Best Heavyweight in the world

"King Kong" Ortiz is the best Heavyweight on the planet right now. He's a big southpaw who can box and would be trouble for anybody, but he's like 36, so his windows closing. He'll be the best for the next 2 1/2 years or so. Then, it's Anthony Joshua's turn. Him and Joseph Parker could be the co-rulers of the division. I wanna say Wilder, but I gotta see improvement. And I don't know where this belief that Fury's some great fighter came from. He beat a 41 year old Vlad that was distracted. I don't think Vlad took it that seriously and that's about it. Vlad pummels Fury 2 years ago. Good post, some points I don't agree with though like AJ and Parker ruling the division. Wlad has slid the last few years, this past two years dramatically as stats show. Had Wlad have fought Fury in 2012 when Peter Fury refused to put his man in there I'm certain it'd have been lights out early doors for the fluff fisted one, look at the amount of punches Wlad was throwing that year compared to his output in April last year, his signs of decline were there for all to see versus Pulev too unless you choose to overlook them. I see Ortiz as the danger man for the next 3-4 years, I think it'll take him another two years to get the fight he craves to establish himself though yet, unless GB can coax someone big like AJ or Wilder before Wlad goes on to unify with them.

If he was as good as some of the Fury fans think he is he would have fought Wilder but I think all know Hughie doesn't have the power in them hands to keep a big bomber off him. I'm not personally blown away by him, like I said. He does look to have decent potential, and sparring with Fury will have given him some insanely valuable experience, but he's one of those guys who'll need to prove himself in the ring since his best qualities aren't immediately apparent. I agree he doesn't have the biggest power, but that's no bar to success as big cousin Tyson testifies. If Hughie develops his skills and boxing IQ to the same level (as much as boxing IQ can be developed) then he won't need to have massive fight stopping power to win fights.

"King Kong" Ortiz is the best Heavyweight on the planet right now. He's a big southpaw who can box and would be trouble for anybody, but he's like 36, so his windows closing. He'll be the best for the next 2 1/2 years or so. Then, it's Anthony Joshua's turn. Him and Joseph Parker could be the co-rulers of the division. I wanna say Wilder, but I gotta see improvement. And I don't know where this belief that Fury's some great fighter came from. He beat a 41 year old Vlad that was distracted. I don't think Vlad took it that seriously and that's about it. Vlad pummels Fury 2 years ago. So much wrong with this post...

"King Kong" Ortiz is the best Heavyweight on the planet right now. He's a big southpaw who can box and would be trouble for anybody, but he's like 36, so his windows closing. He'll be the best for the next 2 1/2 years or so. Then, it's Anthony Joshua's turn. Him and Joseph Parker could be the co-rulers of the division. I wanna say Wilder, but I gotta see improvement. And I don't know where this belief that Fury's some great fighter came from. He beat a 41 year old Vlad that was distracted. I don't think Vlad took it that seriously and that's about it. Vlad pummels Fury 2 years ago.

Hes not fat, its all a gimmick..the guys 6'9 and can shed 30 pounds easily just by walking to moderate exercise along with diet...he'll come in at the right weight and will have no excuse if he loses .If hes going to lose hes already showed his hand making excuses that hes unmotivated, which again is all smoke and mirrors. I think he knows hes getting the real Wlad this time and don't believe hes as confident. It doesn't really matter at the end of the day Wlad is the better skilled guy still on paper. If Wlad doesn't respect your power he has less to worry about tand will take chances so that's where its at. As far as Aj well you can disagree all you like not one thing I said isn't true. You are mistaking k.o percentages for a power puncher based on he stopped many guys ....its HOW he stopped them. No I'm not mistaking anything your punching power is based upon knockout percentages and Fury is able average in this regard. Fury outboxed Wlad easily in the first fight Wlad isn't superior at anything. And to say that Fury isn't fat is a joke he looked like a pregnant pear at the press conference and even 30 pounds can't save him! Fury's whole tactic always revolves around using his amazing height advantage fats hands and feet he demonstrates a lot of lateral movement that makes him very hard to hit. how will he manage that being as fat as he is? Son't act like a number of factors don't impact the fight in the ring. Corales beat Castillo in fight one in the rematch Castillo came in over weight and stopped him factors such as fitness, weight and wear and tear have an impact on the fight hence the whole concept of someone being shot. Tyson will probably lose by stoppage now due to being so far out of shape he's still a skilled fighter when he'd on it.

