First time poster here but I've followed Hayes career and looking at the current HW roster, if you compare Haye with the leading HW fighters, is there anyone better, in terms of actual overall boxing ability?
Haye has good head movement, confidence, huge punching power, hes accurate and has speed.
Is this enough to defeat taller fighters who will use their reach and movement to keep him on the outside?
Or do you believe Haye is overrated and out of his depth at HW level?
Personalty I'm looking forward to watching Haye in a big fight, for a championship belt, as I believe many are overlooking Haye, based on his previous stint in the HW division, the smack talking and believing he is just after a payday (which he may be) but the guy is a talented boxer and surely we're going to see Haye v Joshua this year. With Haye more then capable of knocking Joshua out and derailing the AJ hype train.
You could argue that Haye is more powerful than these guys.
Maybe a couple of years ago,, I'm not sure about now.. Not saying you're wrong, just not really sure how Haye is after all these years of inactivity and tuneup opponents
Then you should know better. .
Surely it means the opposite? as I'm focusing on his actual ability, while reading some of the replies, its clear most fans respect his ability, but they doubt Haye based on other events, which is understandable, yet when Haye steps into the ring, considering he has learnt from his mistakes and has the ability to match his confidence, that makes him a real threat to any fighter in the division.
With that said, Haye clearly has to prove himself to many fans, but just looking around the division, who is better then Haye? you can argue a legitimate case for Haye against any fighter, while Haye is ready to face both Joshua/Fury, yet is Fury going to man up and put aside his dislike for Haye and silence Haye with his fists?
That is what fans want to see, Haye/Joshua/Fury face each other, not produce excuses on why the fight won't happen.
Haye is very good but Wlad easily beat him and he has been KOed before so he is hardly invincible. I see him losing to Ortiz, Fury and Joshua and Haye against Wilder is an even fight in my opinion. Haye is very inactive and he isn't getting any younger. Haye is one of the better heavyweights but he isn't the best in my opinion.
I've followed Hayes career
Then you should know better. Haye was decent but somewhat unproven before he faced Wlad. Then, he laid an egg and hasn't fought a decent opponent since. It's been about 7 years since he did anything impressive and his career has been a sad series of excuses in the last several years. Now that he's blown up to the point that he'll surely have no endurance, he's gone down a step in quality. I think Wilder, Povetkin, and Ortiz wreck him. Even mentally broken Wlad probably still beats him. I don't have a lot of faith in Fury but I'd take him to beat Haye. Joshua would be a good fight for Haye, mostly because Joshua is unproven and it would be a good barometer to see where he's at.
If landed, his right overhand is a serious threat to any fighter in the HW division, especially if they're tall. Luckily for Haye, top heavies are all tall.
The only fighter I'd comfortably pick to beat Haye is Luis Ortiz, maybe Povetkin too.
He's definitely dangerous, which is a shame because he's everything a fighter shouldn't be.
My mouth is salivating just thinking about Haye vs Povetkin.. would pay a good amount of money to see that one.
First time poster here but I've followed Hayes career and looking at the current HW roster, if you compare Haye with the leading HW fighters, is there anyone better, in terms of actual overall boxing ability?
Haye has good head movement, confidence, huge punching power, hes accurate and has speed.
Is this enough to defeat taller fighters who will use their reach and movement to keep him on the outside?
Or do you believe Haye is overrated and out of his depth at HW level?
Personalty I'm looking forward to watching Haye in a big fight, for a championship belt, as I believe many are overlooking Haye, based on his previous stint in the HW division, the smack talking and believing he is just after a payday (which he may be) but the guy is a talented boxer and surely we're going to see Haye v Joshua this year. With Haye more then capable of knocking Joshua out and derailing the AJ hype train.
If you want to have an idea of the future events then look to past events. Who did haye face in the hw division & how did he fight?
He's b level, probably best at that level but when facing an "a" fighter or someone who has the physical advantages he avoids risk
He's way over rated..that said it'd be a good match up with aj. Haye would either get ko'd or flatten stiff aj
Fury schools him, if he was humbled by wlad then fury will take his soul & ruin him
I don't know how much a 2016 version of Haye has left after being away for a few years.
If he is anywhere close to his best then he is a threat. His power is no joke, plus once he has you hurt, he won't let you off the hook. He's also quite to catch clean, he has some good head movement.
The bad thing for Haye is that he is very small compared the the modern heavyweight as we saw in the Wlad fight. But then i don't think any of the current HW's know how to use their size to control distance against a smaller man as good as Wlad could back then, except Fury maybe. Maybe 20-25 years ago, a cruiserweight that went up to heavyweight wasn't as big a leap because the average heavyweight was smaller. Now your usual top heavyweights are 6'5 or 6'6+ and weighing 240lbs or whatever.
Haye hasn't proven anything of note for years, if he ever did at all at Heavyweight. Clearly he is very skilled, athletic, and has great power but he's all talk no action. He is the quintessential cash grabbing spineless type who is just trying to line his pockets and pick up fame. The way he lost and went out after that Wlad fight and the build up it put forth showed me Haye is not the real deal. He had no shame coming out of that fight or game plan to reestablish his presence. He's also had every opportunity there is in the heavyweight division given to him on a golden platter but he never really took it. Always backs out. I will say I don't think Vitaly ever gave him a shot. Other then that, he just let his career fizzle into oblivion. At this point he's on the wrong side of 30, coming off some embarrassing back outs on fights, rotator cuff tear if we are to believe it, and a lot of inactivity. I say Wilder is a toss up but would probably side with Haye on experience alone, Povetkin would probably take him down, Joshua another toss up I think Haye just has a lot more experience to run away with a fight like that, Fury I'd have to side with Haye but not by much, Luis Ortiz destroys Haye
Wilder and Joshua are the most dangerous, as both possess legit one punch ko power..
Skills, chins, stamina, etc might not be the best, but their power is the ultimate equalizer
You could argue that Haye is more powerful than these guys.
Wilder and Joshua are the most dangerous, as both possess legit one punch ko power..
Skills, chins, stamina, etc might not be the best, but their power is the ultimate equalizer
If landed, his right overhand is a serious threat to any fighter in the HW division, especially if they're tall. Luckily for Haye, top heavies are all tall.
The only fighter I'd comfortably pick to beat Haye is Luis Ortiz, maybe Povetkin too.
He's definitely dangerous, which is a shame because he's everything a fighter shouldn't be.
First time poster here but I've followed Hayes career and looking at the current HW roster, if you compare Haye with the leading HW fighters, is there anyone better, in terms of actual overall boxing ability?
Haye has good head movement, confidence, huge punching power, hes accurate and has speed.
Is this enough to defeat taller fighters who will use their reach and movement to keep him on the outside?
Or do you believe Haye is overrated and out of his depth at HW level?
Personalty I'm looking forward to watching Haye in a big fight, for a championship belt, as I believe many are overlooking Haye, based on his previous stint in the HW division, the smack talking and believing he is just after a payday (which he may be) but the guy is a talented boxer and surely we're going to see Haye v Joshua this year. With Haye more then capable of knocking Joshua out and derail the hype train.
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