The king of swing, Tyson Fury (25-0, 18KOs), is at it again ... this time he's threatening to "rape" heavyweight champ Deontay Wilder (36-0, 35KOs0 if the two ever step in the ring.
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So because Cunningham fought a portion of his career in the cruiserweight division that forever makes him a cruiserweight, even though he had a solid twenty pounds of lean muscle on Cooper at the time he fought Fury? While Cooper, a man who could probably have made light heavyweight using today's methods, gets to be called a heavyweight simply because a division didn't then exist which might more comfortably have suited him?
I'm sorry, but that whole argument sounds weak as fcuk to me.
First off, Cunningham was a heavyweight when he fought Fury as he weighed in above the 200lbs limit. Nothing more to be said there. Secondly, even if you do want to argue that he was nothing but a 'blown up cruiserweight' then that invalidates your initial argument, which was, I presume, to ridicule Fury for having been dropped by a much smaller man, since even at Cruiser Cunningham was a significantly larger fighter than Cooper ever was. Thirdly, if you want to argue that Cunningham can never be anything other than a cruiserweight because he fought there (and therefore, presumably, sucks) then you have to accept the fact that Joe Louis must be one of the worst heavyweights of all time since, not only was he dropped and hurt by former lightweights and welterweights, he was beaten by them too! What a loser!
Or you can just accept that neither Ali nor Fury ever got dropped by cruiserweights and be done with it.
We have been done talking about this.Not that serious for a lecture. RIP Ali. Have a blessed day
Even and old, shot Wlad is 1000x better then Fury!
Wlad had personal issues last time, which made him hesitant to throw a punch. It will not happen this time. Trust me :) Fury is getting brutalized.
I can't tell whether you're joking or whether you really believe that shit.
Lots of fighters have personal issues going into the ring, but if they're anyone worth their salt, they should be able to get on with the job at hand once the bell rings. Certainly a long running professional of Wlad's calibre could have just autopiloted his way to victory if he was so much better than Fury.
If Wlad wins the rematch it'll be because Fury underestimates him, not because his home life is hunky dory.
My point is Cooper first and last fight was against a Heavyweight in the Heavyweight division..you know exactly what I'm saying when you look at Cooper bio it says HEAVYWeight...so as I stated Ali never got dropped by a cruiserweight... THATS FACT.... That division wasn't even around... Pointless debate anyway
So because Cunningham fought a portion of his career in the cruiserweight division that forever makes him a cruiserweight, even though he had a solid twenty pounds of lean muscle on Cooper at the time he fought Fury? While Cooper, a man who could probably have made light heavyweight using today's methods, gets to be called a heavyweight simply because a division didn't then exist which might more comfortably have suited him?
I'm sorry, but that whole argument sounds weak as fcuk to me.
First off, Cunningham was a heavyweight when he fought Fury as he weighed in above the 200lbs limit. Nothing more to be said there. Secondly, even if you do want to argue that he was nothing but a 'blown up cruiserweight' then that invalidates your initial argument, which was, I presume, to ridicule Fury for having been dropped by a much smaller man, since even at Cruiser Cunningham was a significantly larger fighter than Cooper ever was. Thirdly, if you want to argue that Cunningham can never be anything other than a cruiserweight because he fought there (and therefore, presumably, sucks) then you have to accept the fact that Joe Louis must be one of the worst heavyweights of all time since, not only was he dropped and hurt by former lightweights and welterweights, he was beaten by them too! What a loser!
Or you can just accept that neither Ali nor Fury ever got dropped by cruiserweights and be done with it.
have you watched wladimir train?
he looks like an old man. i'm picking fury to do the same thing he did last time.
Even and old, shot Wlad is 1000x better then Fury!
Wlad had personal issues last time, which made him hesitant to throw a punch. It will not happen this time. Trust me :) Fury is getting brutalized.
My point is Cooper first and last fight was against a Heavyweight in the Heavyweight division..you know exactly what I'm saying when you look at Cooper bio it says HEAVYWeight...so as I stated Ali never got dropped by a cruiserweight... THATS FACT.... That division wasn't even around... Pointless debate anyway
It's pointless because it's being argued on technicalities.
