Carl "The Jackal" Frampton vs. "El Terremoto" Leo Santa Cruz & Undercards RbR

Looking forward to teh rematch!!! Aww yeah!!!

BTW, anyone who wants to work out who's lying in the poll and picking afterwards, here's a screenshot from just after the fight ended. https://s32.postimg.org/3odj32mz9/scrsht.jpg Interesting. Thanks. Always nice to know who the fraudsters are.

Oh look just as I thought even the Showtime director couldnt match Framptons clean punches vs. Santa Cruz clean shots in this HL -- no wonder no one took up my challenge...when you watch in HD in slow motion it obvious this was a robbery. Now some people accused me of being bias and somehow doctoring my clips however these idiots dont even know Im the gif man around these parts and always watch fights in HD slowmo so its not like I went out of my way to discover this deceit perpetuated by the commentators...and blind unqualified maybe even crooked judges. I don't know have time to deal with you right now because I am going out with the guys for a few beers. I will deal with you in due course, and it won't be pretty.

Oh look just as I thought even the Showtime director couldnt match Framptons clean punches vs. Santa Cruz clean shots in this HL -- no wonder no one took up my challenge...when you watch in HD in slow motion it obvious this was a robbery. Now some people accused me of being bias and somehow doctoring my clips however these idiots dont even know Im the gif man around these parts and always watch fights in HD slowmo so its not like I went out of my way to discover this deceit perpetuated by the commentators...and blind unqualified maybe even crooked judges.

Mexicans are in denial about this fight. LSC's dad thinks his son didnt lose & nor did Danny Garcia! Salty ****ers.. Show some humility & sportsmanship classless ****ers.

Huge win & stamp of approval for Carl if he can manage it. McGuigans have been pushing for this fight for a couple of years so they obviously see something in Cruz that they think they can exploit! LSC has a significant reach advantage & relentless work rate, he's also a slight favourite. However I am picking Frampton to do the job! Big ask though.. I think some folks are sleeping on Frampton. He could put on a DISPLAY here! Great win if he can manage it. One of the best in boxing. LSC is a stud. Boom.......

BTW, anyone who wants to work out who's lying in the poll and picking afterwards, here's a screenshot from just after the fight ended. https://s32.postimg.org/3odj32mz9/scrsht.jpg

BTW, anyone who wants to work out who's lying in the poll and picking afterwards, here's a screenshot from just after the fight ended. https://s32.postimg.org/3odj32mz9/scrsht.jpg

"Second thread I posted the evidence nobody replied -- it only takes 3 minutes of less to review the gifs. Santa Cruz beat him in Jabs and Power punches...you are right the commentating influenced a lot of these brainwashed sheep...that mark Maoro was expressing contempt that Santa Cruz was getting some credit by Bernstein and Paulie ; all you heard was Frampton! Frampton! oh Wow! Frampton! they should fire him and old man Bernstein they suck." Your GIF is complete BS. It's obviously from a bias source and doesn't incorporate many of the exchanges. Frampton won fair and square, your 5th grade GIF doesn;t prove ****tt.

P.S. unless you have a really fast internet, most of those videos don't play all that well or not consistently anyway, so that could be another reason why no one really replied. So you didnt review the clips from round one through eight in slow motion and your on dial-up - got it.

Second thread I posted the evidence nobody replied -- it only takes 3 minutes of less to review the gifs. Santa Cruz beat him in Jabs and Power punches...you are right the commentating influenced a lot of these brainwashed sheep...that mark Maoro was expressing contempt that Santa Cruz was getting some credit by Bernstein and Paulie ; all you heard was Frampton! Frampton! oh Wow! Frampton! they should fire him and old man Bernstein they suck. P.S. unless you have a really fast internet, most of those videos don't play all that well or not consistently anyway, so that could be another reason why no one really replied.

