Lomachenko is a hypejob

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People who hold the loss against Salido against him are idiots. And the same people ask questions like "who has he fought?" Ridiculous. Loma fought a dangerous fighter Salido in his 2nd pro fight and Salido cheated a lot. Loma is finally someone who wants to test himself and wants to fight the best fighters possible, he doesn't care about getting an L. Having no losses is massively overrated thanks to Floyd and his cherrypicking and now people hold this as some sort of standard for all fighters. I'm not talking about being undefeated as if it's a standard. It's just a plus. The thing is, Lomachenko has been defeated already, so he doesn't even have that plus, and besides that, he is further burdened by the fact that he has beaten nobodies. He got a loss and useless wins. He needs to start pulling himself together.

Nah bro, that isn't what I am saying at all. I think OP is a troll anyway as he contradicts himself - said something about liking fighters who take on challenges win or lose, yet bashes Loma - but wouldn't taking on a seasoned vet titlist who it was clear was going to come in heavy and probably use every dirty trick in the book in his 2nd pro fight not worthy of that recognition? Everyone likes to say that the ams and pros are two completely different things, so why are we judging Loma as if he is superman and his am achievements and skillsets mean he can beat the likes of Salido in his second pro fight? Clearly he believed that and he wasn't far off doing it. And many of his fans believed that. I am merely asking the question of if there are any fighters in history that have come in in their second pro fight and beaten the likes of a Salido - regardless of the hype of their prior amateur career or anything like that. I can't think of one, so I don't see why Loma is bashed for not beating him, as if there is some sort of precedent that he didn't accomplish and as such is a 'hypejob' or anything else people call him. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I don't hype Loma too much, I want him to prove his greatness in the ring, and show the world what he can actually do, rather than the fans making guesses. I feel he can go further and further now as he adapts to become a real seasoned pro. But I am not going to say anything or claim that till he goes out there and proves it. But he is in no way a hypejob. BTW - you think GRJ was worse than Salido currently/at the time he beat GRJ? Yea, he's clearly trolling. Loma is over-hyped (meaning, getting too much praise despite not having accomplished anything significant as a pro) but he's by no means a "hypejob". He has real skills and I'm sure he'll prove that as opportunities come along. Over-hyping is something fans do and has no reflection on the boxer himself. "Hype-job" would mean someone who is oversold for the sake of ratings (UFC's Mcgreggor is a perfect example) and the product of a media/promotional push. Loma is real-deal, IMO. Regarding Salido and Russel, Garry hasn't done anything to prove he's special either. At least, with Salido, we can evaluate where he stands as a boxer. Until Russel actually does something meaningful I'm not going to put him above Salido just because he "looks" impressive. Salido himself is an example how a guy who doesn't look impressive but gets things done. I'm pretty conservative about giving out praise until a guy gets the wins to back it up.

Wasn't directed toward me but it's a weak argument so I'll take it. If the argument is that a loss shouldn't "count" or reflect on his ability then you guys need to make up your mind because you use his 400~some amateur fights to bolster his greatness. So, which is it? He's amazing and has had 400 fights to prove it? Or, none of that counts because 400 fights weren't enough to make him good enough to beat a Salido-level fighter? Whether someone else has done it or not hardly matters because he hasn't fought anyone better than Salido since, and Salido ain't great. What Loma fans need to do is BE PATIENT. You really don't have shyt for an argument right now because his pro record is nothing special at all so far. But, he's an incredible talent and will likely make it far. This childish mentality of wanting everyone to recognize him as something great RIGHT NOW needs to be shelved. Remember how obnoxious it was when Broner fans did that? Be patient and watch Loma come into his own. Some of these douchebags on here Red K'ing guys because they don't believe in Loma are insecure idiots. Let the guy prove himself and the world will see. Nah bro, that isn't what I am saying at all. I think OP is a troll anyway as he contradicts himself - said something about liking fighters who take on challenges win or lose, yet bashes Loma - but wouldn't taking on a seasoned vet titlist who it was clear was going to come in heavy and probably use every dirty trick in the book in his 2nd pro fight not worthy of that recognition? Everyone likes to say that the ams and pros are two completely different things, so why are we judging Loma as if he is superman and his am achievements and skillsets mean he has no right to lose to the likes of Salido in his second pro fight? Clearly he believed that and he wasn't far off doing it. And many of his fans believed that. Salido isn't great but he is a nightmare stylistic matchup for a green pro, and a lot of his losses came in his youth as an early pro - since then he has only lost to top quality opposition like Mikey, Gamboa, JMM etc. I am merely asking the question of if there are any fighters in history that have come in in their second pro fight and beaten the likes of a Salido - regardless of the hype of their prior amateur career or anything like that. I can't think of one, so I don't see why Loma is bashed for not beating him, as if there is some sort of precedent that he didn't accomplish and as such is a 'hypejob' or anything else people call him. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I don't hype Loma too much, I want him to prove his greatness in the ring, and show the world what he can actually do, rather than the fans making guesses. I feel he can go further and further now as he adapts to become a real seasoned pro. But I am not going to say anything or claim that till he goes out there and proves it. But he is in no way a hypejob. BTW - you think GRJ was worse than Salido currently/at the time he beat GRJ?