Cooper was a heavyweight because the cruiserweight division didn't exist at the time Ali fought him. Cunningham was a heavyweight because he weighed in above the cruiserweight limit when he fought Fury.
There's nothing more to be said there, really.
My point is Cooper first and last fight was against a Heavyweight in the Heavyweight division..you know exactly what I'm saying when you look at Cooper bio it says HEAVYWeight...so as I stated Ali never got dropped by a cruiserweight... THATS FACT.... That division wasn't even around... Pointless debate anyway
So a fighter who starts their career at one weight is forever tied to that weight no matter what? If that's the case you must think Joe Louis really sucks ass since, not only was he dropped by guys who were former lightweights and welterweights, he was beaten by them as well.
Cunningham was a heavyweight when he fought Fury for the simple fact that he weighed in above the cruiserweight limit for their fight. There's nothing more to be said there, really.
Henry Cooper was a heavyweight.No matter how you spin it..
Only because the cruiserweight division didn't exist back then. Cooper was about 20 lbs under the CW limit against Clay.
Fury has never been dropped by a cruiserweight, btw.
Naw don't throw Ali in this he would never make comments about putting his private in another man.. You should be banned for even mentioning this clown with Ali. Ali didn't get dropped by cruiserweightsOh Yes he did........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN9Qi_yyUbo
So was Cunningham at the time he fought Fury so I'm not exactly sure what your point is.
My point is Cooper first and last fight was against a Heavyweight in the Heavyweight division..you know exactly what I'm saying when you look at Cooper bio it says HEAVYWeight...so as I stated Ali never got dropped by a cruiserweight... THATS FACT.... That division wasn't even around... Pointless debate anyway
I mean, Ali did. Henry Cooper weighed 185 lbs when he dropped Ali...
Don't matter what he weighed if I weigh 140lbs and decide to fight at welterweight then I'm a welterweight.. Y'all sound like Oscar and Canelo
Henry Cooper weighed 185 pounds you absolute ****ing clown HAHAHA!!!
Whoa why you so excited... Floyd weighed 150lbs but y'all still called him a middleweight and said he should fight Jr middleweights..no matter how technical you nerds get fact remains Henry Cooper fought in the Heavyweight division therefore he's a heavyweight... weirdo...
Ali, then known as Cassius Clay, got dropped and almost stopped by Henry Cooper, just before he won the title from Liston.
Nobody in his whole career hurt Ali as bad as Cooper did, and Henry could easily have made LHW if he'd wanted. He was only fighting at HW because the purses were so much bigger.
Henry Cooper was a heavyweight.No matter how you spin it..
Yeah I suspect he comes crashing back to earth. The hype on these boards as if he's some master boxer and mind gamer is absurd. I'm not fully convinced following that horror of a fight against Wladimir.
dude is an out of shape turd who was at the right place at the right time....he was in with a great fighter who can no longer pull the trigger...he gets in there with all that wasted movement aginst someone trying to take his head off like wilder or ortiz and its over. Wlad has the power and speed, he just cant pull the trigger at the right time.
Naw don't throw Ali in this he would never make comments about putting his private in another man.. You should be banned for even mentioning this clown with Ali. Ali didn't get dropped by cruiserweights
Ali, then known as Cassius Clay, got dropped and almost stopped by Henry Cooper, just before he won the title from Liston.
Nobody in his whole career hurt Ali as bad as Cooper did, and Henry could easily have made LHW if he'd wanted. He was only fighting at HW because the purses were so much bigger.
On some real ****: One of my friends is from England and her best friend over there "messed around" with Tyson Fury for a little bit, a while back, I showed her this article and she then showed her friend who messed with Fury, and she told her that he has a massive dick.
Good for him, and he may pretend he will split Wilder and Joshua's anus with his long dick (he won't), but come July, this big lumbering stiff is getting knocked the fk OUT.
Easy work Wlad. The laser beam of a straight right is going to split Fury's face in half.
have you watched wladimir train?
he looks like an old man. i'm picking fury to do the same thing he did last time.
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