Win or Lose next fight, Lomachenko has unfinished business with Salido. At 130 Salido is stronger and not weight drained. I'd favor Salido by KO in a rematch. Thoughts? I just hope Lomachenko is not a coward and face the best at 130 like Salido,Vargas,Walters.
Lemme bump this thread and see if we can get an answer to my question:
So I thought everyone wants come-forward fighters, but they are placed into duckable category now. I see.
Can anybody explain why Lomachenko would duck Salido 2? What does this TS mean?
Is this like Floyd ducking the Hoya rematch? What exactly am I missing? Why would anyone duck come-forward fighters? This is boxing not MMA.
Walters is definitely more physical, are you kidding me? And Cuellar at 126.
Well guess what? Walters didn't accept the fight, genius.
Martinez is more rough than Walters, so if Walters is a physical fighter, which I think he is, then Martinez is also a physical fighter. Or wtf is he then? Martinez has to rough up his opponents and come forward to try and win his fights.
Martinez gets on top of his opponents more than Walters does.
Then who is a physical fighter at 126 and 130 besides Salido? If you don't consider Martinez a physical then Walters sure isn't. Walters is more technical than Martinez. Martinez has to rely on taking it to his opponent. Even if you do think Walters is a physical fighter, Walters is the one that didn't want to take the Loma fight, so you can't blame that one on Vasyl.
Martinez likes to bring it, I think he's a physical fighter. Doesn't bring the pressure or like to get really rough like Salido, but then again who does?
Or what exactly do you mean by physical fighter? You have to be more specific here.
Walters is definitely more physical, are you kidding me? And Cuellar at 126.
Good post. But if you saw the Salido vargas fight at the end Kellerman asked salido if he wants to rematch loma. And salido said he did want to. But team loma said they didn't want to fight him because at the moment he doesn't have a belt
That wasn't Loma's comment though, it was his managers. Managers and Promoters say dumb things all of the time and people think it's the fighters saying whatever it was.
People are taking it too seriously.
Loma was rooting for Salido so they could rematch.
No it's not. Vargas-Salido sold out stub hub and will probably be the 2nd highest watched fight on HBO this year. More people would look forward to seeing Salido-Vargas again than either one fighting Lomanchenko. The Salido fight is the bigger fight for Lomanchenko because it's avenging a loss. Lomanchenko is fighting a Puerto Rican in NYC on the Puerto Rican day weekend with Verdejo on the undercard. And it's on Boxing After Dark.
I'm down with a rematch either way. It will crown the real champ at 130.
No way lomachenko ducks..
Salido is older and even more vulnerable, lomachenko is now more experienced and really hitting his stride as a pro..
I can see lomachenko getting the nod over salido in a close fight, and it setups a rubber match between the 2...
Salido did not throw anywhere near the amount of low blows in the Vargas fight that he did in the Loma fight. And Salido also didn't lead with his head against Vargas.
Salido knew they he was going to be allowed to get away with everything in that fight.
Just like Loma's excessive clinching, which he definitely did and should have been warned, Salido should of had two or three points taken off for his excessive low-blows and headbutt; which actually cause damage. He threw more low-blows and headbutts than in his other fights.
Funny how you mention Postol and Wlad, but not other fighters.
Isn't Martinez a physical fighter?
Rigondeaux didn't want it. No need to lie to make yourself feel better.
Excuse after Excuse. Even though Rigo was the one that started talking all of that trash. As soon as Loma replied it was nothing but excuse after excuse.
You guys pay too much attention to what Klimas said. He's tends to say dumb things that make his fighters look bad. But doesn't every manager and promoter say dumb things that make their fighters look bad?
The belt comment has never come out of Loma's mouth.
He has said that he wants to unify, but didn't say that he will only fight fighters with belts.
That was Klimas and he was probably just pissed off with the Walters situation, which resulted in him saying that dumb comment. Sometimes frustration can get the best of you. Klimas seems to be one of those people that lets frustration get the best of him at times.
Good post. But if you saw the Salido vargas fight at the end Kellerman asked salido if he wants to rematch loma. And salido said he did want to. But team loma said they didn't want to fight him because at the moment he doesn't have a belt
Duck? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Salido is a cheating punching bag. Loma doesn't need Salido anymore. There are bigger and better fights out there where he will make more money.
"Lol no matter what people are going to cry about it. Look at vargas who fought salido and got low blow but he took it like a man. Then you got loma fans crying about the low blow . While conviniently forgoting thst loma was clinching like as if he was Postol or Wlad"
Salido threw low blows strategically against Loma. He only had a few moments against Vargas. And no, Vargas would not have taken it like "a man" Salido would have points deducted. It's cheating, and no man would ever let a guy hit him in the balls repetitively
But the Salido rematch is the bigger fight. Like I said. For some people they prefer the trinkets over the bigger/better fight
For either guy, fighting loma is the bigger fight. I'm saying vargas earned the bigger fights by winning...he shouldn't be faulted for that.
First off, no Martinez is not that physical. Secondly, he is about 4 years removed from his best but still a decent fighter.
