Charles Martin deserves respect

People expect Martin to think "I'm nothing, man, I can't beat anyone, I might as well go and get beat up so I can get my payment". Which is, IMO, retarded. He is a fighter, he took up boxing because he believed in himself, but you people talk like he got confidence issues...

If all goes well Martin should expose Joshua and set up a fight with Fury. Martin just isn't good enough. Too amateurish.

I was more replying to the post you were agreeing with :theyareon LOL fair enough.

What's your point? It's prize fighting. I don't see how anything you just said here refutes my post, lol. All I did was point out reasons to like the guy. I didn't even mention any other fighters, so who "those guys" might be I don't know, but I have no beef with them, lol. I was more replying to the post you were agreeing with :theyareon

lol. you guy's are completely missing the point any of those guy's would go to the uk in a heartbeat for 7-8 million dollars. It's got absolutely nothing to do with heart or courage and everything to do with cashing out. It doesn't take Einstein to figure out they could make more money in this fight than they could in his entire career. He would of never been able to 'hold the belt hostage' because he would of got sparked out by a complete nobody even if he chose to fight bum's. What's your point? It's prize fighting. I don't see how anything you just said here refutes my post, lol. All I did was point out reasons to like the guy. I didn't even mention any other fighters, so who "those guys" might be I don't know, but I have no beef with them, lol.

Good post. I agree completely. The guy isn't the best, and he was basically gifted the belt, but it's not his fault the other guy got injured, nor is it his fault he was fighting for a belt that should have never left Fury's hands either. I like Martin, and am rooting for the guy, and you are absolutely right, fighters like this are good for boxing. lol. you guy's are completely missing the point any of those guy's would go to the uk in a heartbeat for 7-8 million dollars. It's got absolutely nothing to do with heart or courage and everything to do with cashing out. It doesn't take Einstein to figure out they could make more money in this fight than they could in his entire career. He would of never been able to 'hold the belt hostage' because he would of got sparked out by a complete nobody even if he chose to fight bum's.

he's trying to cash out right away before drifting back into obscurity respect for not hanging around too long, Mr. Martin.... Exactly...he took the best payday available to him. Joshua in england=$$$. What marketability does he have to sit on his title and fight nobodies? He would risk losing it without making any real money.

Charles Martin just won a belt. He could milk it by fighting weak opposition, but instead, he does something else. He doesn't think about money, but about proving himself. Not only is his first challenge Anthony Joshua, an undefeated knockout machine who I consider the future of the heavyweight definition until proven otherwise, but he is even fighting him in his home country, which a lot of champs, like Ward, didn't have the balls to do (I'm not hating on Ward here, I consider him the P4P #1, but that doesn't mean his behaviour is always as good as his skills). Charles Martin is doing the sport a big favour that he wasn't forced to do and I think he deserves a lot of respect for that. He has shown that he has the heart of a champion and if more fighters did like him, boxing would be so much better than it is now. Good post. I agree completely. The guy isn't the best, and he was basically gifted the belt, but it's not his fault the other guy got injured, nor is it his fault he was fighting for a belt that should have never left Fury's hands either. I like Martin, and am rooting for the guy, and you are absolutely right, fighters like this are good for boxing.

I think he has at least a couple more great albums in him.

Do you rate Martin higher than a gold medal prospect? I joke about Martin being the GOAT but in my opinion he's a prospect too. We really don't know how good he is or if he's any good at all. I reckon Martin is a challenger. If AJ wins, he steps above the prospect rank.

so is every one who holds a trinket when their is a lineal or unified champion. yeah I know and I have never stated otherwise, although context is important. For example, in my eyes, with recent wins, Kov is superior to Stev, even though the latter is lineal champ. Or going farther back, Briggs was never truly the man, as any sane individual would put Lennox or Holy before him.

nothing happened in the glazkov fight before his knee shattered so put it this way if charles martin before the glazkov fight was fighting a guy like breazale would he even be even money? maybe? at best? what about a guy like duhapaus or spilzka? even money at best? now how much would he make for those fights? 100k? 200k? he's fighting for the money lebowski!

you know what charles martin deserves big respect for this fight and money just comes as part of the territory just watch if AJ was to win, you watch eddie hearn milk it and make him fight all those bums that the IBF puts up as mandatories exactly like how kell brook has been doing since he won the IBF title... say what you want about martin but hes going all out and deserves respect... on the flip side of that if and when martin knocks out AJ, i wonder how keen other heavyweights will be to fight him lol

Martin should be praised for fighting AJ for his first defense of his title. We've seen many a lesser fighter win a title and then 'milk' it for years against soft opposition. Charles Martin is taking a huge risk and going all in for this fight and maybe this gamble will pay off big for him. Just because other fighters do worse, it doesn't mean we should start praising fighters for doing what they suppouse to do. The main reason Martin is fighting AJ is money. Sure the Brit is a good, hyped prospect but also one of the biggest paydays in HW division, and this why Martin chose him, not glory or whatever. If he was fighting, let's say, Parker, then I would give Martin props for 'courage'. Not really hating on Charles, I just think people should calm down with their ohs and ahs.

How this fact is lost on some people is beyond me. This is one of the biggest, most obvious money grabs in recent history and yet people are giving Martin props for 'courage' etc :lol1: Martin should be praised for fighting AJ for his first defense of his title. We've seen many a lesser fighter win a title and then 'milk' it for years against soft opposition. Charles Martin is taking a huge risk and going all in for this fight and maybe this gamble will pay off big for him.

He's made a few good albums as the front man for Coldplay that would be chris martin

Respect? for cashing out ? It's a clever move by his team, wilder's team like martin's know he's a big KO waiting to happen, hence why haymon desperately tried ducking sasha and fighting martin, when that didnt work, he tried to get martin to fight sasha :lol1: Martin will have his retirement money and joshua will take the belt, I will only give him respect if he get's off the canvas and show's the heart that Whyte showed. Doubt it though. He'll musta a lil effort in the first round or two and once he get's hit flush, that will be it. Hope im wrong and it's a barnburner, can't see it though unfortunately. When they are collecting check's they never put up too much of an effort.

Credit for waiting in the UK. No credit for fighting AJ who is a prospect. Martin barely won the title. In reality he is only a contender. so is every one who holds a trinket when their is a lineal or unified champion.

I'll respect him if he beats Joshua or pushes him hard. Champions should take on the best challengers around. They don't get any extra brownie points for doing their job.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshuas-world-title-challenge-7676883 Sunday Mirror Sport understands challenger, Joshua, 26, will pick up around £8m if he wins after negotiating a share of pay-per-view sales, with nearly a million expected by broadcaster Sky Sports. A victory over Martin, who will himself earn around £6m for making his first defence of his title in the UK, is likely to see Joshua make two more defences this year.