Quillin said gg didn't want to fight himon Showtime or let the fight go to purse bud

Doesn't matter what I want , I gotta live in reality. This. Until PQ got KO'd, GGG/PQ would have been an interesting scrap, but that's it. As a GGG fan I probably would have bought it. Point remains, PQ wanted a certain level of compensation for his risk, that wasn't going to be supported via marketplace or otherwise. Sure, it could have went to bid and someone could have bid the necessary amt to get PQ his purse demand. but last I heard, promoters at that level are not in it to lose $$$

Ok you just ignored everything I wrote. Not only ignoring what I wrote but flat out lying. You said Showtimes ratings have plummeted since Quillin-Jacobs but there have been thre fights this year that's done better and there ratings have been trending upwards since that fight. But why should I bother posting that proof when you'll ignore it? Lomchenko is doing the same numbers on HBO as he did on Showtime. His numbers on HBO should be significantly higher according to you. So why aren't they? Their numbers have plummeted since Loma vs Russell, when GBP was still on Showtime, dummy. Why are you complaining about me ignoring your off topic bellyaching ? Why even bring up Loma, we re talking Quillin and his pathetic numbers off HBO

GRJ vs. Lomachenko averaged 578,000 viewers as an undercard fight (SHO). Vasyl Lomachenko and Romulo Koasicha averaged 585,000 viewers(HBO). His main event bout against Martinez averaged 585,000(HBO). The only fight he's cracked a million is against Salido. While Salido just did 800,000+ against Vargas. And now Arum is talking about moving him to PPV. And another point about what I said earlier. When the Kovalev-Stevenson purse bid was supposed to happen and Duva pulled out. One of her reasons for pulling out was that HBO had been loyal to Kovalev. He didn't have an HBO deal when the purse bid was called. He was a free agent and HBO had a right of first refusal to his next fight. Her fighter took the short money because HBO invested in him. Showtime was willing to work with Arum to get the Walters fight made. Bob didn't want to move the date because he wanted Verdejo fighting in NY on PR weekend. The fight flopped. But that was his business decision. He did what he thought was best for his company. But god damn if Haymon makes a business decision. All hell breaks loose. But notice the difference between Haymon's decisions and Duva's and Arum's? They're doing what's best for their company. Haymon is doing what's best for his clients. So wtf is Klimas doing? "5100" Bradley vs. Rios https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTQUEg2VEAAxXZO.jpg Attendance at The Theater tonight is 4,545, about 600 short of a sellout. With 2 Puerto Ricans featured on eve of Puerto Rican Day Parade— Keith Idec (@Idecboxing) June 12, 2016 "Fans" surrounding Lomachenko at his workout Fans surround @vasyllomachenko on this rainy NYC day as he hits the heavy bag.#MartinezLomachenko pic.twitter.com/TAr4n81njy— HBOboxing (@HBOboxing) June 8, 2016 Showtime ratings have plummeted since, eg that Jacobs Quillin disaster. How much better would the ratings have been on HBO for that one, 3x? Haymon is not a promoter, right? So what's with the comparison? He's more of a manager, so doing best for his clients is in his job description. Of course it helps that unlike those promoters he's not risking his money, someone else is funding and taking the risk.

Would you rather see fighters signed into network deals or all fighters free agents and networks (or even promoters) bid for their services? Doesn't matter what I want , I gotta live in reality. But bids are not the end all: for example GBP beat TR for Loma vs Russell by 2k. The additional exposure they'd have gotten on HBO is worth many times that

Get off those nuts man..you're lapdancing that coward like he's Hagler or some shi.t. Lmao Pete ain't nowhere near Hagler's level. Theirs levels to this game son.

The other bidder was Showtime not Haymon. The way I see it is if you aren't going to make a longterm investment in his clients or compete with the open markey, you're going to overpay for their services. The same thing is done in the NFL with the franchise tag. If you aren't going to give a player a long term deal, you're going to overpay for one season because you've put the franchise tag on him and he can't offer his services to the open market. It's normal business practices. If a company wants my services I have a different rate for one job than I do if they want my services for multiple jobs. Von Miller from the Broncos is pissed off they gave him the franchise tag and he's talking about sitting out a season. He's put in the work to get a long term deal but the Broncos won't give him a long term deal and they won't allow him to test the open market. He could injure himself playing this year and have nothing long-term. A boxer could get hurt in the ring and have nothing long-term. If you don't want to bid in an open market you gotta over pay. Economics 101 You mean the other bidder is one of Haymon renta promoters. As for the rest, Quillin career high at that point was 400k on an undercard? Whatever he was offered to fight on HBO, would have been far more. But it wasn't gonna be a mega ppv like Floyd vs PAC, as he'd want to face Ggg

The other bidder was Showtime not Haymon. The way I see it is if you aren't going to make a longterm investment in his clients or compete with the open markey, you're going to overpay for their services. The same thing is done in the NFL with the franchise tag. If you aren't going to give a player a long term deal, you're going to overpay for one season because you've put the franchise tag on him and he can't offer his services to the open market. It's normal business practices. If a company wants my services I have a different rate for one job than I do if they want my services for multiple jobs. Von Miller from the Broncos is pissed off they gave him the franchise tag and he's talking about sitting out a season. He's put in the work to get a long term deal but the Broncos won't give him a long term deal and they won't allow him to test the open market. He could injure himself playing this year and have nothing long-term. A boxer could get hurt in the ring and have nothing long-term. If you don't want to bid in an open market you gotta over pay. Economics 101 IIRC, Peter Quillin wanted PPV-level money to fight GGG. GGG/PQ fight was never PPV worthy. Would have been a big money loser. So let him go fight someone else.

