He has a better resume than most of the boxers on the P4P list. His only two defeats have been to Pacquiao.
When Hopkins lost to Calzaghe, he wasn't removed. Neither did Marquez when he lost to Pacquiao.
Marquez
Peterson
Pacquiao - I thought he lost but to some he won the first fight.
Witter
Vazquez
Holt
Alexander
Holt
Provodnikov
Vargas
Rios
Chaves
He deserves to be top 5 easy. Everybody else fighting tune ups while Bradley stays consistent with challenges.
Garcia is all smoke and mirrors. He's fought nobody, and lost to Herrera but was gifted the home town decision. Any of 10 guys that he finally steps up to fight will beat him easily.
He has a better resume than most of the boxers on the P4P list. His only two defeats have been to Pacquiao.
When Hopkins lost to Calzaghe, he wasn't removed. Neither did Marquez when he lost to Pacquiao.
Marquez
Peterson
Pacquiao - I thought he lost but to some he won the first fight.
Witter
Vazquez
Holt
Alexander
Holt
Provodnikov
Vargas
Rios
Chaves
He deserves to be top 5 easy. Everybody else fighting tune ups while Bradley stays consistent with challenges.
Because they have a couple fighters who dont belong. People have a style preference over a substance preference
IMO Bradley and Danny Garcia should be in or close to it.....it gets tougher at the top level and people hold it against them that they got a decision or two in their favor that some people dont like...so stupid they ignore the substance which is elite talent and deep resume
they've both fought a variety of styles and still remain near the top of their divisions. Both are two division titlists with a resume that craps on more hyped fighters
Bradley sure as hell isn't top 5. He hasn't even had a p4p quality win since Marquez. What fights he has won, he hasn't looked particularly great doing so. His glory days have come and gone and he has to reprove himself.
Not saying he isn't p4p at all, but I can understand not having him on the list at this moment.
Funny bc i was arguing that with friends during the thurman fight saying the winner is the top dog at WWim like um BROOK beat porter much more easily and then im like no one in mentioning bradley ....he would probably beat both of these guys including Brook also....honestly Bradley should be #1 right now his Resume is the best in the division by FAR
#1 Bradley
#2Brook
#3 garcia
#4 thurman
#5 Porter
He has boxing skills too. He outboxed Marquez. According to the people that think he won vs Pacquiao in the first fight, he outboxed him too. Not just anybody does that. Bradley also beat another boxer in Vazquez.
That same Marquez went life and death with Alvarado. Bradley while a great fighter is very overrated on here. The guy literally can't throw straight punches.
He has a better resume than most of the boxers on the P4P list. His only two defeats have been to Pacquiao.
When Hopkins lost to Calzaghe, he wasn't removed. Neither did Marquez when he lost to Pacquiao.
Marquez
Peterson
Pacquiao - I thought he lost but to some he won the first fight.
Witter
Vazquez
Holt
Alexander
Holt
Provodnikov
Vargas
Rios
Chaves
He deserves to be top 5 easy. Everybody else fighting tune ups while Bradley stays consistent with challenges.
Because losing fights and having a bad run of form in recent fights doesn't boost your P4P ranking it actually damages it, I'd have thought that much would be self-explanatory.
He has a better resume than most of the boxers on the P4P list. His only two defeats have been to Pacquiao.
When Hopkins lost to Calzaghe, he wasn't removed. Neither did Marquez when he lost to Pacquiao.
Marquez
Peterson
Pacquiao - I thought he lost but to some he won the first fight.
Witter
Vazquez
Holt
Alexander
Holt
Provodnikov
Vargas
Rios
Chaves
He deserves to be top 5 easy. Everybody else fighting tune ups while Bradley stays consistent with challenges.
He is on mine and has been for a long time now.
People who don't have him on their list dont know **** about this sport.
My list probably looks something like:
Kovalev
GGG
Gonzalez
Wlad
Fury
Bradley
Canelo
Stevenson
Estrada
Yamanaka
Now, some names, like Estrada and Stevenson can possibly be replaced by Inoue and Crawford but I'm keeping them off mine just for now.
Kov, GGG, Gonzalez, Wlad, Fury and Bradley are must, although I haven't arranged them in a proper order just yet.
All the others can be replaced in my book.
He has a better resume than most of the boxers on the P4P list. His only two defeats have been to Pacquiao.
When Hopkins lost to Calzaghe, he wasn't removed. Neither did Marquez when he lost to Pacquiao.
Marquez
Peterson
Pacquiao - I thought he lost but to some he won the first fight.
Witter
Vazquez
Holt
Alexander
Holt
Provodnikov
Vargas
Rios
Chaves
He deserves to be top 5 easy. Everybody else fighting tune ups while Bradley stays consistent with challenges.
pound4pound as it means Bradley cannot punch at any weight:notworthy
I saw it 3-0 as well but there were a lot of people who thought Pacquiao truly lost on the first one. You've seen them on here too don't lie.
Ok explain to me why those top 5 boxers deserve to be higher than Bradley? What did they achieve that's greater? I would ask for 10 but I don't think you'd reach that high.
Define "a lot" because I'm quite sure over 95% of people thought Pacquaio won clearly.
He beat Jesse Vargas who's a top WW in 2015. Nice try.
I agree but Vargas it was his first fight at 147 so it wasn't until he beat Saddam Ali to secure his top 10 spot
Bradley is one of the most overrated boxers on the planet. His resume is pretty weak in all honesty, his best win (legit win) comes over Marquez, who was 40 years old and a smaller man. I believe the first Pacman fight was closer than a lot of people think... but he still lost it... and lost comfortably in the rematch. The rest of his resume is fairly weak... names like Holt, Witter, Provodnikov, Vargas etc... hardly set the world alight... these are all guys that never actually achieved much and were/are weak title holders.
Bradley would not be favourite against 3 or 4 names in his own division (Brook, Spence, Thurman)... so how could he be a top 10 P4P fighter?
To summarise, Bradley is, and always has been overrated and on inspection, really hasn't got a defining win on his resume.
If I remember correctly, even when Bradley beat Marquez, Marquez was still on the list. It wasn't till the long inactivity till they decided to drop him.
Depends where you are on the list, who you lose to, how you looked in the fight, how good the people who could replace you on the list are etc. I think there is a good case for Bradley to be on the list now too, I mean at worst he's in the top 15.
TBRB still ranks Bradley in the top 10. http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/
I saw it 3-0 as well but there were a lot of people who thought Pacquiao truly lost on the first one. You've seen them on here too don't lie.
Ok explain to me why those top 5 boxers deserve to be higher than Bradley? What did they achieve that's greater? I would ask for 10 but I don't think you'd reach that high.
C'mon bro, no sane person thought Bradley won that first fight.
Top 5 I would say are Gonzalez, Kovalev, Ward, Rigo, and GGG. Resume is important but let's disregard it for a minute and pretend they all weigh the same; does Bradley beat any of those guys? You would tell me with a straight face that you would actually bet money on Bradley to beat any of those guys? This is a big P4P criteria right here.
He was towards the bottom of The Ring's P4P list and was removed after the third Pacquiao fight. There is a good chance he'd be reintroduced into the list if he came back with a win over a solid opponent.
If I remember correctly, even when Bradley beat Marquez, Marquez was still on the list. It wasn't till the long inactivity till they decided to drop him.
Overall Bradley is greater but right now there better he hasn't beat a notable fighter since Marquez in 2013 so he needs some fights to be #1 again he was number 2 behind Mayweather from June 12-Apr 14 and I'm one of the few people who saw Bradley beating Pacquaio in 2012 fair and square
He beat Jesse Vargas who's a top WW in 2015. Nice try.
The Hopkins and Marquez comparisons don't really fit because those were controversial losses that many felt they won. This guy lost to the same guy 3-0 convincingly so it's hard to rank him high even with his very good resume. I think he's still p4p 10-15 but not top 5 by any means. Plus it's not probable he'll fight Thurman, Porter, Brook, Spence, Garcia, or Vasquez so it's hard to see him move up the ranks.
I saw it 3-0 as well but there were a lot of people who thought Pacquiao truly lost on the first one. You've seen them on here too don't lie.
Ok explain to me why those top 5 boxers deserve to be higher than Bradley? What did they achieve that's greater? I would ask for 10 but I don't think you'd reach that high.
What has Brook and Thurman done greater than Bradley? They haven't done jack shit compared to what Bradley has done. Sure they both beat Porter and Thurman beat Chaves but that doesn't come close to some of the names I've listed.
Marquez was coming off the biggest win of his career and Bradley shut him down. Lately he's beaten Vargas who's a top Welter. If Bradley was a MW, he would of fought GGG a long time ago. That's what fighters do.
Overall Bradley is greater but right now there better he hasn't beat a notable fighter since Marquez in 2013 so he needs some fights to be #1 again he was number 2 behind Mayweather from June 12-Apr 14 and I'm one of the few people who saw Bradley beating Pacquaio in 2012 fair and square
He was towards the bottom of The Ring's P4P list and was removed after the third Pacquiao fight. There is a good chance he'd be reintroduced into the list if he came back with a win over a solid opponent.