Ok, GGG is wrong for saying he'd go up to 168 and when Ward called him on it he backed off. Now that Ward cleaned out 168 and basically had no comp he was being called on for not moving up and says he moved up intentionally even though we all know he was forced up. Do GGG fouled up and Ward fouled up too. Why did Ward still want to fight the smaller man? Yes GGG fouled up by going back on what he said, but at the end of the day Ward still wanted to fight the smaller man....till he eventually was forced up by all the critics....that's the truth. How come people are taking sides and not just admitting they're both fvcked up? I'm on the latter team
Ok, GGG is wrong for saying he'd go up to 168 and when Ward called him on it he backed off. Now that Ward cleaned out 168 and basically had no comp he was being called on for not moving up and says he moved up intentionally even though we all know he was forced up. Do GGG fouled up and Ward fouled up too. Why did Ward still want to fight the smaller man? Yes GGG fouled up by going back on what he said, but at the end of the day Ward still wanted to fight the smaller man....till he eventually was forced up by all the critics....that's the truth. How come people are taking sides and not just admitting they're both fvcked up? I'm on the latter team
Ward moved up because he could no longer make 168.
By Chris Williams: Despite holding down the IBO/WBA middleweight and WBC interim middleweight titles, Gennady Golovkin (32-0, 29 KOs) says he could easily drop down to 154 to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr or Manny Pacquiao if either of the two fighters were interested in facing him.
Golovkin points out that he’s a small middleweight and how recently weighed in at 158 for his last fight against Martin Murray. Golovkin says he’d be more than willing to meet boxing’s two biggest superstars at 154 if they were agreeable to taking the fight.
“Absolutely,” Golovkin said via Fighthype when asked if he’d be willing to fight Mayweather or Pacquiao at 154. “This is business. I understand; this is boxing business. It’s not a lot of weight to lose. My last fight, I’m 58. I’m not big guy.”
In the case of Pacquiao, Golovkin would likely have to drain down all the way to 147 for that fight, because Pacquiao hasn’t been too eager to fight at junior middleweight ever since he captured the WBC junior middleweight title back in 2010 when he was given a catch-weight handicap of 150 pounds to win the vacant WBC 154 pound title against Antonio Margarito.
What was interesting about that fight was that Margarito was a welterweight, as was Pacquiao, and the two of them were able to leap frog the junior middleweight contenders to fight over the vacant WBC 154 pound title, albeit at 150 rather than 154. I don’t think Pacquiao would agree to fight Golovkin at a 150.
I’m guessing he would be asked to melt down all the way to 147 to take the fight, just like Oscar De La Hoya had to melt down to fight Pacquiao at 147. De La Hoya ended up too weak to fight, and the rest was history.
Pacquiao won an easy fight that made him look great and De La Hoya look terrible. I don’t think Golovkin would be willing to risk putting himself in the hospital by draining down too much weight and ending up physically sick from dehydrating himself to get down to unnatural weight.
I don’t see Golokin ever getting a fight against Mayweather or Pacquiao, because the fights don’t make business sense. First off, Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum would likely never let Pacquiao fight a slugger like Golovkin because the risk would be too high. If Golovkin were to knock Pacquiao clean out, he could potentially ruin the gravy train.
If Pacquiao were to get knocked out real bad by Golokvin, there would be a risk that Pacquiao’s chin would be compromised. I don’t think Arum would want to see Pacquiao potentially go downhill from then on with him getting knocked out left and right by any Top Rank stable fighter that Arum matches him up against. But the biggest reason why Golovkin won’t get fights against either guy is because he just doesn’t have the name value in the U.S.
They want to face opposition that is PPV stars or close to it and Golovkin isn’t at the level of a PPV fighter yet. To be honest, Golovkin may never reach that level. He lacks the charisma that Mayweather has, and he doesn’t have a huge following like Pacquiao has with his built in fan base.
Mayweather would likely agree to fight Golovkin at 154, but not 160, and he wouldn’t ask for a catch-weight handicap. As long as Golovkin could get down to 154, it would be a fight that could be possible.
Golovkin really is in no position to be talking about fighting anyone right now because he has a fight coming up on May 16th against a very good fighter in Willie Monroe (19-1, 6 KOs) at the Forum in Inglewood, California. I give Monroe a very good chance of out-boxing Golovkin in this fight with his hand speed and movement.
Sorry dude, saying 'I can make 154 for winner of Floyd/Pac is by no definition a 'call out'. A call out is 'I want to fight X'.
Ward was asked if he wanted to fight Floyd, he said he could drop down to 160 to fight him. But that doesn't qualify as a call out either.
Golovkin has publicly said that Manny's too small and he doesn't want to fight him. Here's a link.
1-prove it. Find an article.
