Just saw Joseph Parker has been included in the top 10 heavyweights according to Ring Magazine.
I honestly only recognize 1 name on his resume, this Irineu Costa who's pretty much the guy British level guys are fighting on their way up.
That's it.
Looking at Hughie Fury, he's been in with some recognizable gatekeepers. Danny hughes, Rudenko, Arias (who took Pulev the distance) and Dominic Guinn who fought everyone.
How the hell is Joseph Parker ahead of Hughie in the rankings?
On top of that, Hughie is a world amateur champion and has more fights than Parker.
What do you think?
The fact that you fail to acknowledge that Takam is better than anybody Hughie and Joshua have fought, tells me that you sir are clueless and it would be completely useless to argue with you.
If I did that the fight isn't cagey :lol1: But this was didn't live up to that :lol1:
I excluded it because I clearly said it was cagey for most of the fight until both got tired and started landing shots before the finish.
So no example from you then.
My apologies. I forgot you were excluding everything after the seventh round because…. ????
Jesus.
As I said, find me a "cagey" fight with a total of more than ten percent of actual time spent in meaningful exchanges. Foreman v Lyle has just under five minutes of total action in a fourteen and a half minute fight and that's including almost every major punch exchange. That's what, about a third of the entire fight spent in actual fighting in one of the most action packed heavyweight slugfests of all time?
Post a fight that proves your point. You've so far failed to do so.
If I did that the fight isn't cagey :lol1: But this was didn't live up to that :lol1:
I excluded it because I clearly said it was cagey for most of the fight until both got tired and started landing shots before the finish.
Obviously you're too slow to understand that I meant after introductions and up to end of the 7th round of highlights :lol1:
My apologies. I forgot you were excluding everything after the seventh round because…. ????
Jesus.
As I said, find me a "cagey" fight with a total of more than ten percent of actual time spent in meaningful exchanges. Foreman v Lyle has just under five minutes of total action in a fourteen and a half minute fight and that's including almost every major punch exchange. That's what, about a third of the entire fight spent in actual fighting in one of the most action packed heavyweight slugfests of all time?
Post a fight that proves your point. You've so far failed to do so.
Nothing, at the moment they should be level par in terms of resume or fury slightly ahead in terms of their resume. H.fury is going the Tyson route of biding his time and learning first before going after number 1.
1 minute 30 HL reel? Are you fckuing retarded? The vid goes on for a solid three minutes, minus the introductions and slowmos. Find me a HL vid that contains non-stop action for a significantly longer period than that. Aside from Monshipour vs Sithchatchawal, and random bum fights where neither guy knows how to pace themselves, you'd have a hard time coming up with any fight where the pertinent action exceeds a fraction of the actual in-ring combat.
You'd certainly never be able to find a cagey fight over more than six rounds where the action exceed ten percent of the HL reel combat. That's what you're painting the fight as so prove it. Otherwise, STFU.
Obviously you're too slow to understand that I meant after introductions and up to end of the 7th round of highlights :lol1:
Notice that the first highlight came in late round 3. That's 30% of the fight gone by the time the first highlight came. What was the highlight, Takam shooting a jab, Povetkin coming in with ineffective punches.
Next highlight - End of round 4. Exactly the same with Takam behind the shoulderroll. After they stand in the pocket for 15 seconds landing nothing solid. 40% of the fight gone.
Next highlight - Standing in the middle of the ring during round 5, throwing solid shots for 15 seconds. No one lands anything significant, Povetkin the agressor, takam shows good defense. End of round 5 we see some good action for the first time. 50% of the fight gone.
Next highlight - Middle of round 6. Takam behind the shoulderroll looking for a counter, Povetkin swinging and missing. Then some ok action for some 15 seconds. 60% of the fight gone.
Up until this point 60% of the fight gone, there's been short snippets of in-the-pocket fighting. 15 seconds (max) of each a few rounds. We are two minutes into the video - But 18 minutes of action has been fought. :thinking:
the whole of rounds 7 in this highlight reel was 5 seconds long.
That's 70% of the fight gone - And exactly as I said, they both loosened up, a little tired and started landing some punches before the finish.
No one in their right mind is going to tell me that a supposed block-buster of a fight for 7 rounds can be boiled down to a few insignificant punches on a 1 minute 30 reel of actual fight time.
As I said, GTFO with that crap. For the vast majority of the fight, not a lot happened. And that is a simple fact. Your embarrassing highlight reel proves nothing other than exactly what I said went down.
1 minute 30 HL reel? Are you fckuing retarded? The vid goes on for a solid three minutes, minus the introductions and slowmos. Find me a HL vid that contains non-stop action for a significantly longer period than that. Aside from Monshipour vs Sithchatchawal, and random bum fights where neither guy knows how to pace themselves, you'd have a hard time coming up with any fight where the pertinent action exceeds a fraction of the actual in-ring combat.
You'd certainly never be able to find a cagey fight over more than six rounds where the action exceed ten percent of the HL reel combat. That's what you're painting the fight as so prove it. Otherwise, STFU.
Firstly, I already stated I didn't say it was a war. I said it was a competitive matchup with a relatively large amount of action. Secondly, even though I did so, I don't need to point out what happened in the fight since the HL vid clearly did it for me. If you can't see the amount of in-fighting, bodywork and grinding that took place in that fight then I can only conclude that you're either blind or stupid.
Here's the vid again. Tell me where Takam isn't engaging with Povetkin or trying to take the fight to him, since according to you he did neither of these things.
Notice that the first highlight came in late round 3. That's 30% of the fight gone by the time the first highlight came. What was the highlight, Takam shooting a jab, Povetkin coming in with ineffective punches.