Second thread I posted the evidence nobody replied -- it only takes 3 minutes of less to review the gifs. Santa Cruz beat him in Jabs and Power punches...you are right the commentating influenced a lot of these brainwashed sheep...that mark Maoro was expressing contempt that Santa Cruz was getting some credit by Bernstein and Paulie ; all you heard was Frampton! Frampton! oh Wow! Frampton! they should fire him and old man Bernstein they suck. No one replied because a few gifs don't really tell the story. Especially when I have the fight recorded in HD. The second reason why no one replied is because it was mostly debated over Sunday and now everyone is over it because it really wasn't that controversial a decision it was just a close fight where neither guy's stock dropped that much. I have watched the fight 3 times start to finish, and a few rounds at a time whilst I was eating something in my living room to pass the time, thought Frampton won 7-5, but I can see 6-6, and you can make a case for 7-5 for Santa Cruz too. I think you can honestly make a case for anything between 8-4 Frampton and 7-5 Santa Cruz. One flaw I have seen with a lot people who score fights is not taking into consideration the impact of the punches, I am not saying this applies to you, but on TV its harder to tell, whereas in the arena you can really feel it, and hear the impact, and it makes a difference, and judges will definitely consider it. I know this because I have been to fights and then watched them at home after and it is different. Frampton was definitely the puncher in this fight, and when you consider the connects were pretty even in most rounds than it will definitely be the deciding factor in a lot of those rounds, there is a video on youtube with some footage from inside the arena, and you can really hear the impact of Frampton's punches landing. He was really accurate with the right hand (head and body), and the check left hook. Santa Cruz throws lots of straight punches, and some of these were snapping the head back of Frampton but otherwise his punches seemed to have a lot less mustard on them. The other thing which was obvious in the fight is that Frampton chose to fight in some rounds, he wasn't forced to fight, he met Santa Cruz in the middle of the ring and he was never deterred by any of Santa Cruz's punches or combinations, I think Frampton lost most of those fighting rounds, but they were all competitive and important to setting a marker down. There were also rounds where Frampton soundly outboxed Santa Cruz and won them easily, for example rounds 3, 5, and 9. I think those types of rounds definitely effect a judges perception because he shut Santa Cruz down in those rounds and showed the judges another level. I don't really wish to get in a debate about it, but I think the majority of people think Frampton won, because that is their opinion including the broadcast team on Showtime. The UK broadcast team on Boxnation for example had it a draw, but most of the British papers in the morning, and websites had Frampton winning so they weren't really influenced by anything, in fact I would say the most common score that I saw everywhere was 7-5 Frampton, these things are all subjective of course and I respect your opinion, but I think most people just don't want to get into a long drawn out debate not because they can't prove it, but because they don't care that much.

Good s**t, :boxing:. Second thread I posted the evidence nobody replied -- it only takes 3 minutes of less to review the gifs. Santa Cruz beat him in Jabs and Power punches...you are right the commentating influenced a lot of these brainwashed sheep...that mark Maoro was expressing contempt that Santa Cruz was getting some credit by Bernstein and Paulie ; all you heard was Frampton! Frampton! oh Wow! Frampton! they should fire him and old man Bernstein they suck.

Overall card looks to have hit about 480k viewers on Saturday night. Kind of weird though, the main event looks to be about 299k.

I was rooting for Frampton but I thought he would be too small and get overwhelmed and beaten by LSC by the end in this match up. I have Frampton winning it. He outworked him. He got caught a couple of times but he boxed beautifully.

i will win the fight................... :p

HL - Album : Robbery. Eleven Images here : I left out the jabs because Santa Cruz had outlanded Fraudton 2-1 so I decided to really see if he outlanded him in power punches and NO thats false.

I am one of the bigger Santa Cruz fans on NSB. I picked him to win. I thought he clearly lost but I questioned the judge that gave it to Frampton 9-3. I thought Frampton won 7-5. Great display of boxing and excellent spacing/footwork by Frampton. Fought smarter and more determined then my boy Leo. I haven't read this thread so I hope we don't have the usual clowns whining about running. Santa Cruz did a lot of work but he just wasn't landing enough. He couldn't defend himself. This is the same problem he has had in previous fights but the guys were such light hitters it didn't bother him. He needs to go back and reassess. Obviously Frampton has other opponents he can make money with and earned the right to do so. My guess is he gets Selby or Quigg rematch next, unless haymon forces him to fight Russell. My boy Leo can get back in the mix if he steps up to fight Rigondeaux, which he probably won't. Frampton really stepped up and should be on the top 10 p4p list IMO. Leader for FOTY IMO. Also great to see Mikey Garcia back as I am a big fan of his as well.

I am one of the bigger Santa Cruz fans on NSB. I picked him to win. I thought he clearly lost but I questioned the judge that gave it to Frampton 9-3. I thought Frampton won 7-5. Great display of boxing and excellent spacing/footwork by Frampton. Fought smarter and more determined then my boy Leo. I haven't read this thread so I hope we don't have the usual clowns whining about running. Santa Cruz did a lot of work but he just wasn't landing enough. He couldn't defend himself. This is the same problem he has had in previous fights but the guys were such light hitters it didn't bother him. He needs to go back and reassess. Obviously Frampton has other opponents he can make money with and earned the right to do so. My guess is he gets Selby or Quigg rematch next, unless haymon forces him to fight Russell. My boy Leo can get back in the mix if he steps up to fight Rigondeaux, which he probably won't. Frampton really stepped up and should be on the top 10 p4p list IMO. Leader for FOTY IMO. Also great to see Mikey Garcia back as I am a big fan of his as well.

God, Mauro Ranallo's yelling, combined with the Frampton fans' singing...had to turn the volume down.