Bradley/his TR contract

Top Rank has done right by Bradley; they've got him the fights they said they would and they've made him a very rich man. He has absolutely no incentive to leave whatsoever.

Despite not having a huge fanbase, Bradley has earned more with TR than literally every other fighter with Haymon except Floyd and Khan. Why would he ever want to leave? This thread is beyond dumb and the OP should be euthanized for irredeemable stupidity, lol

Nah in Tim's case specifically I think he made out like a bandit with TR. I was more commenting on TR's & other promoters sketchy business practice of baiting & switching paydays for a specific guy if you sign an extension vs not, giving you subpar opponents if you don't sign an extension & other things like that that shouldn't be allowed if the sport was cleaner. There should be a good faith effort to get a fighters the best options available while he's signed with you & then once the contract is up based on the promoters success or failure on your behalf you re-sign with him or not. Obviously with all the potential choices out there & various relationships that can be hot or cold its hard to say a fight is or isn't possible at any given time to judge a good faith effort. For that reason I don't think there should be extensions at all. You get a fighter for x (3yrs?, 4yrs?) period of time & regardless of him winning a title or a promoter dangling a carrot contracts shouldn't be renewed without a period, however short, of free agency. i agree with some of what you said but fighters need to sign long term deals or why would a promoter invest in them only for them to fight on other promoters cards? a promoter loses money as they build a fighter up and try to get them to the hbo/sho level where they make big purses. fighters like herring, spence, valdez, verdejo have had lots of money invested in them and if guys like valdez or verdejo could walk now why would top rank have invested so much money in them? same with spence and herring. Haymon has put a bunch of money into them and if they were free to work with a different promoter instead of haymon he would be out all that money

either way, TR have made him a millionaire and a win over JMM has marked him as one of the best of his generation, adding to wins over future or past title holders in Provo and Vargas. Bradley's legacy is secure. It could get better though, especially with wins over Khan, Cotto, TC...none of which requires a haymon specific contract. Just sayin. Lol like he said, he joined tr for the PAC fight nothing to do with his 140 run. He signed an extension after the jmm fight I think. Point is he would have had a much better legacy if he left after the jmm fight. He stayed for the check

Bradley moved up to WW (never mind about Casamayor) and signed with TR after he was done with Gary Shaw at LWW. Just sayin'. either way, TR have made him a millionaire and a win over JMM has marked him as one of the best of his generation, adding to wins over future or past title holders in Provo and Vargas. Bradley's legacy is secure. It could get better though, especially with wins over Khan, Cotto, TC...none of which requires a haymon specific contract. Just sayin.

He just signed an extension i believe

Call me when a Haymon top fighter fights 4 huge fights in a row.

Last I heard, Cotto and TR ended their relations on an extremely sour note. Khan, Haymon. Alvarez... yea, actually I can see that. Defending his lineal MW title at 155 against a blown-up LWW. :laff: actually that article on this site a couple days ago said the haymon top rank lawsuit is dropped and they are going to start working together so he doesn't need to sign with haymon to get garcia or guerrero or khan eetc

Yea he signed a contract extension to get the last Manny fight. Signing an extension is par for the course with TR so he was either gonna have to sign an extension to get Manny a third time or he woulda been fighting some random guy for less money. yeah i saw the press conference video and he said top rank is the best promoter out there and he said don't even worry about calling him because he already resigned and wants to finish his career there. I don't blame him. Those 2mil minimums for non ppv fights are pretty sweet. He made over 19mil dollars alone from just the 3 pacquiao fights and marquez.

Laughable thread. As if Haymon's top fighters fight each other often. Had Bradley joined Haymon his resume would have been full of cab drivers and semi retired fighters. He would have had Diaz, Malignaggi, Bundu, Karass, Judah, Collazo, Kamegai.

He lost 3 of those 4 meaningful fights lol. Tr helped his bank account but not his legacyBradley became the best LWW on the planet with TR, best Pacquiao (sorta lol) lost in subsequent rematches as did Morales, Marquez and Barrera and put on great fights against Provo and Chaves and comprehensively outboxed JMM and Vargas. That's a damn good legacy right there. What should he have done? Not fought the best opposition, which is what Thurman and Gracia have been doing for years now? Bradley moved up to WW (never mind about Casamayor) and signed with TR after he was done with Gary Shaw at LWW. Just sayin'.

He lost 3 of those 4 meaningful fights lol. Tr helped his bank account but not his legacy Bradley became the best LWW on the planet with TR, best Pacquiao (sorta lol) lost in subsequent rematches as did Morales, Marquez and Barrera and put on great fights against Provo and Chaves and comprehensively outboxed JMM and Vargas. That's a damn good legacy right there. What should he have done? Not fought the best opposition, which is what Thurman and Gracia have been doing for years now?

