Its not a great fight but necessary if GGG wants to keep the belt (which he does). Hate it or love it... or be indifferent about it... how will it do as far as ratings are concerned.
are we going to see an improvement from GGG's last HBO (non PPV fight?)
Will you watch it?
first of all, lets not act let this division is stacked because it's arguably the weakest division in the sport .....black and white, murray lost to a one legged old version of martinez and got beat up by arguably andre ward's easiest opponent in the super 6 who is also past prime.....murray is a b minus figther on his best day.....lemule is all power, very limited and was ko'ed by freaking rubio.
Trolling at it's finest.
Hm.... you bring up a good point.
This might not make a mil as easily as I thought.
Im watching boxing but dont forget NBA playoffs, potential NHL round deciding games, and return of jon jones on UFC.
It isn't a strong division but its not the weakest either. It always happens when a talent rises head and shoulders above everyone else the division gets weak. Maybe it's not weak maybe its just the reflection in comparison to the talent that stands head and shoulders above the rest... it always happens this way.
Murray is a top 10 middleweight, would give anyone problems at middleweight... weaker at SMW. Lemiux lost to Rubio when he was 22 years old... bad loss and the one after that is even worse (alcine)... if you saw the Rubio fight you can tell that he shot his load too early... lost because of his inexperience more than anything. a lot of good fighters lost fights early in their career due to inexperience (Hopkins, Paquio, Hagler... Lemiux is nothing like these guys... but i am not going to write him off because of his rookie mistakes early in his career).
anyways going way off topic... the point is that Wade and Berto weren't/aren't great opponents... i think we both can agree on that.
ok thats fair
first of all, lets not act let this division is stacked because it's arguably the weakest division in the sport .....black and white, murray lost to a one legged old version of martinez and got beat up by arguably andre ward's easiest opponent in the super 6 who is also past prime.....murray is a b minus figther on his best day.....lemule is all power, very limited and was ko'ed by freaking rubio.
It isn't a strong division but its not the weakest either. It always happens when a talent rises head and shoulders above everyone else the division gets weak. Maybe it's not weak maybe its just the reflection in comparison to the talent that stands head and shoulders above the rest... it always happens this way.
Murray is a top 10 middleweight, would give anyone problems at middleweight... weaker at SMW. Lemiux lost to Rubio when he was 22 years old... bad loss and the one after that is even worse (alcine)... if you saw the Rubio fight you can tell that he shot his load too early... lost because of his inexperience more than anything. a lot of good fighters lost fights early in their career due to inexperience (Hopkins, Paquio, Hagler... Lemiux is nothing like these guys... but i am not going to write him off because of his rookie mistakes early in his career).
anyways going way off topic... the point is that Wade and Berto weren't/aren't great opponents... i think we both can agree on that.
no... i am comparing a farewell fight to a mandatory fight. Neither is a great fight by any standard. I am comparing opponents and Berto isn't any better than Wade
You act like GGG is fighting the worst options availble to him but ignore the facts that he is trying to unify, that he faced Geale (at 160... not the 157 version) who only lost by SD before that fight, Martin Murray who arguably beat Martinez and should have been the lineal champ and lemiux who was the champ... and that he consistently fights top 10 guys in his division... and fights 3-4 times a year.
Anyways it doesn't matter i know your position on "lil G" i am not trying to change your mind or don't really care... we are all entitled to our opinion.first of all, lets not act let this division is stacked because it's arguably the weakest division in the sport .....black and white, murray lost to a one legged old version of martinez and got beat up by arguably andre ward's easiest opponent in the super 6 who is also past prime.....murray is a b minus figther on his best day.....lemule is all power, very limited and was ko'ed by freaking rubio.
Only 2 fights from HBO or SHO have broken 1M in 2016, Kovalev-Pascal II 1.179M and Ward-Barrera 1.064M.
If Golovkin can score 1.2M vs. a bum like Wade, I'd be very impressed by that.
Hm.... you bring up a good point.