Next highlight - End of round 4. Exactly the same with Takam behind the shoulderroll. After they stand in the pocket for 15 seconds landing nothing solid. 40% of the fight gone.
Next highlight - Standing in the middle of the ring during round 5, throwing solid shots for 15 seconds. No one lands anything significant, Povetkin the agressor, takam shows good defense. End of round 5 we see some good action for the first time. 50% of the fight gone.
Next highlight - Middle of round 6. Takam behind the shoulderroll looking for a counter, Povetkin swinging and missing. Then some ok action for some 15 seconds. 60% of the fight gone.
Up until this point 60% of the fight gone, there's been short snippets of in-the-pocket fighting. 15 seconds (max) of each a few rounds. We are two minutes into the video - But 18 minutes of action has been fought. :thinking:
the whole of rounds 7 in this highlight reel was 5 seconds long.
That's 70% of the fight gone - And exactly as I said, they both loosened up, a little tired and started landing some punches before the finish.
No one in their right mind is going to tell me that a supposed block-buster of a fight for 7 rounds can be boiled down to a few insignificant punches on a 1 minute 30 reel of actual fight time.
As I said, GTFO with that crap. For the vast majority of the fight, not a lot happened. And that is a simple fact. Your embarrassing highlight reel proves nothing other than exactly what I said went down.
My posts are reptitive? :lol1: I'm the only one who broke down what happened in the fight. Haha.
All of the rest of you bums are going: "duh it was a war. herb de durp" But no one has pointed out where this war took place.
So yeah, until then. I'm waiting.
Firstly, I already stated I didn't say it was a war. I said it was a competitive matchup with a relatively large amount of action. Secondly, even though I did so, I don't need to point out what happened in the fight since the HL vid clearly did it for me. If you can't see the amount of in-fighting, bodywork and grinding that took place in that fight then I can only conclude that you're either blind or stupid.
Here's the vid again. Tell me where Takam isn't engaging with Povetkin or trying to take the fight to him, since according to you he did neither of these things.
In other words, you're conceding the argument because you haven't got a leg to stand on.
When literally no one in your own thread agrees with you you know you've made a shit point. Your own posts are repetitive as hell and speak of a poster with no true debating ability. You've been thoroughly outclassed and put down for the count. Your protestations make the faintest noise and fall on uniformly deaf ears.
My posts are reptitive? :lol1: I'm the only one who broke down what happened in the fight. Haha.
All of the rest of you bums are going: "duh it was a war. herb de durp" But no one has pointed out where this war took place.
So yeah, until then. I'm waiting.
You would like to lick me wouldn't you? :lol1:
In your dreams you could school me in anything related to boxing, but there comes a time when I get tired of getting the repetitive answer from some bum.
In other words, you're conceding the argument because you haven't got a leg to stand on.
When literally no one in your own thread agrees with you you know you've made a shit point. Your own posts are repetitive as hell and speak of a poster with no true debating ability. You've been thoroughly outclassed and put down for the count. Your protestations make the faintest noise and fall on uniformly deaf ears.
Not anymore. He's licked.
You would like to lick me wouldn't you? :lol1:
In your dreams you could school me in anything related to boxing, but there comes a time when I get tired of getting the repetitive answer from some bum.
I agree with this, it is not just about who you face but the way you defeat your opponents. Compared to Joseph Parker Hughie Fury has looked decidedly pedestrian thus far.
I'm a big Tyson Fury fan but I just can't get behind Hughie. I certainly can't see him on the same level as AJ or Parker, who both look a cut above in terms of potential if not in resume. Hughie might sneak under the radar and become a world class fighter one day, but it's hard to see him becoming the next dominant champion. He just doesn't seem to have that it factor.
It's still early days though.
hughie fury - he's the most skillful talent I've seen in years. Despite not being a huge puncher, he's the only guy I'm seeing throwing a solid triple jab in circular motion like a holmes or ali used to do.
he's also only 20-21 so he'll get better.
Been trynna tell catz for years, I fux wit him.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=600234
hughie fury - he's the most skillful talent I've seen in years. Despite not being a huge puncher, he's the only guy I'm seeing throwing a solid triple jab in circular motion like a holmes or ali used to do.
he's also only 20-21 so he'll get better.
Yet you couldn't appreciate Klitschko over someone like AJ and Haye and here you are telling us how much you admire a good solid jab poke from a boxer ? Hughie is British, Parker is not, we get it.
Tell me who was your favourite heavyweights during the period 2004-2008 which heavies excited you during that period, were you huge Harrison, Sprott, Skelton and Willaims supporters ?
Fact is there seems to be 3 emerging young HW's. Right now Joshua has to be in the lead as he did beat an undefeated Charles Martin to win the title in impressive fashion.
Hughie Fury and Parker's records are about the same and you could make a case for either guy.
However what I personally don't think is up for debate is that Carlos Takam is CLEARLY the most dangerous opponent any of those 3 have faced and by some margin.
Should Parker beat him and in impressive fashion then I think he has to take the lead in the resume stakes regardless of who holds belts etc.
Takam is definitely head and shoulders above the likes of Whyte, Martin and Rudenko, true. He's also a great measuring stick as we know pretty accurately where he fits into the heavyweight landscape. A win over him, any type of win, (minus robbery of course) lets us know that Parker a top tier heavyweight, since only one other top tier heavyweight has beaten him in recent years, and struggled to do so.
Even if Parker has problems or doesn't look as dominant as he usually does signifies little in regards his standing with those other two guys, though I fear it will be magnified or used to unfairly criticise him if that occurs.