Do you genuinely think Floyd would have stayed undefeated if he fought Cotto, Mosley, De La Hoya, Pacquiao in their primes? Also if he hypothetically fought Margarito & Williams as well. Do you think he would have still beat them all if he fought them all at their very best?
Hey idiot I know you have no critical thinking skills but I'll give you a hint since your dumb as a door knob the saline is used to clean out your system from steroid use. 750 Ml is not used for dehydration my wife who's an RN told me Floyd is lucky he didn't get a heart attack in using that much Saline. Now go back to doing your 1st grade math
Using 750 ml of saline does not equal steroid use. You're deducing one thing from another. nothing was found in his system despite doing random style drug testing. And the fact that you're so obsessed with Floyd you even discuss his saline use with your wife just shows how obsessive you are lol.
Talk about a lack of reasoning skills.
I have a question for you fanboy? Why do you Floyd nut gobblers get so butthurt when other dont praise him as much as you guys.
The dude is undefeated no doubt and there is no changing it. Nobody is ever doubting how good he is.
But this thread is people opinion of what they think Floyd would have done if he faced the guys he beat when they were prime? Big f'ing deal if there opinion is they think he would lose.
But damn you fanboy nut gobblers get so butthurt. Chill fanboy.
awwww you're breaking my heart......would he be in his prime too? Most of his big wins he was past prime himself and the older fighter outside of mosely and DLH
why would I be butthurt when all Mayweather did was prove me right....he beat Pacquaio, he was the best of the generation and everyone they said he ducked he went on to beat....the only ones who sound butthurt are the guys living in fantasy land
enjoy bro
The real question is:
Would Floyd still beat all those other fighters if he fought them while they were actively cheating?
That's more like it.
PACQROID ducked testing
Mosley confirmed cheat
Margarito confirmed cheat
De la hoya most likely cheated frequently
And yes. Floyd still out boxes them all. That's why they ALL avoided young Floyd
FACTS
You forget that the version of Mosely that Oscar fought was otherworldly and IMO would have been to much for Floyd too.
But you seem to forget the version of Mosely that Oscar fought was on the BALCO sauce and juiced out of his gord. That's how he was able to beat Oscar. You forgot that, huh?
Plus the version of Floyd that Oscar fought was a prime Floyd and even though Floyd won its wasn't a dominating win it was just a UD by two-three rounds.
IMO you put prime Floyd vs a prime version of Oscar and I'll take Oscar.
I'm sure you would kmsl
You couldn't see him lose in real life so all you have is fantasy land
Living the dream bro...keep living the dream lol
Williams was MUCH MUCH taller, had a longer reach and was a genuine combination puncher. Floyd always struggled against combination punchers, heck b/c level sluggers had sustained success against Mayweather and most of them were shorter and physically inferior.
Wlliams with his size advantage would be a lot to handle. There's a reason May never took the Williams or Margy fights.
You speak about Marg losing like top fighters never lost, they lost cos they faced each other (Marg v Cotto v Mosley). Mayweather retired to avoid them, came back and fought a vastly undersized JMM and when he got asked about it, he said he fought JMM over Cotto/Marg/Williams cos apparently JMM called him out LOL
You keep dreaming though.
So because they were bigger and throw a lot of punches they beat him
Corrales, ndo, g. Hernandez, dlh were all in the 5'10"-11" range
Great assessment...so quintana wasn't dwarfed by Williams?
Margo wasn't bigger than Cotto, Mosley, and PAC?
Lol...money beat all 3 of them lol...hall of famers...Margo got that azz battered by all 3
Groundbreaking assessment kmsl
Yea he retired to avoid them lol...even though he fought better more accomplished fighters than margo n williams before and after he retired in 07
Spare me the elementary school level trolling
Your technique needs work
Margo lost to Williams in 07 pbf fought hatton n dlh n hatton
Williams lost to quintana a few months after pbf beat hatton n moved up in 08
Can't rewrite history
lol...williams got outboxed by the great carlos quintana but you have him even money with a true ATG who literally does everything better
yea right....Lara really beat him too...
Margo lost to every elite fighter he faced
can we get a break down of how these most feared welterweights
( they were hyped as this til they actually fought elite fights and got their azzes kicked) beat mayweather in his prime?
Williams was MUCH MUCH taller, had a longer reach and was a genuine combination puncher. Floyd always struggled against combination punchers, heck b/c level sluggers had sustained success against Mayweather and most of them were shorter and physically inferior.
Wlliams with his size advantage would be a lot to handle. There's a reason May never took the Williams or Margy fights.