Fury is not a power one shot guy ..no...and if you think that well your wrong.The second phrase you posted has nothing to do with how well he would do to a an inside AJ pummeling that would happen to Fury. I never said anything how good or bad Fury was ,thsats the difference between being a fanboy and being a realist to dissect match ups.Dont hold your breath on a fury win in july either. I know he isn't but he can hurt and stop people, plus he's skilled. I'm not a fanboy and thought he'd win before today's press conference but he was so fat I think he'll be stopped now.

We should hopefully get a clearer picture of this within the next couple years.

I can't agree with anything you say! Aj doesn't have to worry about Fury's power? he's got 18 KO out of 25 fights that's substantial and above average. He's 6'9 tall and weighs over 20 stone if you don't realise man of that size can hurt anyone I don't know what to say. Also Fury is great at boxing tall and keeping people at a distance if he's so bad how was he able to beat and neutralise Wlad? He's a casual who DKSAB, completely suckered in by the AJ/Matchroom/Hearn/Sky hype. Just point and laugh.

Fury would have no answer for AJ so I don't see a mistake at all. the real reason why john fury wants the fight as soon as possible is to fight a green AJ we all know this.It still doesn't change my pics..Wlad over fury which derails the match anyway,we will see. the only guy with the attributes to beat a AJ is Wlad himself ,that's if he gets by fury,which he should. I highly doubt Wlad would pick Fury over AJ,since he thinks AJ will beat everyone not named himself. AJdoesnt have to worry about power from Fury,its one of the esasiset fights for him if you know what you are looking at. Even Breazeale would be a top guy for Tysons resume so its blown out of proportion that Fury is all of a sudden some unstoppable juggernaut,until the rematrch we cant accsess Fury himself really. My eyes don't lie, i know what I see in AJ. I can't agree with anything you say! Aj doesn't have to worry about Fury's power? he's got 18 KO out of 25 fights that's substantial and above average. He's 6'9 tall and weighs over 20 stone if you don't realise man of that size can hurt anyone I don't know what to say. Also Fury is great at boxing tall and keeping people at a distance if he's so bad how was he able to beat and neutralise Wlad?

you answered your own post since the fury fight with Aj isn't possible until down the road... I still wouldn't favor fury's skills over him, its a stylistic nightmare for him no matter how much experience Fury has. I don't see how going 7 rounds with Whyte has anything to do with an improving Joshua by the time they fight .I can reference several fury fights that suggest AJ wipes him out.It means little as Fury is himself a much improved fighter than when he fought Cunningham . Make no mistake, if they face now like Hearn says they are planning for a fight around Sep/Nov of this year, then Fury gets the W. AJ is untested yet imo & still needs to fight tougher guys to bring out more out of him.. He needs guys who can take him to deep waters & bring out the best of him.. I'm an AJ fan but like Wlad said in his interview with Froch (before the Fury fight), AJ needs more experience before he becomes a potential contender to face Wlad & indirectly Fury too because he beat Wlad.. Can AJ handle lateral movement, can AJ keep his power & stamina for 12 rounds, Can he come back from behind the points(without knocking down), can he pull himself from a knock down & come back & finish a fight.. Once he ticks all these checkboxes we can know he is here to stay & rule..

Why are people so reluctant to give Fury credit? He beat the best to become the best. I know. I dont get it either.

Man who beat The Man - means Fury.

Fury's win over Wlad needs to be put in perspective. He boxed a guy who is used to taking no risks. Like when a counterpuncher dominates another counterpuncher, it can make the winner look better than he really is, and the loser look worse. Joshua is not Wlad. He might not be as good as Wlad in a lot of ways, but he is almost certainly more comfortable fighting aggressively. He hasn't faced a big test yet so we don't know how good his offensive game really is, but he looks fast and sharp. That's an entirely different proposition for Fury than Wlad was. The styles are just too different to draw any concrete conclusions.

