I thought they were the best and caught all cheaters right?? so why all the excuses for Povetkin?
I remember USADA being slammed for allowing dirty fighters to fight, now posters are asking VADA to allow a dirty fighter to fight?
The thing is, there's some ignorance about how much power the drug testing agencies have. Here we see another case where the Commission is allowing a fight to go on despite a positive result. Before they blamed someone like USADA for allowing it, allowing the fight to happen, and for allowing testing to continue despite the positive. Today though, a blind eye has gone down with VADA.
Where is Hauser? Anyone see him? :)
there's a huge difference......NYSAC denounced USADA on the record for testing Morales' twice A and B sample before informing them. USADA was working like GBP were the boss. The moment the A sample is caught, the comission must be informed. VADA has informed the comissions at the appropiate time. The comission is the one with the power, thats why they deemed Berto dirty and cancelled the Ortiz rematch a few years ago, and now decided to let Vargas fight.
Yeah i know that but thats not what you wrote.
They do the same thing but you stuck your foot in your mouth by bringing out your inner testing agency fanboy
Its ok
I'll be honest. I haven't been following and don't know much about the Salido/Vargas situation.
Did vada catch one of them and them hide a dirty test then continue to test over and over until a negative test case up like In the case of morales?
The disappointment is big that this fight is not happening. Fans were looking forward to seeing Wilder fight a true top contender, and Povetkin gets popped one week before the fight! Given that, I can see people questioning VADA, because they're hoping against hope, that somehow something was missed or a mistake was made. Hell, some nuts are even blaming Wilder! Just shows how desperate people are to see this fight.
I think they go hand in hand what I said.... You have taken the point that VADA was seen as good etc. but since povetkin scandal they are bad. You have probably seen a Boxingscener say that taken it as the general consensus as you do. ANd now created a thread making it seem as though everyone is out to get VADA since they busted Povetkin.
Similarly though in a different context. You and it definently was you and your cronies. Put GGG into the PAC MAY debate after Pac had lost simply because again you saw some retards say dumb **** that mentioned GGG and Floyd. Thought hmmm this fits my agenda that everyone hates floyd ( YET everyone loves and appreciates what he did in the ring) and started robustly posting Pac fans are now GGG fans... that went on for a good half year and now for some reason pac and GGG are synonymous with on another. even though they have **** all to do with one another!
Fabricated truths passed as truth.
No,No,No..i aint saying VADA is bad at all, but others all the suddena re now questioning it....and i'll ignore the rest since it has nothing to do with this thread
They caught him and reported him. That's their job. They have no control over whether to let the fight go on or not. That's up to the commission.
Yeah i know that but thats not what you wrote.
They do the same thing but you stuck your foot in your mouth by bringing out your inner testing agency fanboy
Its ok
Arent they doing that with Vargas/Salido right now?
They caught him and reported him. That's their job. They have no control over whether to let the fight go on or not. That's up to the commission.
USADA/VADA etc don't have the power to stop fights going ahead. You've dragged the testing agency into a field they don't operate in, to try make a snide point.
You know this, yet you posted anyway. This is really why you posted: Larry likes Mayweather, Mayweather is associated with USADA, USADA is questioned by some, Larry doesn't like that, Larry goes on to post about VADA in an attempt to deflect the USADA criticism.
Playground type of stuff. Anyway, I bolded what you typed. Shouldn't we praising VADA for catching this cheat?
Yep, larry and his agenda :gay:
Differece is, vada got a positive hit and reported it. Usada kept retesting after a positive hit until the fighter gave a negative result.
I don't see anyone giving vada a pass here. What have they done wrong to give them a pass for? They were responsible for testing and as far as I'm concerned, they did their job by catching and reporting a positive test.
Arent they doing that with Vargas/Salido right now?
:oops::slap::spankme::owned2:
Differece is, vada got a positive hit and reported it. Usada kept retesting after a positive hit until the fighter gave a negative result.
Arent they doing that with Vargas/Salido right now?
That was the WBC's doing not VADA's. The WBC decided to let that fight go on
Yeah you're right, boxing IN GENERAL has a Corruption Problem from top to bottom but yet we expect fighters to be "Honest" even the Commission who allow certain things to just "GO" and not follow up on it or investigate it further
Most regular working folks cheat on their Job Drug Test but complain about fighters getting caught lol
Differece is, vada got a positive hit and reported it. Usada kept retesting after a positive hit until the fighter gave a negative result.
I don't see anyone giving vada a pass here. What have they done wrong to give them a pass for? They were responsible for testing and as far as I'm concerned, they did their job by catching and reporting a positive test.
The thing is, there's some ignorance about how much power the drug testing agencies have. Here we see another case where the Commission is allowing a fight to go on despite a positive result. Before they blamed someone like USADA for allowing it, allowing the fight to happen, and for allowing testing to continue despite the positive. Today though, a blind eye has gone down with VADA.
Where is Hauser? Anyone see him? :)
How much power do they have, they have the right to sanction and cancel fights? Its a testing agency, its up to the commish to cancel, which shouldnt even be an option, test positive, fight canceled.
That was the WBC's doing not VADA's. The WBC decided to let that fight go on
Incorrect. With the Vargas situation, the California Comimssion is allowing the fight to continue despite the positive result. And the excuse being used is contaminated meat -- same exact situation as Morales. But USADA was slammed about it, while there is silence for VADA.
Where is Hauser? Where is his conspiracy articles accusing VADA? :)
I thought they were the best and caught all cheaters right?? so why all the excuses for Povetkin?
I remember USADA being slammed for allowing dirty fighters to fight, now posters are asking VADA to allow a dirty fighter to fight?
Show us a link of some people questioning VADA please.
I have really only debated weltzscmerz and j0zef regarding this. I have purposely avoided the racist trolls. the debates have been heated but not childish. why should the discussion be avoided? A top HWT just tested positive for a banned substance and that led to one of the biggest fights of the year being cancelled.
My point to techliam, another solid poster, is that we are seeing solid posters blame Wilder because he didn't just fight a dirty guy. That is preposterous. If you do not agree, so be it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YZuAZ_zLiE I will leave you with this video sorry i dont know how to embed.
Im not saying dont debate what happened by all means sir. But dont argue moot points that isnt really going to advance a conversation.
WTF...barely anyone is questioning VADA. Nobody should be feeling victimized here. The right decision was made.
Povetkin used a banned substance and 99% of the people on here know that.
One or 2 people making dumb claims should not be the cause of the multiple reactionary threads about it.
Well Povetkin fans hate VADA now for obviously reasons but I would like to know why VADA SHOULDN'T BE QUESTIONED when Victor Conte is or was associated with it! VADA is also Independent as if it is no way they can't be corrupt as well?
They also just caught Francisco Vargas and let him go allowing to clear stuff out of his system so the fight can happen :nonono: that is not being talked about much because everybody is focused on Povetkin but this Vargas situation looks REALLY BAD!
That was the WBC's doing not VADA's. The WBC decided to let that fight go on
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