Why didn't Ward accept to fight GGG at 164?

Golovkin said it himself. Simple question: Whart was Ward's answer on that challenge? Did he reply? Did he got the ball rolling or was he quiet for 8 months? By the way, here's the link: http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-promoter-wed-fight-ward-164-50-50-split--93258 Loeffler said it and not Sanchez. So who's spreading fanboy propaganda now? In that article you just posted, Loeffler didn't say not one time that he offered team ward a 50/50 split at 164. He said they are willing to do 50/50 at 164. It's a difference between telling the media what your willing to do and what you actually do. And they didn't actually make that offer to team ward. but we do know for a fact that team ward made golovkin a offer. As soon as ward got out of his contract with goosen and got with roc nation and was able to actually fight. that's when the catchweight talk started. I like golovkin, but that doesn't change the fact that he ducked ward. just because I like a fighter doesn't mean I won't call them on bs. Golovkin is a buisness man just like everybody else. That's why he was willing to fight Froch and chavez at 168 and not ward. They were less risky than Ward and they paid more. same **** floyd ,pac, and canelo do. But ward is fighting the baddest man around his weight, golovkin should take notes

Ward has moved up a division. Why is the GGG defense force still on his nuts? He's no longer a threat. They know that was an out right duck. His name still haunts them *****s

He's not a business man, full 168 or no fight

Are you serious?!?!?! So according to you Ward is a chicken for not draining to fight Lil G...so what is he for choosing to move up to face the much bigger, stronger, and more dangerous Kovalev? I would say it's a lot easier to gain weight and move up a division than to shed weight for a fight Ward knows he could very well lose. Shedding weight to fight GGG is too much for Ward to handle and risk,....besides, I doubt he possesses the work ethic to make it happen.

164 isn't a real compromise. Losing weight is harder than gaining weight. Ward would be dead. It's funny how clowns cry about Ward being too big and how he has to fight at 175, but then act like him fighting at 164 is plausible

u guys are debating none sense ggg team never sent ward an offer at all let alone an offer for 164 it was just a pr stunt to get the ggg groupies on his side for not wanting to fight ward

just because Hops and Canelo were willing to prostitute themselves and bend over for a few pieces of silver, that means every other fighter is somehow obligated to do the same? I agree with GGG that there should not be catchweights in mandatory defenses. I also believe there should not be catchweights in title unifications. The reasoning is that they are not necessary. They are simply a means for the more popular fighter to weaken the less popular fighter I'm not saying every fighter should do the same. I'm saying that it's been done in the past when it came to making the biggest fight the sport has too offer. Hopkins did what he had to do in order to get oscar in the ring. Canelo did what he had to do in order to get floyd in the ring. Golovkin must do the same or risk fighting monroe level fighters for the rest of his career. Fighting those kind of fighters don't bring money or glory Sometimes you gotta sacrifice to get the fights you want. Especially when it's a career high payday

So first your argument was ward is not popular enough. Then I give you Golovkin's resume of unknown fighters. Now your argument is ward doesn't travel enough. Lmao LoL You don't know who you're arguing with... Red Cyclone aka Freedom2016 (he renamed himself after a banned poster lol @ the mancrush) is one of the worst posters here, don't try to be logical with him..... he's not trolling either, he's just special.

Hopkins vs de la hoya fought at a catchweight Hopkins was wbc, wba, IBF champion De la hoya was wbo champion 2 middleweight champions fighting at a catchweight. Mayweather vs canelo fought at a catchweight Mayweather was wba champion Canelo was WBC champion 2 super welterweights fighting at a catchweight Just some boxing history for you fans who don't know **** about boxing. Boxing facts. Not opinions. there is precedence for 2 champions in the same division fighting at a catchweight So can't go to 164lbs for the biggest fight of your career but but but 172lbs for Paul Smith Jr :rofl: What a coward ducker Ward really is, thanks for further exposing him as a coward.

The same reason why Golovkin won't fight Canelo at 155 lbs - it's fuucking retarded. And the winner is... Going above ur apex is difficult, going below is damn near impossible. Especially once you've entered ur prime.

Floyd and canelo were champions in the same division as well remember? WBC WBA unification And canelo still fought at a catchweight. Now tell me how it's different? De la hoya and hopkins were both champions in the same division as well remember? WBC WBA WBO IBF unification Hopkins still fought at a catchweight. Now tell me how it's different. Know your history before you start making excuses for fighters. Canelo is negotiating just like you said golovkin was doing. Don't be a hypocrite. just because Hops and Canelo were willing to prostitute themselves and bend over for a few pieces of silver, that means every other fighter is somehow obligated to do the same? I agree with GGG that there should not be catchweights in mandatory defenses. I also believe there should not be catchweights in title unifications. The reasoning is that they are not necessary. They are simply a means for the more popular fighter to weaken the less popular fighter

Truth was Ward didn't know what to do. He had admitted he can't make the weight anymore. Problem was, if he moves up there's the Kovalev danger lurking. He's confused as hell at that point. Meanwhile he had to play the GG card as long as it lasts. But he had to make a decision, move up or stay at his weight? He just picked the lesser evil. End thread here. This explains everything in just few sentences. Pretty much. He was stuck between a rock and a hard place. If he couldn't even make 168 anymore, he made the right call. Tough choice, gotta give him credit.

So according to you GGG is a chicken for wanting to drain himself at 154 and fight Floyd... and what was he when he called Froch at 168 in the U.K.? Thats the best you got...deflection, ok avoid the question good job, thats why you not worth debating

End thread here. This explains everything in just few sentences. So fighting Kovalev is a lesser evil than staying at the division you own with no threat in sight?

D'oh they really don't know what they're talking about do they lol. Hopkins vs de la hoya fought at a catchweight Hopkins was wbc, wba, IBF champion De la hoya was wbo champion 2 middleweight champions fighting at a catchweight. Mayweather vs canelo fought at a catchweight Mayweather was wba champion Canelo was WBC champion 2 super welterweights fighting at a catchweight Just some boxing history for you fans who don't know **** about boxing. Boxing facts. Not opinions. there is precedence for 2 champions in the same division fighting at a catchweight

Truth was Ward didn't know what to do. He had admitted he can't make the weight anymore. Problem was, if he moves up there's the Kovalev danger lurking. He's confused as hell at that point. Meanwhile he had to play the GG card as long as it lasts. But he had to make a decision, move up or stay at his weight? He just picked the lesser evil. End thread here. This explains everything in just few sentences.

All those guys you mentioned apart from Wade and Monroe Jr all have one thing in common... They actual travel they're not afraid to fight in someone elses territory unlike lil Ward who can't jump on a plane for a rematch with the biggest PPV name at 168. Ward is a nobody, unheard of :) you really think Floyd would jump up to 154 to fight Lara? This is the same case Ward and Lara both talented but nobody cares or knows who they are. So first your argument was ward is not popular enough. Then I give you Golovkin's resume of unknown fighters. Now your argument is ward doesn't travel enough. Lmao

you conveniently are omitting the fact that GGG and Canelo are champs in the SAME DIVISION. Floyd and canelo were champions in the same division as well remember? WBC WBA unification And canelo still fought at a catchweight. Now tell me how it's different? De la hoya and hopkins were both champions in the same division as well remember? WBC WBA WBO IBF unification Hopkins still fought at a catchweight. Now tell me how it's different. Know your history before you start making excuses for fighters. Canelo is negotiating just like you said golovkin was doing. Don't be a hypocrite.

Really don't matter, he instead moved up to fight somebody MORE DANGEROUS while with respect to GGG he is still fight inferior opponents of course that is not his fault I get that but his Resume haven't improved AT ALL since the Ward back and forth GGG fans and Abel Sanchez should probably just STFU about Ward because it is a argument you can't win. Ward is daring to be great by going up to fight someone who is TRULY the most dangerous man in boxing which is Kovalev

What was Ward's immediate reaction to GGG's first offer? What offer? Abel sachez is not a promoter or a Manager. He is a trainer. He said 50/50 164 catchweight. Not Tom Loeffler. So unless you got a video of Loeffler saying he offered Ward the fight. Stop spewing fanboy propaganda. I have never heard Tom Loeffler say he offered Ward a fight. But I have heard him say team ward offered them a fight. It's just that the Lemiuex fight was already done according to Loeffler