I'd pick Wladimir to beat Ortiz all day every day. I'm not just saying that because it makes Fury looks better, i just don't think Wlad would lose to anyone smaller than him. Wlad would jab him to bits, soften him up and KO him late. Fury had youth and speed on his side, Ortiz wouldn't. Perfect! Ortiz's inside game is good, but it wont work against Wlad & Wlad has the subtle movement to stay out of Ortiz's power shots & land his own 1-2 & hold on.. It would be an ugly contest but I think it might go to the score cards imo.. Ortiz has a good enough chin.. but again Wlad can punch like a horse even at this age & even Fury agreed that Wlad's shots hurt him a bit and had a ringing effect later..

Wlad was the man and Fury beat him, no way would Wlad say AJ is now the man to beat, no chance, source it prove me wrong. It's that type of trash that gives a fan base a bad name, you made that up right ? AJ may be favoured by some over Wlad but the consensus is not AJ is better than Wlad right now, right now Wlad is recognised as the no.2. I'm not overly sure how many people genuinely believe AJ would beat Wlad right now, I'd wager even fewer would be prepared to put money where their mouths are. Wlad would starch AJ and Wilder. Ortiz and Fury are the only two who give him any issues right now. Spot On, but however Fury seems a bigger threat to Wlad than Ortiz because of his style & reach.. Ortiz doesn't have a lot of tools in his arsenal & does not have a good defense.. He can bang & he seems to have a good chin.. But can he sustain power punches by Wlad - I guess no.. On the contrary can Wlad take punches from Ortiz & hold him? Yes!! Wlad's clinch is much much better than Mayweather's clinch.. Something Steward taught him just as well as he taught Lennox..

If Wlad beats Fury, then Wlad easily rules the division for 1-2 yrs before retiring for good.. Remember he has 3 more fights left with his deal with RTL so he might fight Wilder, Ortiz & AJ - tough fights but not tougher than Fury imo.. If Fury wins, then Fury easily rules the division for 1-2 yrs until AJ gains rounds, experience & has good wins. If Fury meets AJ now, Fury wins on points.. If Fury meets AJ after 1-2 yrs, its AJ by KO. Ortiz will not be among top 3 HW for sure, simply because we have taller guys Fury, AJ & Wilder who can keep Ortiz at bay with their jab & reach(AJ & Wilder still need to be consistent over 12 rounds).. Parker is a pleasant introduction to the division, but imo he will be #3 or #4 with Fury, AJ & Wilder top 3 (not in that order) Even if Povetkin wins over Wilder, he cannot win over Fury as he is too slick..

I don't recall anyone giving Martin or Whyte a shot versus AJ, I'm sure their were a couple of imbeciles out there who said something to that effect but were just desperadoes hoping to see AJ lose. I don't really dislike AJ, I wouldn't claim to be a huge fan either, I'd like to see him raise his competition level before getting excited over him firstly. And I think he could bomb Fury out early, I certainly wouldn't bank on it though, and I'm neither sure why anyone else would, unless they're swept away by his current hype having faced a series of bums in his 16 fight marathon of finding phoney challenges. AJ can't bomb out Fury, when a guy like Whyte took him rounds. I will say that Fury has superior power to Fury but Fury, at this point, probably beats him in every other criteria.

AJ is favored over everyone ...thats not coincidence .I dont have to site anything its pretty common knowledge that Wlad has picked AJ to take over the HW division and looks like freedom did the work for me anyway.. Plenty pros in the game picking AJ over Fury too uhurmmm Haye I get the feeling Fury will bottle the rematch though I still hope that won't distract AJ from wanting to fight him.

If I had to put my house on it I would probably say AJ is the next dominating champ. I don't think Wilder is good enough and I don't think Fury will be motivated after 2-3 fights from now. As for the best right now? Fury.

That what people said about Whyte and Martin, ooh its too soon, ooh he isn't ready yet, ooh he is going to get exposed because not enough fights blah blah blah I'd wager with anyone that AJ will spark Fury out in absolutely brutal fashion it wont even be close. Who said that? :lol1: