Why do people say floyd was "caught" doing peds?

you can overtrain and be dehydrated. I had to get a drip at a wrestling tournament in high school. I trained my ass off and was right at weight, but it was a strain with such low body fat. Until I see some proof, I'll give him the benefit of doubt like everyone else. you dont have to try to dry yourself out for it to happen. the man trains 2 a days sometimes more and for hours at a time. Is it out of the question to think he blew his load instead of automatically trying to label the man a cheat when he has been nothing but a symbol of hard work and dedication just seems like people are reaching because they are salty, he styled on them right to the bank hoping for his downfall. I respect everything you've said, but it still arouses suspicion. Again, Floyd's a finely tuned athlete who's in shape all year round. He's been a pro for 20 years. He never dehydrates himself a lot to make weight. Again, he had 30 days to lose the last 3.5 pounds. He's done that many other times. He also came in at 146 that he's also done many other times. So why was he so dehydrated, dehydrated to the point where water wasn't sufficient? It's perfectly understandable why people are suspicious. I don't believe he overtrained before the weigh in. The hard work's been done at that point. Everything slows down in the final week. Again, his numbers for the Berto fight were identical. So was he dehydrated against Berto? Has he used an IV before? People are going to speculate. And the fact that he was trying to clean up the sport means absolutely nothing to me. Lance Armstrong took people to court and sued them. If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt, that's cool. No problem. But in my opinion, it's absolutely ridiculous for you to claim that it's despicable for people to question what happened.

If you're talking about the haters, sure, they'll jump on anything they can to criticise or discredit him in anyway. But what about the other boxing fans? Floyd's actions look highly suspicious. We know he doesn't struggle to make weight. We know he doesn't dehydrate himself like someone like Canelo does and then rehydrates by large amounts. We know what his 30 day weight was. We know what he weighed in at. We know he doesn't train after the weigh-in. We know those same figures were replicated in other fights, including against Berto shortly afterwards. If you take into account the above information, you have to be perplexed at why he needed 750ml of saline and vitamins in his home. It doesn't add up. you can overtrain and be dehydrated. I had to get a drip at a wrestling tournament in high school. I trained my ass off and was right at weight, but it was a strain with such low body fat. Until I see some proof, I'll give him the benefit of doubt like everyone else. you dont have to try to dry yourself out for it to happen. the man trains 2 a days sometimes more and for hours at a time. Is it out of the question to think he blew his load instead of automatically trying to label the man a cheat when he has been nothing but a symbol of hard work and dedication just seems like people are reaching because they are salty, he styled on them right to the bank hoping for his downfall.

This entire post is false statements, misinformation and speculation on things he can not possibly know. It's the worst type of post because it's presented as fact. If I could I would delete it. No point of arguing because he doesn't speak fluent English. Everyone just ignore him. Remember our non-negotiable arragement? Floyd, Ellerbe - Floyd piss is black = dehydrated USADA - floyd can't give enough urine sample = dehydrated if there were not enough urine sample then how did they test the urine given before IV ?

This entire post is false statements, misinformation and speculation on things he can not possibly know. It's the worst type of post because it's presented as fact. If I could I would delete it. No point of arguing because he doesn't speak fluent English. Everyone just ignore him. Remember our non-negotiable arragement? what is "arragement" mr fluent in english sir? until now you have not proven floyd was dehydrated. diarrhea, chronic acute undisclosed illnesses LOL

you are so wrong. the reason USADA DCO said he was dehydrated was that Floyd can't piss enough urine needed for the test. the before sample was not enough so it was mixed with the after sample. you seemed to suggest that the before and the after IV urine sample were tested separately and comeback negative is wrong. IV is also known to masked peds if floyd was not dehydrated then the IV purpose was not for rehydration but to masked peds. the result dame back negative because that was what the IV's sole intent and purpose to mask the PEDs. the IV did what it had to do, make the result negative, that is what IV is also know for. 750 ml of IV solution in 15 inutes is never for rehydration. Floyd was not dehydrated in the first place. This entire post is false statements, misinformation and speculation on things he can not possibly know. It's the worst type of post because it's presented as fact. If I could I would delete it. No point of arguing because he doesn't speak fluent English. Everyone just ignore him. Remember our non-negotiable arragement?

Did you even read? :haha: I said if there was a positive result, an accusation or valid claim could be made that he was masking. But unfortunately, a positive did not occur. A sample was taken BEFORE and AFTER -- this returned negative. Sorry :( You say PED masking. What PED could be masked by SALINE and VITAMINS that wouldn't be caught by a WADA-accredited lab within 24 hours? I'll wait. :) first you have to prove that the content of the IV bag was saline solution and viatmin C

if the test came back negative = no masking if the test came back positive = no masking when will you know there were masking = if there were no test that come back at all LOL genius floyd fans logic. Two things administering IV is known for 1. rehydration 2. PED masking Floyd was not dehydrated and therefore the IV was administered not to rehydrated but to mask PEDs. 750 ml in 15 minutes is not intended for rehydration. Did you even read? :haha: I said if there was a positive result, an accusation or valid claim could be made that he was masking. But unfortunately, a positive did not occur. A sample was taken BEFORE and AFTER -- this returned negative. Sorry :( You say PED masking. What PED could be masked by SALINE and VITAMINS that wouldn't be caught by a WADA-accredited lab within 24 hours? I'll wait. :)

No, if the test came back positive then he was using PEDs. Or at the very least, a legit accusation could be made that he was using and even trying to mask via the IV. However, this is not the case as not only the before and after came back negative, but all other test results came back negative as well. He also tested the next day -- blood and urine, both negative. Rath and his logic. :) if the test came back negative = no masking if the test came back positive = no masking when will you know there were masking = if there were no test that come back at all LOL genius floyd fans logic. Two things administering IV is known for 1. rehydration 2. PED masking Floyd was not dehydrated and therefore the IV was administered not to rehydrated but to mask PEDs. 750 ml in 15 minutes is not intended for rehydration.

so if the test came back positive there was masking? genius floyd fan and his logic. No, if the test came back positive then he was using PEDs. Or at the very least, a legit accusation could be made that he was using and even trying to mask via the IV. However, this is not the case as not only the before and after came back negative, but all other test results came back negative as well. He also tested the next day -- blood and urine, both negative. Rath and his logic. :)

A sample was taken before and after -- this came back negative. It doesn't matter if they were tested separately. Anything positive would have came out in the test results. The fact that the samples came back negative means there was no masking. And what PED exactly could he be masking with saline and vitamins? The testing is very advanced now, so only a fool would try to do such a thing a day before the fight. As Victor Conte stated, if Floyd was indeed cheating, it wouldn't be through using an IV. It would be through something. That something else though you have yet to even discover. so if the test came back positive there was masking? genius floyd fan and his logic.

you are so wrong. the reason USADA DCO said he was dehydrated was that Floyd can't piss enough urine needed for the test. the before sample was not enough so it was mixed with the after sample. you seemed to suggest that the before and the after IV urine sample were tested separately and comeback negative is wrong. IV is also known to masked peds if floyd was not dehydrated then the IV purpose was not for rehydration but to masked peds. the result dame back negative because that was what the IV's sole intent and purpose to mask the PEDs. the IV did what it had to do, make the result negative, that is what IV is also know for. 750 ml of IV solution in 15 inutes is never for rehydration. Floyd was not dehydrated in the first place. A sample was taken before and after -- this came back negative. It doesn't matter if they were tested separately. Anything positive would have came out in the test results. The fact that the samples came back negative means there was no masking. And what PED exactly could he be masking with saline and vitamins? The testing is very advanced now, so only a fool would try to do such a thing a day before the fight. As Victor Conte stated, if Floyd was indeed cheating, it wouldn't be through using an IV. It would be through something. That something else though you have yet to even discover.

This poster seems to think the IV is a performance enhancer. No point discussing anything with this guy. See ya later. :haha: :haha:

Who knows? It's anyone's guess just like it's anyone's guess as to the extent of Pacquiao's injury before the fight. But there is nothing suspicious about it. If you believe that he wasn't dehydrated, then so be it. But at the very least, he must have felt 'sh*tty' to take one. Just like Pacquiao must have felt some type of way to take kinda strong medications in the form of Lidocaine and Toradol. Many fighters, along with those in MMA, state that after taking an IV -- you quickly feel much better than by hydrating orally. it's anybody's guess? then why are you contesting that they guessed it was suspicious? just like genius floyd fans suspicion that Pac was not injured. Floyd IV not suspicious, Pac injury suspicious. genius floyd fans logic. it's anybody's guess you say LOL

I really don't want to debate this any longer, but I don't want to seem rude and ignore you. Again, I think the fact that he needed it in the first place was highly suspicious. We'll have to agree to disagree. Please don't quote me, because I've nothing else to add. Nice debating with you. I'll catch you on another thread. This poster seems to think the IV is a performance enhancer. No point discussing anything with this guy. See ya later.

There is nothing suspicious because there was no PED usage. Taking an IV is not indicative of PED usage. And both before and after samples returned negative. If there was a positive, then you can draw suspicion about the IV. But unfortunately, this is not the case. Next, do you know how much 750 ml is physically? That is a small amount. 750 ml is equivalent to close to 0.2 of a gallon (20% of 1 gallon). Or 25 ounces. It's not much, but enough to help someone with dehydration versus using a mere 50 ml. you are so wrong. the reason USADA DCO said he was dehydrated was that Floyd can't piss enough urine needed for the test. the before sample was not enough so it was mixed with the after sample. you seemed to suggest that the before and the after IV urine sample were tested separately and comeback negative is wrong. IV is also known to masked peds if floyd was not dehydrated then the IV purpose was not for rehydration but to masked peds. the result dame back negative because that was what the IV's sole intent and purpose to mask the PEDs. the IV did what it had to do, make the result negative, that is what IV is also know for. 750 ml of IV solution in 15 inutes is never for rehydration. Floyd was not dehydrated in the first place.

There is nothing suspicious because there was no PED usage. Taking an IV is not indicative of PED usage. And both before and after samples returned negative. If there was a positive, then you can draw suspicion about the IV. But unfortunately, this is not the case. Next, do you know how much 750 ml is physically? That is a small amount. 750 ml is equivalent to close to 0.2 of a gallon (20% of 1 gallon). Or 25 ounces. It's not much, but enough to help someone with dehydration versus using a mere 50 ml. I really don't want to debate this any longer, but I don't want to seem rude and ignore you. Again, I think the fact that he needed it in the first place was highly suspicious. We'll have to agree to disagree. Please don't quote me, because I've nothing else to add. Nice debating with you. I'll catch you on another thread.

There was nothing suspicious because the tests came back negative? Seriously? How about the fact that he required an IV of 750ml in the first place? How the hell was that not suspicious? There's no logical reason for him being so dehydrated that that was the best course of action of take. It's nonsense. Anyway, nice talking to you. I'm going to leave it now. I may come back and read some more comments at a later date, but I've exhausted the topic so I'm going to find something else. Cheers. There is nothing suspicious because there was no PED usage. Taking an IV is not indicative of PED usage. And both before and after samples returned negative. If there was a positive, then you can draw suspicion about the IV. But unfortunately, this is not the case. Next, do you know how much 750 ml is physically? That is a small amount. 750 ml is equivalent to close to 0.2 of a gallon (20% of 1 gallon). Or 25 ounces. It's not much, but enough to help someone with dehydration versus using a mere 50 ml.

There is nothing suspicious about it because his samples came back positive. Again, they took samples before the IV and after the IV infusion. All samples came back negative. Next, one of the most notorious former PED peddlers doesn't believe there is anything suspicious about it either, and doesn't think Mayweather was doing any PEDs in preparation for the fight. And he went on record saying that if Mayweather was doing something -- it was something else. But that something else you have no idea what it would be! And it is far more logical and doable without the risk of taking something so close to the fight! Again, he must have felt 'bad' to have taken one. Also keep in mind, this was the biggest fight in boxing history. Both fighters were going through a great deal of stress and nervousness. The magnitude of the fight alone would have taken a toll on them physically. There was nothing suspicious because the tests came back negative? Seriously? How about the fact that he required an IV of 750ml in the first place? How the hell was that not suspicious? There's no logical reason for him being so dehydrated that that was the best course of action of take. It's nonsense. Anyway, nice talking to you. I'm going to leave it now. I may come back and read some more comments at a later date, but I've exhausted the topic so I'm going to find something else. Cheers.

What do you mean there was nothing suspicious about it? You're kidding yourself. Being dehydrated is one thing, but being so severely dehydrated that you require an IV administered at your home, is another thing altogether. Come on. Why do you think he was so dehydrated he needed that IV? Again, his 30 day weight for Berto was almost the same, and he weighed in at a pound under the limit. It doesn't add up. If you don't think he cheated, that's fine. But if you're saying his actions didn't raise any suspicion of any wrongdoing, then you're just burying your head in the sand. There is nothing suspicious about it because his samples came back positive. Again, they took samples before the IV and after the IV infusion. All samples came back negative. Next, one of the most notorious former PED peddlers doesn't believe there is anything suspicious about it either, and doesn't think Mayweather was doing any PEDs in preparation for the fight. And he went on record saying that if Mayweather was doing something -- it was something else. But that something else you have no idea what it would be! And it is far more logical and doable without the risk of taking something so close to the fight! Again, he must have felt 'bad' to have taken one. Also keep in mind, this was the biggest fight in boxing history. Both fighters were going through a great deal of stress and nervousness. The magnitude of the fight alone would have taken a toll on them physically.

Who knows? It's anyone's guess just like it's anyone's guess as to the extent of Pacquiao's injury before the fight. But there is nothing suspicious about it. If you believe that he wasn't dehydrated, then so be it. But at the very least, he must have felt 'sh*tty' to take one. Just like Pacquiao must have felt some type of way to take kinda strong medications in the form of Lidocaine and Toradol. Many fighters, along with those in MMA, state that after taking an IV -- you quickly feel much better than by hydrating orally. What do you mean there was nothing suspicious about it? You're kidding yourself. Being dehydrated is one thing, but being so severely dehydrated that you require an IV administered at your home, is another thing altogether. Come on. Why do you think he was so dehydrated he needed that IV? Again, his 30 day weight for Berto was almost the same, and he weighed in at a pound under the limit. It doesn't add up. If you don't think he cheated, that's fine. But if you're saying his actions didn't raise any suspicion of any wrongdoing, then you're just burying your head in the sand.