Add the winner of Postol vs Crawford too. Bradley is fine with top rank but i wouldn't mind him if he goes to haymon stable to fight guys like Thurman, Danny, and Porter Forgot about TC. All these guys will be more accomplished than Porter and Thurman, if they aren't already.

Dammit. So no Thurman, Porter, Garcia, Khan, Spence, Guerrero... I guess the most I can hope for is Brook. There's no-one in the TR stable that'll earn him a big payday. The only one of those guys you named that would bring Tim the $ that he is used to is Garcia and Tims not the kinda guy Garcia is looking to fight. I am sure Thurman would price himself out, Porter, Spence, and Guerrero would probably take the fight but their not in Bradleys radar and benefit him in no way at this point of his career. Honestly Bradley is pretty much a Hall of famer, a title at 154 would guarantee his induction, I am sure he'd take a lil over a million to grab a title at 154 than take 2 to fight a PBC fighter thatll get him nowhere. If Liam Smith wins at 154, thatd be a credible/winnable fight for Tim and its a WBO match-up so I am sure Arum could work that out.

he has earned millions with TR and had bigger, more meaningful fights than any haymon welter so na, going with haymon does jack all for his career He lost 3 of those 4 meaningful fights lol. Tr helped his bank account but not his legacy

i think bradley is still very capable of beating a lot and maybe even clean out the PBC fighters. bradley loss to manny so u shouldnt take too much away from that. look at what bradley did to regular guys like rios. people like to say its because thats rios, but who has done that to rios though? style makes fight. sure, bradley looked bad against a few fighters with a lesser name but thats because of the style match up. You make good points. It's just that people were so concerned about Bradleys pockets instead of daring him to be great like they dared Floyd, Pac, and Bradley could have been a ATG without beating a Floyd or Pac. Now he is more of a legend, maybe hall of famer Just not sure he wants any problems with the Spence's, Brooks and maybe even Khans of the world. Not at this age and stage of his career.

So I've probably made about 4-5 threads about Tim Bradley and his contract with Top Rank over the last 4-5 years, pretty much the same thing was said in this thread as those. "Bradley has done well for himself doe" "Arum treating him good doe" and etc For once I can agree that he should just stay with Top Rank, he's past his prime, 3 losses on his record, 1 draw to a C level fighter. There once was a time when I felt like Bradley could easily have cleaned out Haymon and Golden Boy stable, with the exception of Pac and Floyd he would have been unstoppable, but now time has truly passed. So I can say I no longer care to see him in the ring with non of the young lions over at PBC or such.

bradley can still fight cotto, canelo, khan and brook without ever leaving TR, so again, why would he do that? Edit: not to mention a Vargas rematch if Vargas beats Brook. Add the winner of Postol vs Crawford too. Bradley is fine with top rank but i wouldn't mind him if he goes to haymon stable to fight guys like Thurman, Danny, and Porter

I never heard anything like that and I'm sure HBO would be more than happy to invite Cotto back on and Bradley can easily go that route. It wasn't too many years ago (maybe 2) after Cotto left TR and went to Roc Nation. Arum and Cotto spat some real venom at each other, and it looked to be of the bridge-burning variety to me. And no matter how trashy a Bradley/Canelo fight sounds, I'm giving you examples of the best fighters you said he wouldn't be bale to fight. He can and make more money than fighting for Haymon against guys who have not proven their worth, inside or outside the ring. Granted on Alvarez, but I'm still disappointed that he won't be facing Thurman, Porter, Garcia, or Broner. And I highly doubt a Khan fight ever happens. Plus, there is Brook and Vargas. Brook, cool. Vargas, ehh. I thought that fight kinda sucked until the very end, and Vargas isn't anything special – a rematch certainly would not be an HBO WCB or PPV-worthy fight. Haymon has been holding onto Garcia/Porter/Thurman for years now, how many of those fights have actually happened? Well, it's close. If Garcia–Khan II happens this year, following Thurman–Porter, then in 2017 we'll likely see the king of that crop finally crowned. I'm not a Haymon cheerleader, I'm just saying how I see it. The very best WWs are in that stable.

Last I heard, Cotto and TR ended their relations on an extremely sour note. Khan, Haymon. Alvarez... yea, actually I can see that. Defending his lineal MW title at 155 against a blown-up LWW. :laff: I never heard anything like that and I'm sure HBO would be more than happy to invite Cotto back on and Bradley can easily go that route. TR is more than happy to work with anyone HBO is. The same goes for Khan (just on a HBO ppv). And no matter how trashy a Bradley/Canelo fight sounds, I'm giving you examples of the best fighters you said he wouldn't be bale to fight. He can and make more money than fighting for Haymon against guys who have not proven their worth, inside or outside the ring. Plus, there is Brook and Vargas. Haymon has been holding onto Garcia/Porter/Thurman for years now, how many of those fights have actually happened? Bradley has no benefit, legacy or finance, with Haymon.