You speak about Marg losing like top fighters never lost, they lost cos they faced each other (Marg v Cotto v Mosley). Mayweather retired to avoid them, came back and fought a vastly undersized JMM and when he got asked about it, he said he fought JMM over Cotto/Marg/Williams cos apparently JMM called him out LOL
You keep dreaming though.
I totally agree with how much Oscar is undersold by this generation of boxing fans. In his prime he was fast, had tremendous power, had an all time great jab and had overall great skills. IMO you had to be a true all time great to beat oscar in his prime.
As far as a prime Oscar vs prime Floyd at 147, shoot that would be a great fight. I slightly lean toward Oscar more just because he was so much better than the fighter he was when he faced Floyd. Oscar attacked in that fight but he was slower than usual, he was flat footed and was pretty much a part time fighter at the stage. Plus when he did face Floyd, Floyd was at his peak and in his prime. I'd say a prime Oscar had the abitily to turn the tide and get a close UD with a good possibility to land something big.
People forget it took a prime Mosely who was also juiced up to beat a prime Oscar.
'Prime' Oscar got flummoxed by movement and was outboxed by Shane Mosely over the last 6 rounds of that fight.
Not hard to imagine an even better boxer, with more foot speed and defensive ability, being able to do the same.
Lol look at his idiot. An IV is not a steroid. It's saline :lol1:.
And to answer the thread title, yes I believe he would have still been undefeated especially if Floyd was also in his prime. I, like many here, think Oscar in his prime is Floyd's stiffest matchup.
Hey idiot I know you have no critical thinking skills but I'll give you a hint since your dumb as a door knob the saline is used to clean out your system from steroid use. 750 Ml is not used for dehydration my wife who's an RN told me Floyd is lucky he didn't get a heart attack in using that much Saline. Now go back to doing your 1st grade math
In terms of individual match-ups, Floyd would probable be favored against those guys. But had he fought them all in almost back to back fashion (big fight, tune up, big fight, tune up... or even 2 big fights in a row then a tune up) then no, I can't see him being undefeated.
cant dispute a thing I said
Been schooling you for years
:owned2:
Hardly. You have a psychological disorder which is why you spam the board as a full-time job repeating the same sh1t over and over. You're truly the worst poster here.
if im stating facts, i dont give a crap
You've been the laughing stock of this forum for years...doesnt seem to bother you
Winky was a middleweight by 2005 and mayweather just got to 140...the fight wasnt realistic
and both of you dont know ***** about boxing...you just troll, then someone like me schools you and you have the childish insults and replys.....rinse wash and repeat
You can laugh at me all day as long as I taught you a lesson and gave you the correct info
trolling is more effective you actually follow the sport and know the game....Pac Boy and Irony123 should hold trolling expos
:lol1::lol1::lol1:
Lmaooooooooooo
I believe he would lose to Oscar by UD and Mosley by KO(it's a pitty Mosley was the one that ducked that one). Pac is 50/50 because Pac has a very short reach.
Williams would get outboxed worse than the Quintana bout. Margarito beats him via tko in a fight Floyd would be winning on points. Then again Margarito probably had bricks.
In conclusion I'm sure Oscar wins a UD and Mosley KO's him. Pac is 50/50. Margarito shouldn't count because of his bricks.
LMAO in what galaxy, on which planet?
Lol you're oblivious to why people laugh at you
if im stating facts, i dont give a crap
You've been the laughing stock of this forum for years...doesnt seem to bother you
Winky was a middleweight by 2005 and mayweather just got to 140...the fight wasnt realistic
and both of you dont know ***** about boxing...you just troll, then someone like me schools you and you have the childish insults and replys.....rinse wash and repeat
You can laugh at me all day as long as I taught you a lesson and gave you the correct info
trolling is more effective you actually follow the sport and know the game....Pac Boy and Irony123 should hold trolling expos
He doesn't beat oscar, mosley or pacquiao prime. He'd still beat cotton but it'd be tough and Williams and margy are 50-50.
lol...williams got outboxed by the great carlos quintana but you have him even money with a true ATG who literally does everything better
yea right....Lara really beat him too...
Margo lost to every elite fighter he faced
can we get a break down of how these most feared welterweights
( they were hyped as this til they actually fought elite fights and got their azzes kicked) beat mayweather in his prime?
Do you genuinely think Floyd would have stayed undefeated if he fought Cotto, Mosley, De La Hoya, Pacquiao in their primes? Also if he hypothetically fought Margarito & Williams as well. Do you think he would have still beat them all if he fought them all at their very best?
He doesn't beat oscar, mosley or pacquiao prime. He'd still beat cotton but it'd be tough and Williams and margy are 50-50.