Why would you think that? They've extended it multiple times Sh*t, I don't know. Probably got him confused with another fighter, thanks for clarifying.

I thought GGG was a free agent and fought exclusively on HBO out of loyalty? How long is his contract with HBO? Why would you think that? They've extended it multiple times

ggg couldn't fight on showtime i thought we went over this? quillin could fight on hbo but he refused to fight ggg and korobov for 1.4 million because that was when haymon was using his fighters as puppets in his own personal war against hbo. doing what was best for his fighters lmao I thought GGG was a free agent and fought exclusively on HBO out of loyalty? How long is his contract with HBO?

ggg couldn't fight on showtime i thought we went over this? quillin could fight on hbo but he refused to fight ggg and korobov for 1.4 million because that was when haymon was using his fighters as puppets in his own personal war against hbo. doing what was best for his fighters lmao

Don't start crying when that WBA title gets stripped when Golovkin-Jacobs goes to purse bids. :bottle::bottle::bottle: Lol pathetic. Scurry along loser

Quillin has also faced better opponents than GGG the last few years....Andy Lee, Danny Jacobs, Winky wright(past prime), N, Jikam, etc. He is a prizefighter....$$$$$ matter too...Quillin obviously would fight him if the money is fair. when the fight was proposed at tfirst GGG, didnt have the exposure of hype he has now Had he beat Jacobs im sure the fight would have happened yea he got stopped but its boxing....he tried his best to continue....did they have a standing 8 count? if they did Quillin should have had that opportunity to recoup, thats an eternity for a world class fighter. oh well. under the unified rules for world title fights, there is no standing 8 count. You would think that "mr. boxrec" would know a detail like that.

they are PRIZEfighters you know.:boxing: So explain why he didn't fight Korobov for his biggest purse ever then?

oh I remember quillin refused ggg because he's not famous enough yet he's hasnt headlined ang ggg had numerous http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/423/ragecomic.png?1311384677 first time headlining a card and get ktfo in 1st round lmao Quillin has also faced better opponents than GGG the last few years....Andy Lee, Danny Jacobs, Winky wright(past prime), N, Jikam, etc. He is a prizefighter....$$$$$ matter too...Quillin obviously would fight him if the money is fair. when the fight was proposed at tfirst GGG, didnt have the exposure of hype he has now Had he beat Jacobs im sure the fight would have happened yea he got stopped but its boxing....he tried his best to continue....did they have a standing 8 count? if they did Quillin should have had that opportunity to recoup, thats an eternity for a world class fighter. oh well.

http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af160/yevskiy426/priceisrightcopy_zps3ee97c66.jpg they are PRIZEfighters you know.:boxing:

Idk thst I believe Quillin. But this makes gg look like a coward for not negotiating in good faith or going to a purse bid at least I think its obvious K2 wants the right opponents for the right price. All the good prospective opponents couldnt possibly be pricing themselves out or their teams cant possibly be that hard to negotiate with. Seems like K2 doesnt really want to come out of pocket for top notch opponents. Well he is being promoted as a killer, so what better than to fight overmatched opponents to build that aura before cashing out. Collect the belts, its obvious he doesnt have to fight for them anyway, considering 2/3 of his belts were handed to him. sooner or later k2 is going to have to meet someone halfway or near it.

oh I remember quillin refused ggg because he's not famous enough yet he's hasnt headlined ang ggg had numerous http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/423/ragecomic.png?1311384677 first time headlining a card and get ktfo in 1st round lmao

If you vacate your title to duck a guy like Koborov I can only imagine how hard you would run from GGG. I remeember GGG hunting a unification fight with Quillin at the time and Quillin bullshitting about how he didn't know who GGG was/he didn't bring enough money etc etc

GGG was legally contracted to HBO. Quillin was working with Showtime but not contracted to Showtime. Quillin didn't want to take less money fighting on HBO than he could've gotten on the open market and GGG couldn't fight off HBO. As of now I don't think any of Haymon fighters are signed to Showtime or any network. I don't think Haymon has a problem with his fighters fighting on any network. He has a problem with his fighters getting below what they would get on the open market. Maybe letting the networks bid for fights might be the best route to go for the fighters and promoters. That's funny cause he's the only other bidder. Either way Hbo is not a charity, and they're trying to be responsible with their falling budget. That means not getting into purse bids for undercard starlets. So if you wanna fight an HBO exclusive, it better be on Hbo and you're better off with the extra exposure an Hbo main event brings. If you win, of course