We then switched to the topic of Gennady Golovkin. One of the most avoided fighters in the sport would love to setup a fight with Canelo Alvarez in September, but many people do nothing think the fight will happen this year. I asked Tom if no Canelo fight when will we see GGG back in the ring and who would be his opponent? Loeffler said that determining when Golovkin will comeback will all depend on how he comes out of this fight. Regarding an opponent, Tom said:
“Billy Joe Saunders has said he’s willing to fight Gennady, so that would be the 1st choice if the Canelo fight doesn’t happen. We’re going to pursue everything to make the Canelo fight happen to get the WBC title and then, once that situation is solved, go after Saunders to see if there is a way to make that fight happen. Gilberto Ramirez, if he beats Abraham, Bob has said he would fight Gennady, so that would be a great matchup. Danny Jacobs has a nice win over Quillin so that would be a great matchup. I think there are so good options out there for Gennady, but obviously Canelo is the #1 option.”
I asked him about the rumors of fighting Kell Brook. Loeffler said, “Eddie contacted me about that fight and clearly Kell is a great fighter. We have a lot of respect for him. If there is a way to figure out the weight difference, then I think that’s would be something to look at, but there haven’t been any serious discussions about a Kell Brook fight. I could see a James DeGale fight being done easier than a Kell Brook fight, but you never know, I wouldn’t rule any of those out. The bottom line is whoever, is willing to get in the ring with Gennady, they become the #1 choice because that becomes the most realistic fight.
He called them out on it several times. He said he's happy to talk, but no word from these guys. It's worth a try, right, nothing to lose. If no interest, go the mando route. If you want the fight, that is.
Oh OK I see. But to be honest I'd rather gg face Gilberto or Degale instead of Lara
Tom already said he doesn't have any interest in Lara. Why would they contact him
He called them out on it several times. He said he's happy to talk, but no word from these guys. It's worth a try, right, nothing to lose. If no interest, go the mando route. If you want the fight, that is.
There's several ways Lara can make it happen, if he really wants to (doubtful)
1. Get himself an IBF mando spot. Should be really easy, heck he could have fought Wade instead of Zaveck
2. Even easier, contact Gggs team to try to make it happen. They haven't even done this much, which tells you all you need to know about their level of interest
And again, it's not about Gggs bank account, it's whether the fight purses can be covered.
Tom already said he doesn't have any interest in Lara. Why would they contact him
Just like Saunders stated he wanted to fight GGG a day after GGG signed on to fight Wade. Just like Saunders said he wanted to fight GGG as soon as Saunders fight was announced. He's using GGG's name to hype himself. Everybody tune in to watch the gut that GGG is going to fight. Saunders-Eubank II is a bigger fight than Saunders-GGG. And Saunders would make more money fighting Eubank. Saunders is selling wolf tickets
Maybe, maybe not but he has moved on from saying "I don't want to fight GGG" to saying "I will fight him soon". It's a difference. Might just be superficial or he might actually mean it. Saunders seems like a fighting man, which is why his statement last year got me so pissed.
Maybe he's decided he wants to live up to his fighting spirit. We will soon find out.
There's several ways Lara can make it happen, if he really wants to (doubtful)
1. Get himself an IBF mando spot. Should be really easy, heck he could have fought Wade instead of Zaveck
2. Even easier, contact Gggs team to try to make it happen. They haven't even done this much, which tells you all you need to know about their level of interest
And again, it's not about Gggs bank account, it's whether the fight purses can be covered.
Logic and reason won't convince most of the critics here. Lara could also become a WBA mandatory if he beats Jacobs. Don't see them trying for that fight either. All tweet no action.
Lara may be a no hoper, but he's number 1 at 154 and willing to fight GGG at 160. He's better than Monroe and Wade. I'm tired of thinking about what's best for GGG's bank account and what's best for his career/legacy.
There's several ways Lara can make it happen, if he really wants to (doubtful)
1. Get himself an IBF mando spot. Should be really easy, heck he could have fought Wade instead of Zaveck
2. Even easier, contact Gggs team to try to make it happen. They haven't even done this much, which tells you all you need to know about their level of interest
And again, it's not about Gggs bank account, it's whether the fight purses can be covered.
