The list is long and thankfully now VADA testing is being done more often.Its a pity Floyd, Hopkins and JMM never did VADA, it really hurts their reputations. Thankfully the WBC has stepped up, and even then it's not enough.
Every title fight should have VADA and the top 20 in each organization should go through all year long VADA testing. Who do you think will be caught next?
you mean the eternal MW hagler whose big fights were against LW WW and JM's?
Hearns and Leonard more than held their own at middleweight. But sure if you want to pretend a guy like Broner is above him be my guess. I'm done arguing with you. You are either a troll or simpleminded and i don't waste my time with either of those.
The list is long and thankfully now VADA testing is being done more often.Its a pity Floyd, Hopkins and JMM never did VADA, it really hurts their reputations. Thankfully the WBC has stepped up, and even then it's not enough.
Every title fight should have VADA and the top 20 in each organization should go through all year long VADA testing. Who do you think will be caught next?
VADA is the gold standard when it comes to testing. They're the only ones busting fighters unlike their main competitor in the boxing.
USADA break their own rules, destoy samples, allow TUE after the fact and are just plain corrupt. Its a very simple question you have to ask yourself... why do fighters get caught by VADA but not by USADA?
because you need big money like froid and haymon got to buy off VADA
Lance did USADA outdated testing, VADA is the most up to date and thorough testing available
if VADA was that good it would not be allowed. if voting really changed things it would not be allowed. when 100's of millions are involved everything is for sale and any result can be bought. wake up put down Cinderella book
You better go check Vada and USADA use the same 2 WADA accredited labs for all testing , your thread is mute and false .
USADA break their own rules, destoy samples, allow TUE after the fact and are just plain corrupt. Its a very simple question you have to ask yourself... why do fighters get caught by VADA but not by USADA?
yea yea yea and lance Armstrong pissed on VADA for 15 years. tests can be bought by big money like haymon and froid had to get any result you want
Lance did USADA outdated testing, VADA is the most up to date and thorough testing available
And he got schooled like the robotic boxer he was. Weight classes don't make a fighter, they just prove how much a fighterr can drain. Broner is a multiple division champion, but he was nothing compared to a guy like Hagler.
you mean the eternal MW hagler whose big fights were against LW WW and JM's?
Pavlik was a man. He went up TEN pounds to fight the best fighter at that time. Gg won't go up more than 4 pounds .
And he got schooled like the robotic boxer he was. Weight classes don't make a fighter, they just prove how much a fighterr can drain. Broner is a multiple division champion, but he was nothing compared to a guy like Hagler.
no no the best part was that Pac was afraid of needles in giving blood! pissing in a cup was sufficient for #48..
"there's no doubt in my mind that Pac was on stuff..." - Victor Conte
yea and holyfield mosley Peterson roy jones etc were clean?
Its a pitty pavlik the alcoholic couldnt stay sober so ggg could make him a goodboy. Pavlik could take all the peds in the world and he still wouldnt learn how to box. The guy couldnt even double the jab.
the heart and courage Pavlik showed against taylor will be remembered for 100 years and more
Jesse Vargas refused Vada testing, even when Sadam Ali offered to pay for it, its the most stringent form of testing
yea yea yea and lance Armstrong pissed on VADA for 15 years. tests can be bought by big money like haymon and froid had to get any result you want
Pavlik went up 10 lb to fight the former middleweight kingpin. Pavlik was also 6'1+ with lots of room to add on to his frame and had been complaining about his ability to make 160.
Whats this have to do with Vada?
I don't get what people obsession with moving up is.
You know why guys move up? Because they starve themselves and boil down to weights they should never have been fighting at in the first place. They can get away with it when they are young, then as they get older they cant do it anymore.
Name me fighters that have moved up after 34 years old?
Floyd didn't. He maxxed out 154 at 29.
The only two guys that really moved up big and worked on moving up way above their natural weight were Roy Jones, and Pacquiao. Everyone else just drifted up to their natural weight.
Floyd. Oscar, Broner, now Ward is drifting up to his natural weight... you know he won his olympic medal at 178lb...
Yet here is GGG who is weighing in on fight night the same as Super Welterweights but he has to move up when he hasn't even accomplished what he wants to in the division yet?
Pavlik had trouble making 160 really? That's why after the Hopkins fight he went back to 160
I think everything after 135 was out of choice rather than necessity, I think he could have stayed at 135 for a while, he looked fantastic there.
Really , a guy that is 152 pound with 6% body fat wouldnt be struggling to make 135 only 6mths earlier would he .
Nov. 28, 2008
The size difference is what everyone is talking about. Manny is mature. He’s a much bigger person than he used to be. He’s not that skinny, 112-pound kid anymore. He weighs 152 pounds right now . His body fat is six percent. He’s coming down to 147, not going up. He’s coming down, just like Oscar is. The biggest thing is, when someone goes up a weight class and fights and then comes back down to his original weight class, he usually has bad results. You see it in history. It happened to Roy Jones . Oscar will suffer to make 147; and I think he’ll be weaker as a result. I don’t think the bigger guy will be the stronger guy on Dec. 6. He’ll be taller, maybe a little heavier, but not stronger. Manny will be the bigger puncher, the faster puncher, the busier guy. Activity is my biggest thing. And Manny is better prepared for that. We fought four times this year. Oscar hasn’t fought four times in four years. I think speed and activity wins this fight, not size.
Pacquiao was weighing in the mid 140s at 130 he was forced to move up.
I think everything after 135 was out of choice rather than necessity, I think he could have stayed at 135 for a while, he looked fantastic there.
Pavlik was a man. He went up TEN pounds to fight the best fighter at that time. Gg won't go up more than 4 pounds .
Pavlik went up 10 lb to fight the former middleweight kingpin. Pavlik was also 6'1+ with lots of room to add on to his frame and had been complaining about his ability to make 160.
Whats this have to do with Vada?
I don't get what people obsession with moving up is.
You know why guys move up? Because they starve themselves and boil down to weights they should never have been fighting at in the first place. They can get away with it when they are young, then as they get older they cant do it anymore.
Name me fighters that have moved up after 34 years old?
Floyd didn't. He maxxed out 154 at 29.
The only two guys that really moved up big and worked on moving up way above their natural weight were Roy Jones, and Pacquiao. Everyone else just drifted up to their natural weight.
Floyd. Oscar, Broner, now Ward is drifting up to his natural weight... you know he won his olympic medal at 178lb...
Yet here is GGG who is weighing in on fight night the same as Super Welterweights but he has to move up when he hasn't even accomplished what he wants to in the division yet?
No it isnt. There is a reason usada catches nobody and costs a lot more. Usada doesnt catch ppl and when they do they get a tue.
You better go check Vada and USADA use the same 2 WADA accredited labs for all testing , your thread is mute and false .