to time would suffice......
Top fighters, don't play yourself
Ward hasn't approached "top fighters" in years. He demanded 3 tuneups (3 of the boxers he tried to get were old 168 pounders...like Brand) before signing some sort of tentative agreement to fight Kovalev, which he could easily walk away from.
Even these lowly foes, he is trying to chump change, so you know any reputable opponent won't receive half of what they deserve.
That's the first link.
The second link I posted is about turning down Shabranskyy to fight Brand.
https://twitter.com/b57_sports/status/728998057631727617
Shabranskyy just wanted the same money for the summer 2016 fight Barrera had received earlier this year.
... "you don't get rich on us", doe... (I'm bored by repeating this one.)
I actually like when Ward fights bums. You can see his skill on display. None of the clinching/headbutting or any of that other sh1t when he's facing a bum.
His work rate and variety are great and he never tries to spoil in those fights.
Very true ^^^ ..................
no...I pointed out you guys are hypocrites...if you are going to be critical about who fighters fight...do it across the board
simple as that....you wont because you have some sort of crazy agenda.
No you Floyd stans are hypocrites. All you wrongfully accuse GGG fans as being PAC fans but you fail to see that the majority of Floyd fans are Ward fans now
Like you Larry x, imadazed, need I go on?
You fools are always calling the kettle black it humiliating yet to have the nerve to try and puff up your chest like you are a really skilled unbiased poster? You sp it the same sh it out of your mouth only bashing on one fighter for something that is out of his control. His people talk sh it and you hold him to it as if he is the one running his mouth.
You always puff up the black fighters and give no love to foreign fighters but you call yourself unbiased? At leas have the heart to speak
The truth. I hate Floyd because he never fully tested himself after Oscar. But posters like you will bring up all the belts he won then sh it on GGG cause he wants all the belts (that's hypocritical in case you didn't know). All the belt holders left in his division are afraid to face him and hide behind this outrageous demand for $$$. Yet that is some how GGG fault? He was promised to fight Can'tNelo or Jotto and he got jobbed but instead of talking sh it to the poosies Jotto and Can'tNelo you talk sh it to GGG? Really? Why not say the truth both Can'tNelo and Jotto are f@ggs who don't want to fight someone in their own fawking weight class. That's embarrassing! GGG has all the challenges he needs in his own weightclass yet no one wants to step up.