2-wrong. He wanted to fight a star, lineal champ in his own weight class instead of waiting an undetermined amount of time to fight an unpopular fighter one or two weight classes above him. Only people who hate Golovkin think it's somehow a duck. They're usually also the same fools who think he's ducking canelo at 155. Golovkin should fight a 175 Ward or drain himself for canelo, right? Anything to get him beat.
3-blah blah, c class fighters. Get your crap out of here. Who are these A class fighters that want to fight him?
I'm still waiting for names. The closest we've gotten was Ward with "50/50 after a few tune ups" or Lara, aka "call my manager and pay me $3m, a sum you haven't yet earned yourself".
You guys will say anything to get a fighter beat. The most recent trend of bullsh1t is that Golovkin is on PEDs. Jump on that bs train too.
By Chris Williams: Despite holding down the IBO/WBA middleweight and WBC interim middleweight titles, Gennady Golovkin (32-0, 29 KOs) says he could easily drop down to 154 to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr or Manny Pacquiao if either of the two fighters were interested in facing him.
Golovkin points out that he’s a small middleweight and how recently weighed in at 158 for his last fight against Martin Murray. Golovkin says he’d be more than willing to meet boxing’s two biggest superstars at 154 if they were agreeable to taking the fight.
“Absolutely,” Golovkin said via Fighthype when asked if he’d be willing to fight Mayweather or Pacquiao at 154. “This is business. I understand; this is boxing business. It’s not a lot of weight to lose. My last fight, I’m 58. I’m not big guy.”
In the case of Pacquiao, Golovkin would likely have to drain down all the way to 147 for that fight, because Pacquiao hasn’t been too eager to fight at junior middleweight ever since he captured the WBC junior middleweight title back in 2010 when he was given a catch-weight handicap of 150 pounds to win the vacant WBC 154 pound title against Antonio Margarito.
What was interesting about that fight was that Margarito was a welterweight, as was Pacquiao, and the two of them were able to leap frog the junior middleweight contenders to fight over the vacant WBC 154 pound title, albeit at 150 rather than 154. I don’t think Pacquiao would agree to fight Golovkin at a 150.
I’m guessing he would be asked to melt down all the way to 147 to take the fight, just like Oscar De La Hoya had to melt down to fight Pacquiao at 147. De La Hoya ended up too weak to fight, and the rest was history.
Pacquiao won an easy fight that made him look great and De La Hoya look terrible. I don’t think Golovkin would be willing to risk putting himself in the hospital by draining down too much weight and ending up physically sick from dehydrating himself to get down to unnatural weight.
I don’t see Golokin ever getting a fight against Mayweather or Pacquiao, because the fights don’t make business sense. First off, Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum would likely never let Pacquiao fight a slugger like Golovkin because the risk would be too high. If Golovkin were to knock Pacquiao clean out, he could potentially ruin the gravy train.
If Pacquiao were to get knocked out real bad by Golokvin, there would be a risk that Pacquiao’s chin would be compromised. I don’t think Arum would want to see Pacquiao potentially go downhill from then on with him getting knocked out left and right by any Top Rank stable fighter that Arum matches him up against. But the biggest reason why Golovkin won’t get fights against either guy is because he just doesn’t have the name value in the U.S.
They want to face opposition that is PPV stars or close to it and Golovkin isn’t at the level of a PPV fighter yet. To be honest, Golovkin may never reach that level. He lacks the charisma that Mayweather has, and he doesn’t have a huge following like Pacquiao has with his built in fan base.
Mayweather would likely agree to fight Golovkin at 154, but not 160, and he wouldn’t ask for a catch-weight handicap. As long as Golovkin could get down to 154, it would be a fight that could be possible.
Golovkin really is in no position to be talking about fighting anyone right now because he has a fight coming up on May 16th against a very good fighter in Willie Monroe (19-1, 6 KOs) at the Forum in Inglewood, California. I give Monroe a very good chance of out-boxing Golovkin in this fight with his hand speed and movement.
1-He has called out Pacquiao several times
2-He was willing to fight Ward when Ward was not active, soon as Ward was active the talking stopped
3-He has built a career off of beating c class fighters and empty threats of beating anyone from 154-168
larry do your research. ggg tried to fight ward in late 2012 early 2013. ward fought dawson in late 2012 so how the f-uck was he inactive? you simply don't care about facts. i know its easier to make up things that way you can defend the guys you like 100 percent of the time but reality is a little different than what your brain conjures up.
Thats a BOLD claim, Hendrix claimed to drop him via a bodyshot and then he got beat the fucck up by GGG he said. He even said GGG punched harder than Miranda.
Just want to say,funniest pic of the year Lmfaoooooo
a b-side wanting to fight an a-side in 15 months and with a 50-50 split is now considered wanting the fight? wouldn't that get laughed at if it was anyone else in boxing? imagine a b-side saying that to floyd...oh wait its different because...i hate ggg
1-He has called out Pacquiao several times
2-He was willing to fight Ward when Ward was not active, soon as Ward was active the talking stopped
3-He has built a career off of beating c class fighters and empty threats of beating anyone from 154-168
1-prove it. Find an article.