I think Lara is a no hoper vs Ggg. Zero chance of winning. But it's not what I want, HBO is not paying 2m to the guy that's #1 on their anti Gatti list to come run around a bit then lay down
Lara may be a no hoper, but he's number 1 at 154 and willing to fight GGG at 160. He's better than Monroe and Wade. I'm tired of thinking about what's best for GGG's bank account and what's best for his career/legacy.
As a fan, you're just ok with this? You're ok with GGG not fighting the best out there because of his bank account?
I think Lara is a no hoper vs Ggg. Zero chance of winning. But it's not what I want, HBO is not paying 2m to the guy that's #1 on their anti Gatti list to come run around a bit then lay down
Cause you refuse to use you brain, that's why. Both guys bring nothing, but one will fight for 100k, other will want 20x as much.
Ward Ggg is not a successful Ppv. If Ggg can sell that, then he could sell Degale. But they talked about fighting him in the UK, which is a whole different story
As a fan, you're just ok with this? You're ok with GGG not fighting the best out there because of his bank account?
No but that's not my problem. My problem is the constant lying from GGG's team that people just accept. Obvious Haymon, Showtime and the weight aren't issues with Lara or Ward. Idk why they would rather fight Willie Monroe over Lara, but it seems they are just deadly afraid of Ward.
And I don't want to hear anything about money. Ward vs GGG is a ppv fight while DeGale isn't.
Cause you refuse to use you brain, that's why. Both guys bring nothing, but one will fight for 100k, other will want 20x as much.
Ward Ggg is not a successful Ppv. If Ggg can sell that, then he could sell Degale. But they talked about fighting him in the UK, which is a whole different story
... he has to come with money from home in order to get fights... Good business...
Everyone else has taken paycuts before (Kov,Canelo) but gg is a superstar right. And he's said himself all he cares about is unifying 160.
I wonder if gg would take a pay cut to fight Saunders. Just give him the lionshare to make the unification happen
... he has to come with money from home in order to get fights... Good business...
Do you believe that Lara is a harder fight than DeGale?
No but that's not my problem. My problem is the constant lying from GGG's team that people just accept. Obvious Haymon, Showtime and the weight aren't issues with Lara or Ward. Idk why they would rather fight Willie Monroe over Lara, but it seems they are just deadly afraid of Ward.
And I don't want to hear anything about money. Ward vs GGG is a ppv fight while DeGale isn't.
Don't be confused. It's a straight up duck. They claim they only wanna move up for the big money fights but Ward-GGG is the only PPV fight out of the fighters he named. Ward sells more tickets than DeGale and Ramierz combined.
If the WBC was his top priority he would've gotten the belt last year. Money is their #1 priority. GGG is the ultimate risk v. reward fighter.
How many times does Saunders have to say he's not interested before people start believing him?
It's both duh. Best case scenario is get Canelo in the Ring and take his belt. 6 months ago who would have expected that Canelo would humiliate himself so bad just to duck his mando. We were told he was born ready
Don't be confused. It's a straight up duck. They claim they only wanna move up for the big money fights but Ward-GGG is the only PPV fight out of the fighters he named. Ward sells more tickets than DeGale and Ramierz combined.
If the WBC was his top priority he would've gotten the belt last year. Money is their #1 priority. GGG is the ultimate risk v. reward fighter.
How many times does Saunders have to say he's not interested before people start believing him?
You're still stuck in 2015. Currently, Saunders has openly stated he wants the GGG fight, preferably in the summer.
Makes sense. My personal order of preference would be:
Degale
Canelo
Saunders
Jacobs
Zurdo
But I can understand Degale being bumped down below the MW titlists - especially Nelo - whilst the possibility remains for those fights to be made. Also I'd bump Zurdo up my list if he puts on a really good showing against AA, for now IMO he's still a bit unproven despite passing the eye test pretty well.
I'd prefer a unification at 168, between the winner of the two fights between DeGale/whoever and Bute/Jack. In the meantime, if no Canelo, GGG should look to unify v Saunders.
then the two unified champs, in two divisions, can fight each other.
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