This might not make a mil as easily as I thought.
lol@you comparing a farewell fight to ggg's long career of can crushing.....and why can't i accept the berto fight as a farewell fight? pbf had nothing else to prove in his hof career, lil g is 34 and has yet to face a good opponent.
no... i am comparing a farewell fight to a mandatory fight. Neither is a great fight by any standard. I am comparing opponents and Berto isn't any better than Wade
You act like GGG is fighting the worst options availble to him but ignore the facts that he is trying to unify, that he faced Geale (at 160... not the 157 version) who only lost by SD before that fight, Martin Murray who arguably beat Martinez and should have been the lineal champ and lemiux who was the champ... and that he consistently fights top 10 guys in his division... and fights 3-4 times a year.
Anyways it doesn't matter i know your position on "lil G" i am not trying to change your mind or don't really care... we are all entitled to our opinion.
you are just a ggg fanboy. this won't touch a million. ggg can throw all the balls out he wants that doesn't mean he will ever grow a pair of his own and fight good fighters
1st sentence -false HAHAHAHAH.
2nd sentence-I disagree. He consistently exceeds 1 million viewers
3rd sentence-true
my point is if they made floyd vs. Berto which was a god awful fight... you can't justify that fight accept that it was an easy going away fight... and it got 500k ppv buys... which brings me to my point that ****ty fight got that many ppv views then this fight would get decent ratings.
lol@you comparing a farewell fight to ggg's long career of can crushing.....and why can't i accept the berto fight as a farewell fight? pbf had nothing else to prove in his hof career, lil g is 34 and has yet to face a good opponent.
Its a free view weekend on HBO, the fight follows Jurassic Park and Beyoncé, and HBO has done a lot of promoting (throw out ball at dodger stadium, espn spots). I think it could exceed 1.5 mil.
you are just a ggg fanboy. this won't touch a million. ggg can throw all the balls out he wants that doesn't mean he will ever grow a pair of his own and fight good fighters
Berto is better than Wade and more proven......GGG has a resume full of Wade's and berto's.....as a lil g fan are you sure you wanna go there(resumes)? I have no clue what Floyd has to do with this because he is 50 times greater than lil g, talent wise and resume.
my point is if they made floyd vs. Berto which was a god awful fight... you can't justify that fight accept that it was an easy going away fight... and it got 500k ppv buys... which brings me to my point that ****ty fight got that many ppv views then this fight would get decent ratings.
Its a free view weekend on HBO, the fight follows Jurassic Park and Beyoncé, and HBO has done a lot of promoting (throw out ball at dodger stadium, espn spots). I think it could exceed 1.5 mil.
in my eyes Berto was a worse opponent for Floyd then Wade is for GGG.
lets just put it this way Floyd was the Daddy of Berto's other Daddys (Guarrero and Ortiz)Berto is better than Wade and more proven......GGG has a resume full of Wade's and berto's.....as a lil g fan are you sure you wanna go there(resumes)? I have no clue what Floyd has to do with this because he is 50 times greater than lil g, talent wise and resume.
Berto is better than Wade and more proven......GGG has a resume full of Wade's and berto's.....as a lil g fan are you sure you wanna go there(resumes). I have no clue what Floyd has to do with this because he is 50 times greater than lil g, talent wise and resume.
Probably another year or so away from Ratings meaning nothing because everybody will be watching TV by Legal Streaming Services like SlingTV or Playstation Vue
Boxing is Embarrassingly so out of date, UFC already have Apps and Streams setup going into the future, while Boxing still trying to score TV Ratings and using Terrestrial Radio Commercials to Markets their Events :lol1:
But I guess it will do well :dunno: Decent Ratings on HBO don't make you a Superstar, PPV Numbers do!
This fight doesn't deserve more than 100 views because of how crappy it is but it'll get over 1 mil....
in my eyes Berto was a worse opponent for Floyd then Wade is for GGG.
lets just put it this way Floyd was the Daddy of Berto's other Daddys (Guarrero and Ortiz)