2-wrong. He wanted to fight a star, lineal champ in his own weight class instead of waiting an undetermined amount of time to fight an unpopular fighter one or two weight classes above him. Only people who hate Golovkin think it's somehow a duck. They're usually also the same fools who think he's ducking canelo at 155. Golovkin should fight a 175 Ward or drain himself for canelo, right? Anything to get him beat.
3-blah blah, c class fighters. Get your crap out of here. Who are these A class fighters that want to fight him?
I'm still waiting for names. The closest we've gotten was Ward with "50/50 after a few tune ups" or Lara, aka "call my manager and pay me $3m, a sum you haven't yet earned yourself".
You guys will say anything to get a fighter beat. The most recent trend of bullsh1t is that Golovkin is on PEDs. Jump on that bs train too.
1-He has called out Pacquiao several times
2-He was willing to fight Ward when Ward was not active, soon as Ward was active the talking stopped
3-He has built a career off of beating c class fighters and empty threats of beating anyone from 154-168
Larry dropping fact bombs on these cats for days now. Brutal.
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New day, same uneducated drivel.
Golovkin never called out Pac.
He's not bigger than canelo.
He has been out weighted in at least 8/10 last fights, most likely 9/10 since Murray weight is unknown but he moved up after the fight.
He was willing to fight Ward at 168 at the time when Ward wasn't. When Ward was ready, his team rightfully did not accept 50/50 a year down the line.
Golovkin said that Ward is dead to him and refuses to speak about him, while Ward still keeps bringing him up every other month.
And for everyone who thinks Golovkins team sucks, get a clue. How many other boxers rebuilt a career after 30 so successfully?
1-He has called out Pacquiao several times
2-He was willing to fight Ward when Ward was not active, soon as Ward was active the talking stopped
3-He has built a career off of beating c class fighters and empty threats of beating anyone from 154-168
New day, same uneducated drivel.
Golovkin never called out Pac.
He's not bigger than canelo.
He has been out weighted in at least 8/10 last fights, most likely 9/10 since Murray weight is unknown but he moved up after the fight.
He was willing to fight Ward at 168 at the time when Ward wasn't. When Ward was ready, his team rightfully did not accept 50/50 a year down the line.
Golovkin said that Ward is dead to him and refuses to speak about him, while Ward still keeps bringing him up every other month.
And for everyone who thinks Golovkins team sucks, get a clue. How many other boxers rebuilt a career after 30 so successfully?
Team GGG still talks about Ward and that twat Sanchez taunts him at every chance. Ward never brings up Golovkin unless an interviewer bugs him about it, and half the time he says he is tired of giving him attention.
GGG barked like a little dog and tucked tail and ran as soon as Ward was legally able to fight him. You guys can spin it all you want but everyone who is not a devoted GGG fan sees it pretty plainly. Throwing out the word "uneducated" is ironic because you're either unaware or blatantly lying.
K2 is not about taking chances with GGG.
They know something his fans don't.
GGG scored a 2nd round KO over an Argentine..this fight is no longer on his record and no longer on Youtube.
Why??
GGG was dropped hard (on his face...a.ss in the air) in the first round and came back to stop the guy the next round.
He's been down as a pro....and Tyrell Hendrix stopped him in the gym.
Thats a BOLD claim, Hendrix claimed to drop him via a bodyshot and then he got beat the fucck up by GGG he said. He even said GGG punched harder than Miranda.
New day, same uneducated drivel.
Golovkin never called out Pac.
He's not bigger than canelo.
He has been out weighted in at least 8/10 last fights, most likely 9/10 since Murray weight is unknown but he moved up after the fight.
He was willing to fight Ward at 168 at the time when Ward wasn't. When Ward was ready, his team rightfully did not accept 50/50 a year down the line.
Golovkin said that Ward is dead to him and refuses to speak about him, while Ward still keeps bringing him up every other month.
And for everyone who thinks Golovkins team sucks, get a clue. How many other boxers rebuilt a career after 30 so successfully?
You answered your own question, because Golovkin called him out. Ward didn't go looking for the smaller guy or do anything uncool in that whole exchange. This really isn't hard to figure out.
Thank you...GGG's team is the one talking all this damn noise and hasnt backed up any of it
What?? GGG's team talked so much sh1t and Ward called them out on it and then all we got were excuses??? Answer why GGG's team will fight Chavez jr, Ramirez at 168 and even Froch at 172..BUT NOT WARD AT 168?? Why was GGG begging to fight Manny and Mayweather at 154 but not Canelo at 155? His team is doing the damage not anyone else.all i hear is talk and 0 action to back up the claims being made
You answered your own question, because Golovkin called him out. Ward didn't go looking for the smaller guy or do anything uncool in that whole exchange. This really isn't hard to figure out.