Hypejob or not, Walters looked like he priced himself out to avoid fighting the hypejob. That's how it looked like, whether you agree or not. Perception is hard to repel.

This guys is an alt (TS I mean). Join date of March 2016, already red...nothing to see here.

Still waiting... Wasn't directed toward me but I'll take it. If the argument is that a loss shouldn't "count" or reflect on his ability then you guys need to make up your mind because you use his 400~some amateur fights to bolster his greatness. So, which is it? He's amazing and has had 400 fights to prove it? Or, none of that counts because 400 fights weren't enough to make him good enough to beat a Salido-level fighter? Whether someone else has done it or not hardly matters because he hasn't fought anyone better than Salido since, and Salido ain't great. What Loma fans need to do is BE PATIENT. You really don't have shyt for an argument right now because his pro record is nothing special at all so far. But, he's an incredible talent and will likely make it far. This childish mentality of wanting everyone to recognize him as something great RIGHT NOW needs to be shelved. Remember how obnoxious it was when Broner fans did that? Be patient and watch Loma come into his own. Some of these douchebags on here Red K'ing guys because they don't believe in Loma are insecure idiots. Let the guy prove himself and the world will see.

Name a fighter that has beaten (or even fought) someone the level of an Orlando Salido (veteran, spoiler, titlist, fighting overweight) in their second pro fight, and then say that taints his record. I'll wait. Still waiting...

People who hold the loss against Salido against him are idiots. And the same people ask questions like "who has he fought?" Ridiculous. Loma fought a dangerous fighter Salido in his 2nd pro fight and Salido cheated a lot. Loma is finally someone who wants to test himself and wants to fight the best fighters possible, he doesn't care about getting an L. Having no losses is massively overrated thanks to Floyd and his cherrypicking and now people hold this as some sort of standard for all fighters.

Man, do you like ANY boxer? why would anyone like a boxer other than kovalev? kovalev's got it all and every other boxer just makes me wish they were kovalev

Salido has 13 losses. HBO was openly rooting for Salido to get robbed on the scorecards. You're the joke. Exactly. 100 excuses can't change 1 truth.

You're defending Lomachenko's loss to Salido. I am telling you that Salido has lost 13 times. You're giving reasons why Lomachenko won. I am telling you that HBO's commentary team knew that Lomachenko had lost so they began openly discussing that a robbery wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Now shut your gay ass up. Kid, don't you have burgers to flip or something? I posted facts about the fight, you're posting random irrelevant crap about HBO commentary. Seriously, how did you get off my ignore list?

Salido has 13 losses. HBO was openly rooting for Salido to get robbed on the scorecards. You're the joke. You suck for not debating any of his points

Dude literally has 6 fights and we're doing the "who has he fought" already? Exactly. Most prospects wouldn't have faced a salido until they had 20 fights.

GGG is a hypejob, Spence is a hypejob, Joshua is a hypejob and so it goes. The better the fighter the bigger hypejob that fighter is supposed to be. He is a hell of a fighter with the best amateur record in history and he became a pro champion in record time.

Salido has 13 losses. HBO was openly rooting for Salido to get robbed on the scorecards. You're the joke. What does that have to do with anything I posted? Why are you quoting me?

Are you seriously using the Salido loss to say Loma is overrated? Salido's official weight was 128, over the 126 limit of the fight. Unofficially, Salido outweighed Lomachenko by 11 pounds, 147-136 Lomachenko was more accurate, 37% vs. 22% Lomachenko landed more punches, 164 to 142. Lomachenko landed harder punches, with Salido saying: "I was hurt very badly in the 12th round," Salido said. "He caught me with a very bad body shot. It was a matter of survival. It was preparation that got me through the round. I made sure he didn't land a liver punch." The referee, Laurence Cole, was widely criticized for allowing Salido to land a crazy number of low blows, mostly to Loma's hips and thighs. It's very hard to move when your opponents are hitting you there. You're a joke.

Wilder. Joshua. Fury. Povetkin. Kovalev. Ward. The list is long. Want to list who these guys fought in their 2nd pro fight?

It's obvious this guy is just trolling. If he thinks Loma is a hypejob or overrated, it's his opinion. You can't please everybody.

Boxing is a hypejob.