Then who is a physical fighter at 126 and 130 besides Salido? If you don't consider Martinez a physical then Walters sure isn't. Walters is more technical than Martinez. Martinez has to rely on taking it to his opponent. Even if you do think Walters is a physical fighter, Walters is the one that didn't want to take the Loma fight, so you can't blame that one on Vasyl.
Martinez likes to bring it, I think he's a physical fighter. Doesn't bring the pressure or like to get really rough like Salido, but then again who does?
Or what exactly do you mean by physical fighter? You have to be more specific here.
Salido did not throw anywhere near the amount of low blows in the Vargas fight that he did in the Loma fight. And Salido also didn't lead with his head against Vargas.
Salido knew they he was going to be allowed to get away with everything in that fight.
Just like Loma's excessive clinching, which he definitely did and should have been warned, Salido should of had two or three points taken off for his excessive low-blows and headbutt; which actually cause damage. He threw more low-blows and headbutts than in his other fights.
Funny how you mention Postol and Wlad, but not other fighters.
Isn't Martinez a physical fighter?
Rigondeaux didn't want it. No need to lie to make yourself feel better.
Excuse after Excuse. Even though Rigo was the one that started talking all of that trash. As soon as Loma replied it was nothing but excuse after excuse.
You guys pay too much attention to what Klimas said. He's tends to say dumb things that make his fighters look bad. But doesn't every manager and promoter say dumb things that make their fighters look bad?
The belt comment has never come out of Loma's mouth.
He has said that he wants to unify, but didn't say that he will only fight fighters with belts.
That was Klimas and he was probably just pissed off with the Walters situation, which resulted in him saying that dumb comment. Sometimes frustration can get the best of you. Klimas seems to be one of those people that lets frustration get the best of him at times.
First off, no Martinez is not that physical. Secondly, he is about 4 years removed from his best but still a decent fighter.
I've complained a lot about Salido yesterday, I just had to make some things be known.
Enough complaining though. I really want to see the rematch. Lomachenko has to get past Martinez first, so he can't overlook this fight.
Martinez is a tougher opponent than what people give him credit for. He always gives his opponents a tough time.
He definitely didn't deserve the Salido rematch. The fight started off competitive, but Salido took over from the middle rounds to the end of the fight. People say that Martinez has gotten several gifts, which I don't see. The only fight he didn't deserve was the Salido rematch and you can say the Burgos fight. The Burgos fight was competitive to a certain extent though. It wasn't like Burgos 12-0'd Martinez. Martinez brought it. I had Burgos winning a 7-5 or 8-4 type of fight, more competitive than what people say it was.
Martinez also fought Burns to a really close fight; had the fight taken place in PR or the US I wouldn't be surprised if Martinez has gotten the decision.
Lomachenko should be careful, because he is fighting a PR in New York in the weekend of the PR day parade after all.
Lol no matter what people are going to cry about it. Look at vargas who fought salido and got low blow but he took it like a man. Then you got loma fans crying about the low blow . While conviniently forgoting thst loma was clinching like as if he was Postol or Wlad
Salido did not throw anywhere near the amount of low blows in the Vargas fight that he did in the Loma fight. And Salido also didn't lead with his head against Vargas.
Salido knew they he was going to be allowed to get away with everything in that fight.
Just like Loma's excessive clinching, which he definitely did and should have been warned, Salido should of had two or three points taken off for his excessive low-blows and headbutt; which actually cause damage. He threw more low-blows and headbutts than in his other fights.
Funny how you mention Postol and Wlad, but not other fighters.
I think he will.
Since that loss, Lomas team have kept him away from physical fighters.
Isn't Martinez a physical fighter?
yes he will!!!like he ducks rigoddeaux.
Rigondeaux didn't want it. No need to lie to make yourself feel better.
Excuse after Excuse. Even though Rigo was the one that started talking all of that trash. As soon as Loma replied it was nothing but excuse after excuse.
How many times has klimas said they won't fight anyone if they don't have a belt. Salido even said in the post fight interview that Loma doesn't want to fight him if he doesn't have a belt.
You guys pay too much attention to what Klimas said. He's tends to say dumb things that make his fighters look bad. But doesn't every manager and promoter say dumb things that make their fighters look bad?
The belt comment has never come out of Loma's mouth.
He has said that he wants to unify, but didn't say that he will only fight fighters with belts.
That was Klimas and he was probably just pissed off with the Walters situation, which resulted in him saying that dumb comment. Sometimes frustration can get the best of you. Klimas seems to be one of those people that lets frustration get the best of him at times.
Most of the posters are wierdo's on this forum. Its a mood killer just knowing all the illogical responses that come with trying to have a decent conversation . Loma already said he wants Salido after his next fight
I'm still waiting for the answer. I'm not a fan of both.
Why would a 28 year old boxing technician with amateur background duck a 35 year old come-forward fighter?
Because his promoter is making moves , HBO was bring up Loma vs Salido becuase they can see what Top Rank is doing Javier Fortuna fighting in a Top Rank card in China this month is a set up to Javier Fortuna vs Lomachenko unification on PBC tv
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